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OBE's
Since I started buggyin about a year ago. As of yesterday I've been yanked out of the buggy 5 times. The first 3 were by a little 3m Toxic. They were
not fun. I didn't get hurt but I was a little bruised and a lot sore the next day. That was back in February. In April I was yarded out by my 5m
Beamer and again yesterday by my 8m Neo both times. It wasn't scary I didn't get hurt. In fact it was fun! I can't be the only one that has got up
from an Obe and thought "Holy #@%$#! that was awesome!" The one in April working on tacking up wind. Well about as good a Beamer can do. She us really
powering up wind pretty well actually when I suddenly went over a 2-3 foot drop in the sand lost my grip on one of the handles. She shot straight up
and back behind me. Lifted me straight out of the buggy backwards. I landed flat on my back. It was quite exhilarating. Yesterday I was testing out a
new spot. But the sand was too soft. I got stopped in the soft sand. I thought I'd just do a loop and power out. Well...I sure did. Power right out of
the buggy and about 5 feet in the air. Landed on my feet thankfully. But i was stoked. I was yelling at my wife. DID YOU SEE THAT? THAT WAS AMAZING.
HOLY #@%$#!! She just said I was crazy and walked away. Haha!
Anyway... I'd love to hear other people's tales of amazing OBE's
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Mine was at 46.8 mph.
I looked down at the GPS and saw the speed. Out of the corner of my eye I saw the kite quickly fly behind me.
This was on the first day I ever rode the buggy on the playa.
Makes a great story tho.
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Blitzhound
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Maybe my wife is right...maybe I'm just crazy to think this is fun!
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Well I can tell you that there is that adrenaline rush when you get Obe'd and not injured... But then there that last one,... And then you decide
never to let it happen again. It can change your kiting experience for good ... I'd advise caution, Justsayin...
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Quote: Originally posted by soliver | Well I can tell you that there is that adrenaline rush when you get Obe'd and not injured... But then there that last one,... And then you decide
never to let it happen again. It can change your kiting experience for good ... I'd advise caution, Justsayin... |
I'll see Spencer's 10 and raise him 10-20. Justsayin...
http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=32253
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YES YOU CAN!
Curious who's medical bills were higher? :puzzled:
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Come to gusty Indiana wind. I promise you will not have fun on an OBE.
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Hardly a competition my friend. I was fortunate in that my insurance picked up the tab, but the actual bill was astronomical. Since I fell from a
great height, broke my helmet and blacked out for several minutes I got the full cranial and spinal X-ray and MRI trauma work up. My shoulder was also
injured and I had a lot of pain in my rib cage so they performed imaging studies of those areas as well.
I've got to be honest, the whole premise of this thread creeps me out a little. I'm not judging Blitzhound, but having very fortunately lived to opine
on this subject leaves me a little unsettled. I completely get the perspective here and I've laughed too after getting yanked around, but I've come to
truly appreciate just how much we as mobile powerkiters flirt with the edge by the very nature of this endeavor.
For buggying I now feel reasonably good that with an AQR installed that getting lofted shouldn't be an issue anymore, but I don't kid myself with
thoughts that OBEs are the only danger here. Early on I got myself quite hurt (and it could have been a lot worse) pile driving my buggy into a large
metal soccer goal. Snowkiting last winter I almost pulled myself into a barbed wire fence at high speed. Regretfully, I could go on as my list of
stupid mistakes is both long and distinguished (just like my...). Bottom line, I've come to appreciate that if I want to continue to enjoy being
pulled around by the wind (something I enjoy a lot!) I have to be highly risk adverse and conservative.
Yesterday reinforced just how much I am willing to make that trade off. I got some really sweet laps on a large grass field in my buggy with my all
time favorite kite Session Saver (a 12m Peak p2). There were some moments where the wind was just right, I was cruising along at a brisk by
comfortable pace, the kite was perfectly parked and rock steady about 10 feet off the ground and I had my 10-year old's grin firmly locked on my face.
I'm good with that.
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ssayre
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Ha, glad your insurance picked up the tab. Mine will too after I pay $10,000. That's one big reason for me to try and avoid injury.
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Holy shnike you need better insurance!
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well, we pay over $600 a month that covers nothing. Our other alternative is to pay $1,800 a month for better insurance.
I find I have 2 options in my profession. Make decent money and have no benefits or take a job with a crappy salary and have marginal insurance.
I'll take the money every time.
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Blitzhound
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I have always been a bit of an adrenaline junky. As a youngster I grew up on a farm riding horses, Bulls, dirt bikes, quads, snowmobiles, once I got
my license it was all about the hot rods. I drag raced. (PB 11.18 Sec. 1/4 mile) then I joined the Army. Served 5 years in the 82nd Airborne, jumping
out of airplanes for a living. Since then I have spent the majority of my life sailing the high seas. I've sailed around the globe at least 4 times.
I've sailed through a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico, ice shelf sin Antarctica, and survived the Bering Sea in the winter. My point I'm trying to
make is I'm no stranger to danger. I feel I'm well aware of the potential for injuries. At some point I'm sure it will happen when it isn't fun.
But...ultimately what I feel I was getting at was initially I was afraid of getting yanked out of the buggy. It was a scary proposition. But the
couple of times it's happened to me so far. We're not scary at all. They were actually quite exhilarating. I wasn't trying to dig up horror stories
or cause war flashbacks. I was only looking to see if others had had the same "that was awesome!" OBE experience I had. I'm sorry for your injuries.
It's never easy. But you got back on the horse. Good for you. My military career was cut short do to things going wrong with wind. My canopy rolled in
a shear wind, jumping into a canyon. and I fell about 100 feet to the ground. Shattered the left side of my body. I spent 5 months in a hospital bed
and it took me almost a year to walk again. So believe me when I say I have full respect for the power of wind. I apologize for posting this thread.
It was not my intent to stir up bad memories.
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I don't think there's any need to apologize. I think everyone gets the idea you were making and getting tossed around is fun when all ends well. It
reminds all of being young and wrecking our bikes or falling out of a tree. Maybe bad examples but you get the point.
And let's face it, if there was no element of danger and excitement none of us would be doing it.
Also, I admire everyone who has served and is serving. So thank you. One of the thing I wish I would have done.
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Quote: Originally posted by ssayre | I don't think there's any need to apologize. I think everyone gets the idea you were making and getting tossed around is fun when all ends well. It
reminds all of being young and wrecking our bikes or falling out of a tree. Maybe bad examples but you get the point.
And let's face it, if there was no element of danger and excitement none of us would be doing it.
Also, I admire everyone who has served and is serving. So thank you. One of the thing I wish I would have done. |
Yup. The thread kinda' warped into a "let's compare booboos" :o , but it looked to be in good fun.
Personally, I'd love to have an OBE that was fun. I guess I'm not that advanced yet
Go ahead... tell me to "go fly a kite!" Please!
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Never been in a buggy, but I did have an awesome session with my snowboard where the wind picked up more than I thought and tossed me around quite a
bit. Didn't think it had been that bad till I landed the kite and realized I'd broken my board pretty well in half just in front of my binding. Very
fun though and totally worth the $50 snowboard I busted. Already have the next cheap board ready for this year.
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Quote: Originally posted by ssayre | well, we pay over $600 a month that covers nothing. Our other alternative is to pay $1,800 a month for better insurance.
I find I have 2 options in my profession. Make decent money and have no benefits or take a job with a crappy salary and have marginal insurance.
I'll take the money every time. |
So much for Obummer care making health care affordable. Sorry to hear it man.
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Blitzhound
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Hiaguy: I don't know about being advanced. While I didn't get hurt and it was kinda fun. I admit all my OBE's were caused by me being a dumb dumb.
Maybe I'm an advanced dumb dumb. hahaha!
Brant: thanks for sharing that was I was originally getting at. Those times when things went bad but good at the same time. Sounds like quite the
ride. I'd love to get into snowkiting. Sadly it doesn't snow on the coast. But I do have some really nice beachs for buggyin.
I'm also sure that if I wasn't out on a sandy beach. That these events would not turn out as well as they do. I have yet to be yanked on hard pack. I
can't imagine that's not going to hurt.
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Quote: Originally posted by Blitzhound | I have always been a bit of an adrenaline junky. As a youngster I grew up on a farm riding horses, Bulls, dirt bikes, quads, snowmobiles, once I got
my license it was all about the hot rods. I drag raced. (PB 11.18 Sec. 1/4 mile) then I joined the Army. Served 5 years in the 82nd Airborne, jumping
out of airplanes for a living. Since then I have spent the majority of my life sailing the high seas. I've sailed around the globe at least 4 times.
I've sailed through a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico, ice shelf sin Antarctica, and survived the Bering Sea in the winter. My point I'm trying to
make is I'm no stranger to danger. I feel I'm well aware of the potential for injuries. At some point I'm sure it will happen when it isn't fun.
But...ultimately what I feel I was getting at was initially I was afraid of getting yanked out of the buggy. It was a scary proposition. But the
couple of times it's happened to me so far. We're not scary at all. They were actually quite exhilarating. I wasn't trying to dig up horror stories
or cause war flashbacks. I was only looking to see if others had had the same "that was awesome!" OBE experience I had. I'm sorry for your injuries.
It's never easy. But you got back on the horse. Good for you. My military career was cut short do to things going wrong with wind. My canopy rolled in
a shear wind, jumping into a canyon. and I fell about 100 feet to the ground. Shattered the left side of my body. I spent 5 months in a hospital bed
and it took me almost a year to walk again. So believe me when I say I have full respect for the power of wind. I apologize for posting this thread.
It was not my intent to stir up bad memories. |
Hey - it was really my bad. No apology needed Blitz. Your life sounds like it was and continues to be quite exhilarating. Good on ya! I'm not
exactly a stranger to danger either, having downhill ski raced through college and still doing some racing today in more of a gentleman's league being
as I'm 55 now. I have laughed a number of times when I got yanked out of my buggy, and more of my loftings have been as you describe than what I went
through a few months ago. Your 100 ft. fall in the canyon was all you needed in that department I'm sure.
My older brother was 25+ years in the Navy on SEAL Team 3 based out of San Diego and for many of those years was on their Leap Frogs jump team. Now
that was hairball! Back in the day they'd still be in formation below the lip of the stadiums they were usually jumping into. The winds could get
really squirrelly below the level of the lip as I'm sure you know.
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Blitz you've been living life the right way!
I've felt defeated and beaten any time I've been dragged out of the buggy. I guard against it at all costs. I'll pack up and go home or not even
unload the car if it doesn't feel right.
All my OBEs have been doing slow speed stuff to stop or turn around. The kite and I are happiest in motion. My system is happiest with a full plate of
apparent wind. I love that cruising at the limit. It's how I like to snow ski as well.
At some point, we start to get that crystal ball that tells us when things aren't right. I'm always watching for the warning signs that things aren't
right and I have planned responses for many of the common occurrences. It's worked so far, but I know I've been lucky and there aren't any promises
about my next time out or any time after that.
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Thanks Bobby. I don't know if it's the right way...but god damn it my way haha! My C.O. Used to tell me I was to stupid to be scared. I'm not sure if
he was complementing me or insulting me. I took as a compliment and as I get older I tend to agree quite often. I get the warnings from the old
internal glass ball telling me not to do thing. Unfortunately I usually just tell it to be quit. It hasn't always worked out for the best. I've had 43
bone fractures, two skin grafts. 800 stitches, and 300 staples in my life. Because of it.
Hey Windstruck. We're all still here to tell our tales and make or makeup new ones haha. When I first started sailing. An old salt by the name of
Chief Bob once told me. A sea story doesn't have to be true...it just has to be good! But I do feel I have reached a point in life where I'm still
young enough to still think I'm superman. But getting old enough to start realizing I'm not. I should probably wear more protection and be more
cautious. Cause damn it...I hate hospitals. I used to tell people I liked hospitals for the cute nurses. They might be cute but holy crap they're
expensive. At the going rate for a hospital visit it probably be cheaper to pay a hooker to wear a nurses outfit. Haha. Although I don't think my
insurance would cover that.
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PKD: Inferno 9m, 12m, 16.5m,
Ozone: SubZero: 5m, 7m, 9m, 11m, 13m, Access 6m, Pure 6m, Chrono V2 7m, V4 13m, Chrono EXP 7m, 9m, R1V3 21m
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