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[*] posted on 26-5-2007 at 09:04 PM
Caffeine Longboard with 12”ers


Hello all,

I got a chance to try out my new custom Caffeine Longboard today.

The 13 ply Baltic Birch deck provides a smooth ride :thumbup:

The 12" tires really make my local fields fun - the 8"ers are just too small for rough fields.

I think a board design like this is perfect for cruising and getting basic air (too long & bulky for rotations). I still need to find out how fast I can go without getting speed wobbles with the skate trucks.

A slight bit of camber was added - The deck is flat (no concave). I'll post the weight when I get a chance.

Here are a few pics:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/DaVinch/CIMG0393.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/DaVinch/CIMG0389.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/DaVinch/CIMG0387.jpg



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[*] posted on 26-5-2007 at 11:17 PM


How well does it turn? Does it carve pretty well/smoothly

Been thinking about getting a flexboard but that caffeine looks pretty col too. let us know how you like it.

BTW, did you ever take the plunge and get a Dirtsurfer?



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[*] posted on 28-5-2007 at 11:36 AM


That's a pretty sexy board.
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[*] posted on 28-5-2007 at 02:05 PM


Thanks! It carves very nice - no problem getting upwind. I have only had it up to 20 mph on a bumpy grass field so far...

No 16" Dirtsurfer yet, however I still would like to try one out this Summer.



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[*] posted on 28-5-2007 at 02:07 PM


Looks like they will have the new 16" Freestyle GP by then too!



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[*] posted on 28-5-2007 at 07:53 PM


Sounds good Kiteboarder!

My board weighed in at 15 lbs - not bad considering the size.

Here's a picture next to a Core 8 deck:






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[*] posted on 28-5-2007 at 11:10 PM


Bigup to DaVinch for one bad ass board.
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[*] posted on 29-5-2007 at 11:04 AM


15lbs, wow. Everyone always talks about how heavy the DS is, but the freestlye only has 1 lb. on that caffeine board, and all but the most expensive boards are really noticeably lighter



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[*] posted on 29-5-2007 at 05:34 PM


You know, come to think of it,that caffeine board has the same shape as Gravity Longboards, just with mountainboard trucks mounted on top. I say this only because my buddy just picked uo a 56" Gravity Longboard.

Da V- any relation?



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Surfin\' the dirt on a 16\" Flexi Freestyle Dirtsurfer with Hookworms, MBS F3 bindings, Dakine stomppads, and a custom Trampa deck (my go to board)

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[*] posted on 29-5-2007 at 07:41 PM


Kiteboarder -

I crafted the board in my shop. It measures 49" long and 10" wide at the widest part. I would like to try a longer board next time.

I don't have any Gravity Longboards, but I highly recommend the Kracked Skulls M1. It is getting rave reviews over on the Silverfish forum.

As for the weight, it's not bad at all. A MBS Core 90 is 12 lbs and a Core 95 is 13.7 lbs - and these have much smaller wheels.

The Quadrolution weighs in at 26 lbs without the bindings :o

http://www.kitedeck.com/Quadrolution.htm



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[*] posted on 29-5-2007 at 07:48 PM


I should note that the Quadrolution uses Skyway Tuff Wheels with sealed bearings. I'm looking forward to trying these out on the next board.

http://www.skywaywheels.com/products_003.htm



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[*] posted on 29-5-2007 at 10:23 PM


Nice find! you see how much the graphite ones are? $275 a wheel!!!

Shot them an email on the cost of the colored tuff wheels, would look rockin' on my 'surfer

BTW, hat's off to your craftsmanship of the board. I want to do stuff like that so bad, but alas I have not the tools (luckily I have the skills for a later time)

So have you had a chance to get a feel for the trucks being on top? Does it make the ride noticeably different?



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Surfin\' the dirt on a 16\" Flexi Freestyle Dirtsurfer with Hookworms, MBS F3 bindings, Dakine stomppads, and a custom Trampa deck (my go to board)

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[*] posted on 30-5-2007 at 06:02 AM


Nice creation, DaVinch. That's looking like a smooth ride. If you ever took it out to the dessert you'd be flying on that thing.



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[*] posted on 18-8-2007 at 08:32 PM


Well - I just was informed that there is a skateboard company already called Caffeine Skateboards. Sorry about that!

I'll have to come up with a new name for any future mountainboard decks...



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[*] posted on 10-11-2007 at 11:37 PM
Davinch, still using this board?


I like the idea of bigger wheels. I had a few questions. One, where did you find the 12" wheels/tires and what trucks did you put on?.

2, I noticed that the trucks are cleverly placed upside down to keep low for balance. Anyway, I was worried about the stress on the screws/trucks since all the weight is hanging on the mounting screws rather that resting on the trucks and stabilized/mounted with the screws like regular boards.

Anyway, was wondering how it has held up and if you have tried other mods, and where you found the wheels/tires that would mount on the trucks.
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[*] posted on 11-11-2007 at 06:59 PM


Hello bourck,

I got the wheels here:

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/produc...

They have held up pretty well so far. I used the board some, but since I switched over to the Dirtsurfer, I haven't used it much.

The trucks are standard MBS Skate trucks:

http://www.mbs.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idProduct=23

No problems with the hardware so far.

Hope this helps!

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[*] posted on 11-11-2007 at 08:31 PM


hey did you notice any problems with the difference in size of the wheel hub and the MBS trucks. I noticed that the trucks use a 9.5mm axle and those wheels say they have a 1/2in opening. just wondering if this caused any problems or if you sleeved the axle. I have a board setup with the same wheels called a mountain skate but the trucks it came with suck so I'm looking to get the mbs trucks and do the same thing you did.



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[*] posted on 11-11-2007 at 08:44 PM


Hello nwsurf - I made up some bushings to make the wheels fit the axle.

I noticed they sell the brass bushings at Home Depot (or Maynards) also.



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[*] posted on 9-2-2008 at 03:53 PM


I bought one of these from DaVinch recently and just picked up the wheels and bushings today. Wind was about 10mph building to 18 mph and I had a blast. I haven't been on a skateboard in over 30 years, so I was pretty shakey out there. I was surprised that my little 1 meter 2 line trainer kite was able to move my weight (250 lbs). Had to sine the heck out of it, but it worked! Now I need to find a small Peter Lynn which I think would work soo much better.

Thanks DaVinch, love the board. Works perfect on the hard packed sand here!
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[*] posted on 9-2-2008 at 06:07 PM


Great - I'm really happy to hear that it's working for you!

How did the deck feel for your weight?



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[*] posted on 9-2-2008 at 07:01 PM


I have been begging my dad to get a land/kite board for me to use but he thinks it is too expensive. How much money do you save by making your own.



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[*] posted on 9-2-2008 at 08:39 PM


I think it's hard to beat just buying a complete board.

However, building a deck could save you some money if you have the tools and time.



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[*] posted on 10-2-2008 at 04:33 AM


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Great - I'm really happy to hear that it's working for you!

How did the deck feel for your weight?

Fine. But since I haven't skateboarded for so long I didn't feel comfortable with the bindings on. So I'm going to pull them off for now and maybe add a few non-skid strips. Since the beach is almost perfectly smooth, I think that'll work fine until I get back into the swing of things.

What surprised me most is that I was going pretty well with just my 1 meter Airush trainer. That kite won't fly upwind at all, but once I started getting a bit of speed going it actually worked fairly well. Now I need a small depowerable kite for this. I've got a 5 m Best Waroo I may try next.
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[*] posted on 10-2-2008 at 01:13 PM


So if I had the right tools then It wold be cheaper to make your own



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[*] posted on 10-2-2008 at 01:23 PM


Sure - and maybe you can find some used bindings, trucks and wheels also.

I used the Toothless method (3 ply of 1/4" Baltic Birch) for bigkahuna's deck:

http://users.pandora.be/Toothless/Toothless/pages/instructio...



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[*] posted on 10-2-2008 at 01:33 PM


my dad was saying to save up my money and look for bindings and trucks on ebay and go buy a sheet of ply wood. then we can cut the board out. sounds easy enough:rolleyes:


Some self assembly required



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[*] posted on 12-3-2009 at 04:08 PM


:cool: that is awsome it is just what i have ben looking for

would the ply or planking from home depot work here like it does for the plyboards in kite surfing

If So what thickness

I know it has been a while for this topic but i plan on building at least three similar boards
and was wondering if you could hold more of an edge with this set up or what i am trying to say is will it go upwind better than a production mountain board:cool2:



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[*] posted on 12-3-2009 at 09:19 PM


Looking_Up, go for some real baltic birch.

3/4" or glue three 1/4"ers together using the toothless method.



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[*] posted on 12-3-2009 at 09:23 PM


How is that for sliding? Do your toes ever hit the tires?



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[*] posted on 12-3-2009 at 09:32 PM


Never slid it and never had toe bite.

I don't have it anymore, but maybe I'll try building another cruiser soon. It was a smooth ride.



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