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[*] posted on 13-7-2016 at 10:38 AM
USA Libre dealer?


I need to order a 20mm front axle for my Libre. Who is the dealer here in the USA now?
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[*] posted on 13-7-2016 at 11:39 AM


I would find a local company were you can purchase a 20mm piece of all thread. To order the same from libre will cost you about 90 bucks.
I can send you what is needed for a lot less. A small order from Germany is not economically feasible.



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[*] posted on 13-7-2016 at 01:53 PM


That'd be great if you could help me out. I could round up the all thread but then I'd need to figure out the spacers too. I am putting on a set of the aluminum rims and would rather have all 20 mm bearings than convert the front to the smaller bearing to match the current axle.
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[*] posted on 13-7-2016 at 02:43 PM


I ordered a 350mm x 20mm gal bolt and nylock nut for my Vmax bigfoot front fork from my local bolts 'n fasteners place. Took a couple days for it to come into stock and wasn't expensive from memory. Some appropriately sized alloy tube seems to work for my spacers cut to length with a hacksaw.



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[*] posted on 13-7-2016 at 06:21 PM


I agree with John.
I would use 1 nylock on one side of the axle and use a standard nut on the other end. Use a center punch to gaul up the threads on the standard nut side or use thread lock to freeze the nut in place much like the head of a bolt. makes things a bit easier.
as for the spacer material any pipe will work, use something just big enough to slide over the all-thread. The sysmic wheels are a different thickness compared to the PL wheels so those spacers wont work. Because Libre has 4 different forks for the buggy the easiest thing to do is measure the distance between the ears of the fork and subtract the measurement of the wheel(outside to outside of the bearings) and divide by 1/2 for the measurement of the spacers. Add 1 3/4 to 2 inchs to the fork measurement to order your all-thread material. I would not order Stainless all-thread, it will cost more and cause problems as time goes on. Stainless nuts are fine. as for the spacers, I have used everything under the sun, Galvanized is fine.



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[*] posted on 14-7-2016 at 05:21 AM


Well it sounds like I'd better get to the hardware store.

Thanks fellas!
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[*] posted on 14-7-2016 at 07:49 AM


I have an all thread front axle. I like big kid's idea of peening one side to lock the nut in place. I have two thin jam nuts on one side and a regular nylok on the other. No problem tightening or removing this way either.

Landsegler recommends axle spacers to be cut on a lathe so they are perpendicular cuts. I have some that were cut on a machine with a band blade and they seem as true as can be measured. But I wouldn't trust my abilities cutting spacers by hand with a hacksaw. John were you able to keep the cut straight?



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[*] posted on 14-7-2016 at 07:59 AM


You can use a pipe cutter if your not able to make a square cut. A bit of file work to clean up the cut works well also.



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[*] posted on 14-7-2016 at 09:21 AM


Quote: Originally posted by bigkid  
You can use a pipe cutter if your not able to make a square cut. A bit of file work to clean up the cut works well also.


That's a great idea. There are so many ways to not have a good end result with a hack saw, but the tubing cutter should give a perfectly flat edge.



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[*] posted on 14-7-2016 at 10:08 AM


I found the 20mm all thread, two nyloc nuts, some washers and two 3/4" long bronze bushings. I'll start hacking on it tonight and see what else I'll need to do.

I have a carbide cut off saw but I don't think it'll give me "perfect" cuts for the spacers if the 3/4" bushings are too short or long.

Thanks for the input guys!
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[*] posted on 14-7-2016 at 11:45 AM


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[*] posted on 14-7-2016 at 02:54 PM



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John were you able to keep the cut straight?

'straight' is a bit of a relative term with me. Straight-ish would be a good description.....



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