It might be time to change buggys.

I have a Libre Full Race.

Lots of defunct makers (Dakites, Ivanpah, Xxtreme, VTT). Who is still making buggys?

Do any of you want to sell your high-end buggy?
Paul

Quote: Originally posted by jeepersjoey

It might be time to change buggys. I have a Libre Full Race. Lots of defunct makers (Dakites, Ivanpah, Xxtreme, VTT). Who is still making buggys? Do any of you want to sell your high-end buggy? Paul

Assuming you already checked in with him, but have you pinged Van to see if he wants to fire up the forge and make you one? Folks seem to really like his. I certainly like his seat and side rail kit.

Sysmic, MG, GT. I personally own a GT and know that two more locally have bought one and absolutely love them as do I. Three GT's here at the Bash and we have two MG buggy's and at least one Sysmic

Davis (cheeks) was selling his Ivanpah recently, not sure if he ever got it sold or not.

Dodd Gross just got a GT Rapide and other than my buggy, it is the best fitting I've ever sat in. It has a wider axle than my Apexx which I like even though I've never had issues with my buggy geometry.

I offered to Van but he is not building anymore.

I sent a message to Davis and have not gotten a response yet.

The sysmic S1 is $1644. Shipping is $467. Plus, unless told otherwise, I am assuming that I need to pay the VAT (+$244). Over $2000.

I need to find a U.S.A. Builder or someone here that is selling and has already forgotten how much they paid to ship it!!


Paul

You don't have to pay the VAT tax.

Sysmic are currently out of stock...

Yup...and no response to the email I sent a week ago.

How do you know all of the items are out of stock?

Paul

Quote: Originally posted by jeepersjoey

How do you know all of the items are out of stock?

http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=34098#pid32...

Yup...and no response to the email I sent a week ago.

How do you know all of the items are out of stock?

Paul

It seems like flexifoil is out of the buggy business.

Not the high end models you are after but they made a great buggy.

SAD

Quote: Originally posted by Bladerunner

It seems like flexifoil is out of the buggy business.

I also thought of flexifoil earlier. Also Popeye the Welder.

Great, I have two buggies and neither of them are "current". I don't care, I love them both for their own reasons.

Are Apexx buggys still being made?

Elliot Virus?

https://shop.elliot.de/shop/artikel/EL412.php

MG makes some seriously SWEET buggies!

Quote: Originally posted by mougl

MG makes some seriously SWEET buggies!

I'll second this! I LOVE my MG Croozer! It has found its forever home!

I sent them an email asking what they had available.

Their website does not appear to have been updated since late 2017.

Mougle...how much did you pay for yours and what was the shipping cost?

Paul

I am not at liberty to discuss the price. Shipping was around 400 from France. Maarten (owner of MG if I am not mistaken) has been extremely busy lately so he might take a little time to respond.

Maarten (MG) had shut down making buggies a while back and then had gone into making really nice landsailers. I think that Edge buggy being a one off was one of Maartens recent example of his continuous interest in exploring design and still making buggies for himself and then selling as he gets a new idea to explore - he does keep in touch with people that had purchased his buggies and are selling used and you never know he may have something new buggy wise coming out - it looks like he is more active on Facebook if you search MG-kites

Most of my interaction with maarten is via Facebook. I can't wait to get my edge!!!!!! ALL of his buggies are built quite well with a keen focus on not only quality but function, aesthetics, and comfort. No, they are not the lowest cost buggies around but their value (in my opinion) is amazing! You could spend a lot more and not get the quality he puts out.

Will you have the MG by JIBE time?.... I'd love to see it in person!

Quote: Originally posted by jeepersjoey

I sent them an email asking what they had available. Their website does not appear to have been updated since late 2017. Paul

keep in mind MG is just one person, Maarten de Graauw, making things himself. (You can see photos of Maarten racing the edge buggy last fall on his f.b. photos when you go to Maartens personal page)

He is out of buggies to sell.

He has two AERO II that he is testing. Once testing is done, he will build again.

I ask on the price because he did not answer that question and there are no prices on his site. Trying to figure out if he is selling a $1000, $1500, or $2000 Buggy.

Granted, he may make a few versions.

If you are keeping tally on who is building or has them:
VTT - nope.
MG - nope
XXtreme - nope
Apex - nope
Sysmic - nope
Flexifoil - nope

Luckily...I have a year to troll the used adverts.
Paul

Why are you looking for something different than your Libre pro race? Whay is it missing or not doing? What are you looking for in your next buggy, Bigfoot tires,
more fitted side rails, front suspension?

Did you look back at BBS [Richards new buggy maker] out of Germany? When we were on their site [albeit tenuous in English] they have three models that appear to be of good quality and size for holding down Shuttle landing drogues.

I take it since you started this thread that you are also striking out on finding a Libre Bigfoot front end? Or did you determine that you have bent your side rails? [for those of you watching from the cheap seats his buggy looked like it needed an alignment when it was sitting on the Playa including very eccentric tyre wear].

Two items...
1. I am thinking of going to 17" skinny's. To do this, I need a new front end. I have to assume the front end is $400-700. At which point I am 1/4 to 1/2 the way to a new buggy.

2. My buggy exhibited weird tire wear after the 10 days on the playa. Granted, I was somewhat sideways during most of this time and the tires are made to go straight ahead, not at a constant 20-45 degree twist.

Bonus item: I am completely stripping my Libre and removing all bolts. Once I put it back together, I hope to be able to see if there is twist in the axle such that it still shows the ~1-2" height difference that John mentioned.

Lastly...The Buggy can handle my multiple runs to 40 mph but I am still strapped and want to consider (to protect my girlie hips) hot-wiring to the buggy. This will require a more solid, albeit offset, neck.

Ok...I also like shiny things.
Paul

jeepers: There is a facebook group dedicated to kites/buggies/boards for sale and several NICE buggies have popped up there. everything from PL to PTW, Apexx, MG, sysmic, etc.