I have been flying traction kites for a while and have decided to get a new kite specifically for jumping. I looked at the blade 4m maybe as i am about 11 stone. I basically just wondered what was the best kite to get for making big airs.

thanks in advance
wannabe

I wonder if surf kites would be good for land jumping. Prob is, they develop so much lift that you may be up for longer than you wish. Then again, their de-power system may allow you to control when/where you come down (speculation).

Otherwise, I think the best kites for jumping on land are still the classic style Flexifoil 8' or 10'.

Blades? Hmmm, probably not the best.

I dont mean to step on anyones toes or contradict what anyone says, but you will definitely want to stick with a blade style kite for jumping. The 4m tends to be a little small for the job. You would want at least a 4.9, and then only in about 15mph wind. To actually jump well, you need to have enough power to scudd easily along the ground. One of the easiest ways to jump, is to park the kite, dig your heels in, then launch the kite all the way overhead. If you have enough power (wind for the particular kite) you will be lifted off the ground. The secret is staying in one place and not getting pulled forward and building tension on the lines before leaving the ground.

I personally have a MacPara Bego 600 that I jump with. It will lift me clean off the ground in 15mph wind without swinging it to the top. (Im 300 pounds)

Here is the good and bad about jumping and kite sizes. Small kites and jumping will get you hurt. You get a sudden gust with a 4m kite, and you get alot of air, but then you dont have enough sail up there to keep you up. So you crash down at a good rate of speed. If you have a larger kite, you get set down much easier with the parachute effect. Another thing is wind speed. To get the power out of a small kite, you need a lot of wind, and higher winds tend to be gusty. Lower winds for jumping with a larger kite, tend to be less gusty and more stable. I hope this helps anyone that reads it, and please feel free to send me a message with questions.

Scoop

hi will agree with the small kite bigg gust thing
i have a 4 mtr firebee and caught a double gust while jumping
fisst one was ok... just what i wanted
but the second one took me right up
maybe 15 ft
who knows
all i know is it spat me out and dropped me
droke a bone in my heal and was out of kiting for some time
that was a year ago and it still plays up
but i must say that feeling uf getting lifted like that made me go out and get a 7mtr pkd buster
which is much more stable and in strong winds can give you a fair bit of lift.... but the ultimate i have tried so far is the blade

Wallis, you should get ahold of a Mac Bego, man what lift. In 10-15 mph wind I can hardly keep my feet on the ground. ( I weight 295 pounds)

Scoop

I own a Blade II 6.4
If youwant to get air this is pretty good kite.
I use mine for recreational flying, jumping and mainly bugging.
It is not a bad size for all these as long as you have a bit of experience!
I agree that a 4m is a bit small. I bought my kite new last year for £450 complete but if you look on ebay you can pick one up for around £250. GUTTED! Anyway, if all you want to do is get air I would recomend the larger sizes like the 6.4 or a little larger.

in faster wind it does drop you very easily

i got dropped by it, even though i knew the wind was gusty we just had to go out with it to get some big air

i was trying to bid for a blade2 4m on ebay but i havent got the cash for it now the bid has got higher, but i do like the blade because it has that lift that is needed for jumping

thinking about it if i save for a 6.6 i can go out in pretty much slow wind and still have a good time but i dont know where im goin to get £400 from as i need a car

anyone want to sell me their 5-8m kite? cheapy please cos i want a good time for when my m8 is not in

i am totally new to kiting and have only flown a kite once. i am looking at getting a kite that i can jump with. im 16 stone and would like to know what size i would need and does the make matter if so what model or make should i get.

I wouldnt start jumping with anything less than about 5 meters.

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I wouldnt start jumping with anything less than about 5 meters.

I agree, but I wouldn't recommend learning on anything larger than a 3 or 4 meter.

i use a 15.5 flysurfer titain and can do 20foot jump with a bord,, 80kg rider

Looking at when this thread started this might be a little late. My 5 meter gets a lot of attention when I fly it and people ask if they can give it a go. Well, the answer is always, "I've got a different one you can fly." I then go and get my 3 meter dual line (which was picking my wife off the ground the other night) and see if they can fly that. Most of them struggle, but I can stand behind and coach them and even put my hands on theirs to keep it from crashing. Last weekend I had family that had flown my 3 meter wanting to fly the quad line 5 meter. Well, the winds were really light, so I let them. But, even standing behind them and doing all of the same things I do when coaching people with the dual line, the quad line wrecked several times (thank goodness for reverse take off- which I always had to perform). Moral of the story is that I agree with doomwheels; learn on something small and then go up.

I have to Bullets 2.5 & 5.5 been flying them for 3 years. I think its time for lift mode. I weigh 208 lbs 6' tall been looking at the Blades lll 8.5 & 6.6. Winds very here at 5-25 mph. Need to make up my mind, what do you say.Should I

6.6 launches me like nothin else. (in the right winds) 6.6 in its best range, vs 8.5 in its best range, I would pick the 6.6 anyday

Scoop

Just a note about the Mac Begos. We are now importing them. I'm looking for the first shipment before the weekend (before Kitestorm) hopefully, but you never know with customs. Prices are up on the website.

Ross, dont even think of a Bego on a Bar. I distributed for Andy for a while, and have very good knowledge of them. They require constant brake fiddling while flying and you just cant do that on a bar.

Scoop

I would never consider putting a Bego on a bar. That would be sort of like a Century on a bar. I've got a few hours on a 4m Bego. Never even crossed my mind to put it on a bar. Been flying the Blades more on handles as well. I used to keep them set up on bars and carry a set of handles. Now they are all set up on handles and I carry a 70cm bar, just incase I get lazy.

I have a full quiver of the new Rage kites here with a new extreme bar. Be interesting to see how well the Rage flies on a bar. That's tomorrows mission. I have to get them all rigged for Kitestorm.

So Ross, are you going to be distributing or just going to be the sole supplier of retail Begos?

Scoop

Distributing eventually...Hopefully within the next few months, but there are some issues to iron out. We can discuss further offline if you want.

Despite what you may think, you can put a bego on a bar successfully, but it will probably not perform well on a normal bar, but if you set up a depower bar, it works a treat. because the power lines come into the middle of the bar, and the brakes on the ends, its very manoverable because you are steering on the brakes. if you then pull the bar in it applies more brake, which up to a point creates more power . i know it works well on this bar set up simply because i have tried it.

Sorry Jim, didnt really mean it that way. YOu can fly ANY kite on a bar, but the bego is much better on handles.

Scoop

I know you can put any kite on a bar, an some perform crap, some good and some great, but what i was saying is that the depower bar probably works better than you think. you dont get the same raw power feeling like you do on handles though, but each to their own. i did like the bar, but the bego loves the handles

hello everybody, i'm pleased to come and join you on this forum that i've just come across. After reading that guys post at the start of the thread and feel compelled to tell you of my recent airborne experience with my blade lll 4.9. Ive had my blade since October 2005 and it was my first power kite and boy i didnt have a clue as to how powerful this thing was. Gradually i built up my confidence and began scudding and jumping. I was begining to get 6-8ft airs and scudding 30ft+ on a launch, things were going well, until. On 05/03/06 i to the blade out for an airing after some line adjustments, wind was a little gusty at times but i hadn't flown in before, the kite didn't seem to respond as what i was used to it seemed a little more aggressive and lifty, still getting somee good air though. Anyway the wind stopped and the blade collapsed and drifted into the bottom middle of the window, then a huge gust came outta knowhere, inflated the blade, caught me off guard and took me 10ft up,30ft downwind then slammed me into the frozen ground at a dagerous rate of knots! I sustained a tibial plateau fracture on my right leg, i'm in a plaster cast for 8 weeks then god knows how long or much physio and the day before my crash landing i had bought a silver reef 2 landboard. With all honesty any one getting into power kiting start small and work ya way up, but no matter how experienced you are accidents WILL happen!
I'm laying in bed now contemplating what klite to buy to start learning to board with, any idea's, i'm not looking for a kite with lift yet?:puzzled:

Tons of kites to choose from with no lift. If you want something of good quality here are a few choices-

Flexi's new Rage
Ozone's Fury or Samurai
Ozone's Riot is a great lifting kite thats very tame compared to the blade
Peter Lynn's Pepper

If your looking for lower quality (cheaper price)
Hq's beamer 2, beamer tsr, or crossfire (crossfire will lift, but again, not like a blade)
PKD Buster or Brooza


HOpe this helps
Scoop

whats the pl pepper like and what size would you reccomend i look at, i aint no light boy at 90kgs

depends on your wind, but I woud say 3.5 would go nicely with your 4.9 blade..

Scoop

I just bought a HQ Crossfire 5.0 and it provides plenty of lift for a person at 200lbs/14+ stone.

mmmm, super floaty jumps in 18mph with a 13m Venom. I'm 240lbs. And that's just static, when moving on a board there's way more lift on tap.

Currently though I'm waiting on a set of Broozas, I'll let you know how it goes.

Tested a 10m Flysurfer Speed today. First time I have been on edge flying a kite in something like 3 years. I was a bit nervous. This kite builds power and keeps building. Kinda flies funny though. Not a real nice kite to steer.

Scoop

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Originally posted by dizzy hello everybody, i'm pleased to come and join you on this forum that i've just come across. After reading that guys post at the start of the thread and feel compelled to tell you of my recent airborne experience with my blade lll 4.9. Ive had my blade since October 2005 and it was my first power kite and boy i didnt have a clue as to how powerful this thing was. Gradually i built up my confidence and began scudding and jumping. I was begining to get 6-8ft airs and scudding 30ft+ on a launch, things were going well, until. On 05/03/06 i to the blade out for an airing after some line adjustments, wind was a little gusty at times but i hadn't flown in before, the kite didn't seem to respond as what i was used to it seemed a little more aggressive and lifty, still getting somee good air though. Anyway the wind stopped and the blade collapsed and drifted into the bottom middle of the window, then a huge gust came outta knowhere, inflated the blade, caught me off guard and took me 10ft up,30ft downwind then slammed me into the frozen ground at a dagerous rate of knots! I sustained a tibial plateau fracture on my right leg, i'm in a plaster cast for 8 weeks then god knows how long or much physio and the day before my crash landing i had bought a silver reef 2 landboard. With all honesty any one getting into power kiting start small and work ya way up, but no matter how experienced you are accidents WILL happen! I'm laying in bed now contemplating what klite to buy to start learning to board with, any idea's, i'm not looking for a kite with lift yet?:puzzled:

Thanks Dizzy. Im a beginner and I was sure I was going for a 5m2 Ozone Samurai. But I think not, I've read to many of warnings on these boards about not starting with a big kite. So Im thinking about buying a 3.0 or a 4.0 Samurai.