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[*] posted on 16-7-2016 at 03:55 PM
Flexofoil traction extreme bar


Hey guys, well a few of you helped me chose my kites a while ago, and gave me some damn fine advice when one of them kicked my butt, also remember them having a little laugh when I said I didn't want to do any kind of buggying! Well yet again you were right, I now have a Peter Lynn buggy and a flexofoil traction extreme bar, getting a harness soon! Now the buggy is going to stay in the garage until I have mastered the kite completely! I was just wondering if anyone knew how the control bar setup works? The guy I got it off has never used it and I'm not confident it's set up right! Can post pictures if that would help

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[*] posted on 16-7-2016 at 06:09 PM


Flexifoil...jusayin
Yea...bar stays in the garage underneath something
Keep flying on handles w/ the harness and a strop
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[*] posted on 16-7-2016 at 06:27 PM


Agreed with abkayak to a degree... I'd stay on handles until you have REALLY learned the ins and outs of all of the aspects flying the kite. You have a great deal more control with handles than otherwise. I personally would hold off even on flying with a strop on a harness as well. It is always the one of the fastest way to get lofted and badly hurt, to be flying "hooked in" on a strop on a Fixed Bridle kite. It happened to me after many years of experience. Given your experience level, I highly recommend you keep strong arming the kite and wait and gain experience to hook in. justsayin...



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[*] posted on 16-7-2016 at 06:52 PM


The thing with these bars (all the fancy FB bars with chicken loops) is they DO NOT convert a FB kite into a DP kite in terms of safety and control. They actually move you in the other direction, towards a potentially more dangerous and certainly much less controllable situation. All these fancy bars for FB kites, irrespective of brand, really dumb down the action of the FB kites flown on them. I would go so far as to say that "dumb down" is being too kind: it's more like giving the kite a frontal lobotomy.

The gentleman that commented above me have a good deal of experience, and at least with soliver, some not so positive experience as well with ascension from a buggy with hooked-in FB flying. Took him a long time (and considerable expense) to recover from that little adventure. You'd do well to heed their advice. justsayin....



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[*] posted on 17-7-2016 at 09:43 AM


Save the bar for playin with when you're bored and static. Stick to handles I have tried several of my FB's on a bar setup and they all sucked. If you wanna fly on a bar you need to go full on Depower. Not some half assed jury rigged death trap. Against the above advice. Get a harness. And a strop. Go ride your buggy a few times with out it. Enough to get the hang of how the kite and buggy work together. Then start using the harness. I'm still relatively new to buggyin. I've only been at it about a year now. So being still fresh to the learning process. Had I to do it over again. This is how I would do it or how I would teach someone. But DO get your kite skills down first. If you do decide to go the Depower route learn to buggy with an FIxed bridle first. I did it backwards. I started buggyin on DP's first. Then went to FB's. I truly regret doing that. Since I learned to buggy with the FB's my depowers haven't been out of there bags in months.



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[*] posted on 17-7-2016 at 09:44 AM


One more person telling you that the bar is a big step backwards.

That said, You hook the bars outside lines to the front lines and the back lines to the center. It looks like you use that trim strap to set it all up so your brakes are a little loose.

You have essentially taken brake input out of the picture flying like this and have reverted back to 2 line control. With the bar the brakes will only come into play when you go to safety or reverse launch.

I spent a LOT of time and a bit of money trying to make crossover bars for FB. One day I was struggling with Janky wind and the bar. Moved the kite to handles and was able to actually work the kite. I never went back. Actually moved forward to depower. The ONLY way to go with a bar IMHO!



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[*] posted on 17-7-2016 at 06:34 PM


you want a FB on a bar. Turn your handles out end for end...Boom bar! I will say though that if you truly want a fixed bridle on a bar. The only one I have flown that works is a Prism Tensor. But this kite has adjustable AOA and is designed that way. And yet I still prefer it on handles.



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