Does anyone know where I can buy a Peter Lynn best folding buggy?
If you do you will be smarter than google, and if you'll tell me I'll mention you in my prayers.

Amazon listing is a dead end.

I need new or perfect, not a beat up buggy, I'll do that myself.
Folding is because I live in a third floor walk up. This puppy has to go downstairs on Friday and back upstairs on Sunday.

Is the markup so poor on Mr Lynn's product line that no one keep a stock of his stuff in the states?

Maybe get lucky here: http://www.extremekiteshop.com/kites/peter-lynn-folding-bugg...

if i lived in an apmnt id get a reg PL bug and take the axle on and off...its fast, easy and safer to walk the stairs
but thats just me

^^what he said. They are discontinued so finding one new would be old stock. A regular buggy would not be difficult. I carry mine inside just for fun sometimes.

Thanks gentlemen,
I did my measuring and found a 1m x 50 x50 cm spot on my little balcony to put a buggy. Folded.

I can't have it in the living room, so I can't have a buggy.
Did not know the folding buggy was discontinued, seemed like such a good solution.

Then later when I am properly addicted, I would not care what had to go to make room for the new one! At least that's been my single line experience. Bedroom full, closet full, 6 or 8 foils on the vanity table and under it. All the space under my clothes full and an old guy shopping cart for a kite hospital full.

Again thanks for the new data concerning this discontinued buggy, it's back to sliding on my butt, so far the Colt 90 is just wearing out my knee pads. Thought the buggy would offer a bit of grace to my aged frame.

Keep in mind the advantage in the PL 'Folder' is packing in a car.


The weight you'll be carrying up the stairs will be about the same.

You'll just need to be a little more careful carrying it up(hold it vertically).

Also...unlike the folder.. the older PL comp axle pops off and you can make two lighter weight trips if you want.

As the other gents have done before me, you will hear a repeating theme from me. Please consider looking for and purchasing a standard PL buggy as compared to one of their folding models. My first buggy was a folding model, and while it was functional I promptly sold it for a non-folding model and never looked back. While the folding model is sort of a cool design (akin to origami) in practical terms it takes longer to fold it than it does to unstrap the straps behind the seat (two squeezes of some backpack hip belt like clasps) give the unit a shake and off comes the back axle. Trust me, it is far easier to hold the axle in one hand and the seat and front wheel in the other (or make two trips as mentioned before) than it is to carry the massive single piece or metal, fabric, and tire origami. Also, the non-folder rides much better. All in all just a better rig IMHO.

As for your balcony, the split apart buggy will take up less square footage of your balcony than the origami project. You could put one rear wheel on the ground with the rear axle vertical and the other rear wheel up at face height and lean the seat and front end up against it.

There's a good reason they discontinued the folding model......

Okay guys I get it. Now that I have emails out looking for a folder it turns out I don't need a folder.
So which one do I need ? It will need to be in production and available to buy new and get parts bearings wheels and things I will damage through inexperience.
I did mention Availible.
An older Comp is not much help unless there's one for sale. Is Rally a candidate for mostly inland use in fields, maybe a trip to the beach sometime but not regularly. Or which current and available buggy should I buy.
This is the first time I heard anyone question the suitability of an origami buggy, I thought it was just hard to find. Maybe because my need was unpopular or unusual.
I expected to spend less than a thousand, however I would rather stretch my budget than buy a poorly engineered product. Also, if Ever I do meet another kiter in or around Raleigh I would want to have a respectible paracart.

I ran into a guy who was very happy with his Tensor, till he flew my smaller Twister and saw the difference in Wow that comes with a well chosen piece of gear. I need to choose well fellas.

if your smallish like under 180#...5.10"....any flexi or PL will serve you fine maybe forever
the PL axle goes on/off w/out bolts so that would be fastest and easiest...im very happy w/ my comp i beat the snot out of it no pblms
other will say it's cheaply made which i dont get...but to each their own
so...how big a bug do you need? than go buy the 1st used one you find anyway you can always sell it
imo

Ed - didn't intend to bust a dream. It's just that the PL folding buggy just doesn't seem to work out as well as the more standard PL buggies. Personally I'm a fan of the PL BigFoot. The large balloon like tires are quite versatile. One thing to keep in mind is that BF tires don't tear up the grass of town-maintained athletic fields, a handy argument for keeping access when the groundskeepers flag you down and start the process of getting you kicked off. Once at the beach the BF tires will shine. I know folks on PKF are big fans of other types of tires, I believe they are called "midis" but I might be wrong. These are sort of intermediate sized tires, half way between narrow standard tires and BFs.

As others have said, keep you eyes peeled here and on other boards for used ones to hit the FOR SALE threads. Craigs List, eBay (where I bought my PL BF!), all the various forms of classifieds. Good luck!

Midi's are 16-6.5 x 8" ribbed tires.

http://www.buggykiteshop.com/index.php/wheel-spares/tire/mid...

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Midi's are 16-6.5 x 8" ribbed tires. http://www.buggykiteshop.com/index.php/wheel-spares/tire/mid...

Thanks! I haven't owned them. Those dimensions look like a nice compromise between BF and narrow gauge tires. Any experience on how they do on grass in terms of tearing it up? At least around where I live I seem to be skating a fine thin edge with having access and getting kicked off my fields. The problem I face is that all of the suitable fields around town are managed by the same organization, so for me it's sort of all-or-none which has me quite nervous.

I've actually switched almost exclusively to kite skating on my local fields as one way of preserving access. My wheels of doom skates have knobby inflated tires measuring 200x50mm, and as such are pretty much dimensionally tiny mountain bike wheels. If challenged I plan on creating a position that unless they plan on outlawing (and enforcing) a no bike policy on the fields that it is unfair to single me out when I'm rolling the same tires on the fields. I'm banking on them balking at a full bike ban and forcing their hand that way. That's my strategy and I'm sticking to it!

Nothing makes your day quite like seeing a groundskeeper standing watching you, get on his phone, and then walk away after about 10 minutes. :puzzled:

I here you about storage problems. Before I bought a little 4 x 8 shed for the deck I had exhausted all storage options in my apartment.

My old buggy has straight side rails. I could just separate my down post ( with 1 bolt ) . Pull the wheels and pop off the foot pegs. It all fit under the bed.

Another creative spot I used for my kite board was my balcony ceiling ? What are the odds you can hang your buggy out there?

The geometry of the Folder ( and my little buggy ) is real poor when set up. You end up sitting too far back. Almost between the back wheels. This means you side slide way too early. Don't rule out the Flexifoil? In general I agree what everybody is saying about getting a proper small buggy. Once you get it down assembly and break down can happen real quick. The only draw back I see with this is storing the axle?

Your on the right track by researching your choices on here. You might find differing opinions but everybody wants to help you avoid the mistakes we made. Impulse buying is hard to avoid.

I was absolutely convinced that I needed a folder to fit in my little car and my garage. After trying the fit into my car (thanks Markite) and looking at the size/weight comparison, I went with the "full frame" buggy; I couldn't be happier with the ST+. The rear axel really does slide off easily to stand in a corner, and the remainder of the frame is small and light enough to hide behind most of the other junk in the garage (and they both fit into the back my Mazda3 with a single seat down).
In my mind, the only question you should have is: stainless, or not? If you're planning on hitting the beach, I'd suggest that you opt for the stainless frame rather than powder coated steel.
Good luck!

If necessary, you can undo the frame rail bolt(s) and/or the front fork to downtube bolt and the buggy literally packs down to mere pieces smaller than the folder. This does require tools (adjsutable end wrench) and takes a few more minutes, but is a valid option if you cant locate a folder. One note to keep in mind is that the folding buggy is probably the weakest buggy on the market. Because of the way it needs to be designed so it can fold down, it does not handle near the abuse as the other models.

I have a folder I would consider selling, certainly not pristene though

Thanks for all the help fellows, Chris at ShadeOnMe says he'll hook me up soon, I've taken more than my share of y'alls time.
Special thanks to Mr Bladerunner. My balcony is top floor sheltered and will work with a hook and pulley. Brilliant Sir.
Why did a kite flyer have to be told to look up? Also a sci fi fan, "Watch the skies", I have no excuse. Soon I'll be ready for my first OBE.