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[*] posted on 20-3-2007 at 02:03 PM
Introduction to Buggying on Ivanpah Workshop


If this is your first time kite buggying on a dry lake it will be an experience that will get your adrenalin running. First of all we want this to be a safe experience; the surface is as hard as a blacktop parking lot and the winds will probably be stronger than you ever buggied in before.

I will be moderator of a Beginners Workshop to be held at 10 AM Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, meeting at main tent.

I am asking for experienced dry Lake Buggiers to help me with these workshops so the new people can learn from our good and bad experiences.

Conditions permitting a small course will be set up afterwards for the first timers to develop your skills on.

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[*] posted on 20-3-2007 at 02:42 PM


Thanks, being a beginner any pointers will help. A couple of questions;
1. Somewhere I read that the dry lake bed is real hard on buggy tires. Now, I'm not planning any high speed runs, freestyle, etc so is this a major concern for a beginner? My tires only have a few hours on them, and are 2 ply.
2. Generally what are the winds like during this event. I know that Mother Nature doesn't like to be predictable but what has history shown?

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[*] posted on 20-3-2007 at 02:53 PM


You will wear thru 2 ply tires in a day, get a set of 4 ply and you will last a week. This is my 5 year and have been in winds from 0- 55 mph. Most days start off light and build to a steady flow by sunset...........aj



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[*] posted on 21-3-2007 at 09:05 AM


Even with the 4 ply you gotta watch how aggressive you are. Last year I burned through a brand new set of 4 plys after the first 2 days - sucks when you get a blow out across the lakebed. But that's going fast and really scrubbing the tires a lot and buggying from morning until dusk without taking much of a break. You can make them last longer by watching the inflation pressure and easing up on the turns etc and not sliding and playing like you are on a beach.
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[*] posted on 21-3-2007 at 11:38 AM


Yea, if you are used to grass or sand riding, you are prolly used to scrubbing speed by sliding. This is the tire killer! Learn, instead, to gently edge upwind and bring your kite CAREFULLY (so you dont get OBE'd) higher, and you will gradually slow down. Not as impressive or fun as a huge slide, but will save your tires.

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[*] posted on 21-3-2007 at 05:36 PM


Fran,

I am not sure of my schedule but would love to help out with your beginner workshop. I think this is an awesome idea to help beginners get out on the playa.

Look me up and we can work out some details.



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[*] posted on 22-3-2007 at 11:19 AM


RE: Beginner Buggy Workshop

I am happy to contribute my skills and understanding of playa-buggy technique at your workshop.
We don't have to meet before-hand to go over anything.
We both know what is needed and when.
I'll be there.

Tires:
I typically put well over 500 miles on a set of rear tires before they need changing.
While I don't spend a lot of time side-ways on my buggy, I do like to slide turns - Often.
I watch my tire pressure carefully and keep it over 20 psi.
Pressure can alter ride-comfort (softer=smoother) and grip (harder=faster).
Adjust your pressure so you have a balance between comfort and grip that suits you and your riding style.
Sliding turns on softer tires will increase wear-rates.

Ride like Fritz:
When he had a blow-out across the lakebed, Fritz Gramkowski rode all the way back to camp on two wheels.
So there!


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[*] posted on 22-3-2007 at 03:36 PM


My first year I was paranoid about tires and getting a flat when I was out there and not having spares and having my whole week ruined with nothing to do, etc etc. I got paranoid with wearing out my tires fast from what people where posting, but it ended up being a non-concern. I've used the same set of slick for two NABX trips and they'll probably be fine for another. Make sure you get four ply for sure.

I mostly just cruise when I'm there, I get all I want of turning a lot on the soccer fields around here! I'm also pushing 300lbs, so I think that keeps me from side slipping much!

Now I know that even if all else goes wrong, there is always the option of racing your shot car with Corey, 'cause lord knows he doesn't buggy during NABX, what with having to hold court and everything! :P
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[*] posted on 22-3-2007 at 05:08 PM


Well, slicks are cheap if you buy them before hand, I figure what I don't use this year, I'll use next year. I've got 3 sets of slicks going down with me and a set of the original 4 ply ribbed tires. Starting out tubeless, but have tubes just in case.

I like speed, I push pretty hard, I love sliding. I've never been on the playa, so it looks like a recipe for tire wear to me.



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[*] posted on 22-3-2007 at 10:28 PM


My first couple of years i wore out two rear sets in one week. Now i have better tires, and different buggy.

4 ply must.

Sliding fun.

Riding fun.

Who wants to see every square inch of the lake?

Big follow the leader coming, stay tuned.

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[*] posted on 22-3-2007 at 11:29 PM


OOOOHHHH, I wanna join the buggy conga line too!



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[*] posted on 23-3-2007 at 05:38 PM


Me too, me too.



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[*] posted on 23-3-2007 at 05:51 PM


i'm in if we all fly npw's....

we can block off fri, sat, and sun, for a run to the highway and back (yeah, i'm optomistic that we can make it in three days)....

get a ground crew to take supplies...

see every inch of the lakebed....

who's with me....

chance to shine....



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[*] posted on 23-3-2007 at 06:56 PM


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[*] posted on 23-3-2007 at 07:13 PM


from ancient lore, we once all rode together and not knowing a place, would often go out to explore it.

once the lama was our leader.

we are asking again, if our leader, who is not to old, nor infirm, nor feeble of mind, would mind, leading us one more time!!??

could it happen?

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[*] posted on 23-3-2007 at 07:21 PM


make it so my npw brother......



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[*] posted on 23-3-2007 at 08:21 PM


I've got one, can I play too??????????????????

Weeeeeeeeeeee :singing::singing::singing:LOL

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[*] posted on 23-3-2007 at 08:42 PM


can we get an amen for npw brother sockhat....

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[*] posted on 23-3-2007 at 09:27 PM


Thanx dude...

You know how to make a guy feel welcomed...

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