lp000028
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looking to buy 19 meter or larger twin skin
looking to buy 19 meter or larger twin skin
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Wind_dog
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Seriously ???
You have got to be kidding us.
Always on the steep part of the learning curve.
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Flysurfer Peak1 6m, Peak2 9m,Peak4, 3m
Misc. other kites, never getting out of their bags.
Riding a Libre Fullrace with an AQR on the beach
Riding a Blokart inland when gust factor > 4
And a couple Manta Singles for friends to ride.
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Gentlemen, he's obviously got something in mind - give him a break and be respectful.
@lp - the big arcs are kinda' like hens teeth: rare, and hard to extract if you find one. You're obviously looking for big. If you give us an idea of
your end game, perhaps there's an option that you haven't considered. (feel free to U2U me if you'd prefer)
Go ahead... tell me to "go fly a kite!" Please!
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Fly: A quiver of Lynx' and Cores (did someone say "Pansh"?), a couple o' Arcs, and a Rev to remind me about control
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lp000028
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i know trying to buy a kite from someone thats not trying to scam you, crazy concept .
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Try ebay
US-31...Cquad set/ 2.5 Bullet/ 2.6 Viper/ 2.9m Reactor/ 2- 3.5m Bullet/ 3.6 Beamer/ 4m Buster/ 4m Toxic/ 4m Ikon dp/ 4.5 Bullet/ 4.9m Blade/ 5.6
Twister/ 6.6m Blade/ 7.5 Apex/ 9m Fuel/ Phantom I 9,12,15,18/ 2 Flexibugs/ PL Big Foot/ landboards
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Wind_dog
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Options I suggest:
1) Buy a new kite from a retail source.
2) Find another outlet to make a used kite purchase (ebay, etc)
I think you lost some good will from many of us by asking,
then not listening,
then disrespecting our family members.
Always on the steep part of the learning curve.
Gin Shaman2 6m, 12m
Flysurfer Peak1 6m, Peak2 9m,Peak4, 3m
Misc. other kites, never getting out of their bags.
Riding a Libre Fullrace with an AQR on the beach
Riding a Blokart inland when gust factor > 4
And a couple Manta Singles for friends to ride.
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lp000028
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i will take my chances i'm sure there's some rational people on here.
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There are, rational enough not to sell you that kind of Kite. I am however kind enough to attempt to see if there are any available through my other
sources. Which of course at the moment there aren't. Good luck to y
Kites:
HQ: Rush V Pro 350, Apex IV 5.5m, Montana VII 7m, Montana VIII 10m & 14m
Ozone access XC 4m, access v7 4m, access v6 12m, Frenzy 07 7.5m, Frenzy 9m
FlySurfer Speed 4 Lotus 21m, Speed 4 9m, Unity 6, & 10m, Psycho 3 13m
2010 Best Waroo 5m trainer LEI
GI Patrol 106, skis? yup lots, snowboards? Couple of those too
Libre full race stainless
Libre Hardcore
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hiaguy is on the right track, we'd like to offer you help, so if you can tell us what you want to do, we can either confirm what you are thinking or
offer you a better suggestion. Knowing your skill level as well will open up a level of confidence in whether or not this is the right track for you.
What's your endgame? A kite of this size is NOT a kite for the beginner or novice kiter.
I honestly want to know why you want or need a kite of this size for? What do you plan to do with it? What experience do you have within the sport?
No one wants to scam you... we just want to know what you're thinking. You have an army here of very experienced people ready and willing to help you.
So if you can drop caution flags and turn off the alarm bells, you'll be able to hear that and listen to the help we are ready to give.
If YOU don't offer up anything, there is very little likelihood that anyone else will offer up anything, especially not a 19m+ sized kite
And for the record, all kites dubbed with the label "Twin Skin" are or were manufactured by Peter Lynn and are frequently referred to as "Arcs"...
this is common knowledge in the kiting community. SO when you ask whether you should get either a "Twin Skin" or a "Peter Lynn Kite," you are
basically asking whether you should get a "Peter Lynn Kite" or a "Peter Lynn Kite"... I'm not trying to be a smart Alec, just pointing this out so
that you understand that this is a red flag that says to many of us that you may not have much (if any) experience,... in which case, a 19m+ sized
kite is a big whomping NO NO for you. (and probably why the deal fell through with your last attempted purchase).
We really DO want to help you, so please let us. Otherwise you really DO risk serious injury or worse.
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lp000028
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the largest kite i have is a fly surfer 19m speed 2. i got this under control.
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Acquiring kites is easy. Flying them and being safe about it is on a whole different level.
PL Venom II 16m, HQ Apex III 7.5m, Pansh Flux 2m & 4m
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A 19m speed probally has the same power as a 24 meter twin skin as twinskins are 2 to 3 sizes dwn in power compared to foils and also probally slower
than the flysurfer speed. if u looking for more power in lighter wind a 21m flysurfer speed might be your best bet. and im thinking this is for the
water like kitesurfing or on snow fir snowkiting right cause 21 or 24m kites dont make good low wind engines on land as they are super slow in
light wind and will overpwr u quickly with decent wind on land.
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Quote: Originally posted by gemini6kl  | A 19m speed probally has the same power as a 24 meter twin skin as twinskins are 2 to 3 sizes dwn in power compared to foils and also probally slower
than the flysurfer speed. if u looking for more power in lighter wind a 21m flysurfer speed might be your best bet. and im thinking this is for the
water like kitesurfing or on snow fir snowkiting right cause 21 or 24m kites dont make good low wind engines on land as they are super slow in
light wind and will overpwr u quickly with decent wind on land. |
that's what I was thinking as well - big arcs are actually slow and gentle to fly, I'd be more concerned flying a fixed bridle above an 9m compared to
a 19-22m arc - but still not a kite for a beginner by any means.
Mark Groshens NAPKA KC 13
WindSpeed kites & design - Canada
Peter Lynn Arcs: Charger2 22.5 +18 + 15 + 6.5, Charger I 6, Scorpion 16 + 10, Phantom II 12 + 9, Orig Phantom 9 + 6, Synergy 10 + 8, F 1200, S 840
Ocean Rodeo: Flite 17 + 12, Rise 13 + 10 + 7, Razor 9 + 6
Foils: PL Leopards and Lynx, Airea Raptors, some PL Reactor IIs + IIIs, Libre Spirits, Cross Kite Sonics, Ozone Flow
Peter Lynn Kite Cat for cruising the lakes
buggies: PL XR+, Cameleon Pagona, custom bigfoot, PL Bigfoot, custom ice buggy
Boards: 2 custom directionals, O.R Surf series 6-3 and 5-11, Mako Duke, Mako Skinny, Mako 140 Wide, Mako 150 Wide, Mako King, Brunotti
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I tried... I'm out
Thanks for the email Jeff.
I'm going to take a nap now
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Continuing to disrespect most of the folks on here as well as a payment practice that has worked fine here for us for a decade or more is not a good
way to be treated with widespread respect. I have a ~24m arc and if I was willing to sell it, I would be reluctant to enter into a deal with you. You
can fix your relationship with the great people that make up this community, but so far you're doing it wrong for the most part.
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lp000028
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disrespecting most of the folks on here ,wait i was trying to disrespect everybody, who did i miss ?
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Quote: Originally posted by markite  | Quote: Originally posted by gemini6kl  | A 19m speed probally has the same power as a 24 meter twin skin as twinskins are 2 to 3 sizes dwn in power compared to foils and also probally slower
than the flysurfer speed. if u looking for more power in lighter wind a 21m flysurfer speed might be your best bet. and im thinking this is for the
water like kitesurfing or on snow fir snowkiting right cause 21 or 24m kites dont make good low wind engines on land as they are super slow in
light wind and will overpwr u quickly with decent wind on land. |
that's what I was thinking as well - big arcs are actually slow and gentle to fly, I'd be more concerned flying a fixed bridle above an 9m compared to
a 19-22m arc - but still not a kite for a beginner by any means. |
^^^^^^^  ^^^^^^^
Arcs / Twin skins don't like winds under 5mph. No matter what size! :duh: THAT is what our 19m Speed's are for.
( P.S. I am simply feeding the troll because there is no wind to play with. )
Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
Flysurfer : 19m Speed 2 SA, 7m Pulse
Peter Lynn :18m Phantom, 15m Synergy, 10m Synergy, 1200 Farc, 460 Sarc, 130 Tarc, 5m Peel, 4.2m , 6.4, 8.5 C-Quads, 3.5 LS2 single skin.
Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .
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Hey Lyn, I think you would be better off looking on eBay or CL where no one knows who you are.
I hope the best for you and hope you find what your looking for. I don't believe you will get what you need here.
Good luck.
Appex buggy, Libre hardcore buggies.
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PKD Century Soulflys. NPW's. Nasa Stars.
A few other less flown oddballs,
Line sets from 10" to 328" or 2m to 100m.
worlds only AQR that works.
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lp000028
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i feel like i'm in a job interview beings questioned about my past history in kiting skills . no sir you don't qualify to fly a kite that size ,we are
terribly sorry. LOL
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This isn't Walmart or EBay. You are trying to buy a very potentially dangerous kite from a stranger as a stranger. Anyone that owns a kite like this
knows exactly how badly someone could get hurt or even killed. Especially in the hands of a novice. If I sold my 16m Venom to a newbie and they got
hurt or worse. I would feel responsible, and rightly so. Selling a kite like that to a novice would be very irresponsible on my part. The questions
aren't meant to be a job interview. People are simply trying to be a responsible seller and in the process maybe not get someone hurt. If you truly
own and fly a 19m FS Speed. Then you know exactly what I'm talking about and you know and understand just how dangerous these things are.
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It's a free market and the seller sets the terms and conditions. If you don't like the way PKF and its members operate, feel free to leave.
Depower Quiver: 14m Gin Eskimo, 10m Gin Eskimo III, 6m Gin Yeti, 4.5m Gin Yeti (custom bridle and mixer)
Fixed Bridle Quiver: MAC Bego 400, JOJO ET Instinct 2.5 & 5.5, Lil Devil 1.5, Sting 1.2
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Quote: Originally posted by lp000028  | i feel like i'm in a job interview beings questioned about my past history in kiting skills . no sir you don't qualify to fly a kite that size ,we are
terribly sorry. LOL |
Believe it or not, despite your best efforts, most of us are willing to help. What we are desperately trying to avoid, is you getting hurt by flying
a kite outside your skill range.. What we are trying to avoid EVEN more, and selfishly so, is you getting hurt, capturing it on your GoPro, posting it
to YouTube and our entire hobby paying the price by getting more of our favorite venues closed using you video as an excuse of what those crazy kiters
do.. It's NOT personal (for most of us) it's simply, we want to welcome you into the sport the right way and supply you with the equipment most
appropriate for you. We take a huge level of personal interest in kites we sell and own.
We often get newbies trying to find large kites to go kite jumping.. Despite all the glamour and showmanship of kite jumping, it is NOT EVER where you
start..
Kicking in the door at PowerKiteForum and slamming one of our trusted members was a heck of an introduction.. Despite that, several folks are
reaching out and trying to connect with what you want.. It's not a job interview but it is learning the secret handshake of trust..
Be square with us on your skill level and your end goal. 99% of us will steer you in the right direction. I personally won't advise you on a depower
kite since that's not what I fly. I'll defer that advice to those forum members that do.
Heck, there's probably a few of us that would still meet up with you somewhere and fly with you using OUR kites to help you in making the decision
that right for you.
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It is just possible that a few folks on here don't think they are being Scammed by your advert / poll and are trying to figure out why on earth you
are so desperate for a Monster arc. There are many good reasons that these big old arcs are so hard to find. They may be wanting to offer you
something that you don't want... advice!
Personally as an owner / operator of large arcs and a 19m Speed 2 I would be looking to upgrade the year / model of my Speed. Arcs are too inificient
in very low winds.
I find myself wondering if you are unable to create a credible history or reason for needing this kite? With SO much experience it seems strange you
have never met any of us or have a crew that can help you find an arc. You aren't the 1st troll to visit and won't be the last. If it hadn't rained 34
of the last 37 days I wouldn't be so bored as to entertain you.
Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
Flysurfer : 19m Speed 2 SA, 7m Pulse
Peter Lynn :18m Phantom, 15m Synergy, 10m Synergy, 1200 Farc, 460 Sarc, 130 Tarc, 5m Peel, 4.2m , 6.4, 8.5 C-Quads, 3.5 LS2 single skin.
Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .
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Have a blimp I used to fly in arenas with advertising on both sides. It's got a twin skin. Would this work for you?:D
PS I have a 16 lei 1 skin I'd sell cheap. Just add a 3m anything and your there!
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Beamer 1.8m, 2.5m A Chekka A few Zebras
4m Ozone Access de-power foil, prototype (for sale)
Wipika gear 5m DP (for sale) PL 8.6m Reactor
Big E NPW 21 6m custom NASA
A couple of monster tube kites I don't have the balls yet to fly.
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http://m.ebay.com/itm/Peter-Lynn-Charger-22-5-kiteboarding-l...
There you go!
Kites:
HQ: Rush V Pro 350, Apex IV 5.5m, Montana VII 7m, Montana VIII 10m & 14m
Ozone access XC 4m, access v7 4m, access v6 12m, Frenzy 07 7.5m, Frenzy 9m
FlySurfer Speed 4 Lotus 21m, Speed 4 9m, Unity 6, & 10m, Psycho 3 13m
2010 Best Waroo 5m trainer LEI
GI Patrol 106, skis? yup lots, snowboards? Couple of those too
Libre full race stainless
Libre Hardcore
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Why would someone want an Arc this big now days? Haven't they been superseded by Flysurfers 20m Speeds?
PL Venom II 16m, HQ Apex III 7.5m, Pansh Flux 2m & 4m
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