Hey guys,

Friend of mine had a couple of power kites when we were kids and spent many a summers day playing away. Few years ago bought my self a couple of kites but have both been sat in the garage sadly forgotten about untill recently. Currently have chunk of time of from work, wanting to make the most of the sunny weather. Tried flying both of the kites the other day but the bridle lines are incorrectly set, and struggling the adjust and find the best set up, not sure if anyone can help ? searched online for detailed photos or diagrams without joy. emailed a couple of local companies but neither can or are willing to help as they are land kits.

I have a pansh ace 8.0m and Quadrifoil Q 2000 4m

Any help very much appreciated

James

Hi James. Why do you suspect the bridle lines are incorrectly set ?
Welcome to the forum btw. I have no doubt you'll find the advice you're looking for here.

Quote: Originally posted by RedSky

Hi James. Why do you suspect the bridle lines are incorrectly set ? Welcome to the forum btw. I have no doubt you'll find the advice you're looking for here.

Thankyou !

The pansh is near impossible to get off the ground, and can see a mix between tension and slack lines, also had a passer by point it out to me.

The q2000 gets up off the ground fine, but then spins wildly out of control the moment you do, again can see various tension between the lines.

Ive just untied all the bridle lines, and just left with the lines directly connected to the kite.

Seems the bridle lines were connected in a random order.
I have the following lines, but unsure on which lines attach to which

4 x 75cm
9 x 100cm
2 x 110cm
2 x 130cm

Have you checked that your flying lines are of equal length. Sometimes some stretch and that can cause the spinning you speak of.
Stake all lines to one point then hold the other ends equal in your hand compare the slack/belly of each line. They should be the same.

Yes, Flying lines are the same length

There are 19 x 3 rows of power lines and 16 break lines.
Working on basis of attaching the shorter bridles from the outside in.
But I am thrown by the odd number of rows, and as such where to attach the last row.
Also unsure on the grouping of the lines, if to attach them in horizontal groups 1x3,1x4 ect, or if more 2x3,3x3 ect.
Sorry for the various updates, but trying to power through and get her up in the air !!!

Thank you in advance for any advice and help

I would contract Quadrifoil and see if they can provide a bridle chart. I think they are still in business.



If no one here comes up with a better idea and if you strike out completely with Quadrifoil then you might see if this gives you any insight into how to set the bridles up, though I am pretty sure this is not the same kite.

https://www.kiteplans.org/planos/c22/c22.html



As for the Pansh they are in business so you might contact them though I would not hold my breath waiting for an answer.

This might not be the solution you are looking for but someone here has a small Ace (2.5 m) for sale. Check the for sale section. You might buy it and then see if you can follow the bridle pattern on that kite with yours. 8 M is pretty big to start with anyway, so the small Pansh might be worth buying. (Another alternative - see if the seller might send you picture of the bridle pattern).

For that matter check and see if anyone has your Q 2000 for sale and might have some documentation with it they could copy and send you.

quadrifoil - the last owner being Active People - hasn't been in business for many years.
original quatrefoil designer (Ted Doherty) I think still makes kites but he had nothing to do with Competition or Q200 series

there are a good number of Q series kites still around

Hi newbie
I have 2 q2000 4 meter foils one I have been using for years
And one brand new I'm sure if you send me the kite I can
Get to fly right it's up to you I do t know anything about the 8 meter

Take bugymangp up on that offer. He will be one of the only folks that can get that thing right again.
Undoing all your bridles was a big mistake IMHO. I only ever work 1 side at a time so the other remains as reference.

Your Ace should have been bridled like an early generation Blade. That is what Pansh copied. The manual shows the groupings but does not specify lengths.

Yikes!
Take bugymangp up on his offer. He is a trusted member here. Where do you reside JADH ?

The 2000's came out in 1998 99 can't go up wind like a race kite
But it's a. Very forgiven kite doesn't power up in a instant doesn't make
Lift I have 2 full sets 2002 to 2005 I must have 1000's of hours on mine
And they still fly great

Undoing your bridles completely was a mistake.
If your kite flew OK then spun it was most likely a simple brake issue on that side.
I only ever work one side at a time. That leaves the other as reference. When you get stuck send it to bugymangp. He will get it flying right and is making a generous offer.

Did your Ace EVER fly right? Pansh kites have a history. You won't likely get support from them?
Your Ace is gathered like an old Blade 2. The kite they copied. You can see the pattern in the manual but no lengths mentioned.

Hey everyone

Thank you for all the replies.
Regarding the bridles, as I was going through the kite, the secondary bridles are all in different orders and far from a mirror image.
I took it to a local shop, the owner wasnt to sure himself, after much time managed to come to some set up, but ran out of time to fly, aim is to fly today and see how it goes.

Thank you for very much for the offer bugymangp, may well take you up on the offer, depending how I get on today ! Where in the world are you ? Im in the UK.

Planning to tackle the pansh today, will seek out blad specs ! fingers crossed.

Good luck with the kite hope you can get it to fly
I'm on the east coast USA New Jersey

Quote: Originally posted by markite

quadrifoil - the last owner being Active People - hasn't been in business for many years. original quatrefoil designer (Ted Doherty) I think still makes kites but he had nothing to do with Competition or Q200 series

So Mark, which one did I end up with?
I was thinkin a 4.?



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