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[*] posted on 18-7-2007 at 06:31 AM
A few questions


Hello. Do you need a large kite to do 2 wheel tricks? I've got a 3m and i've been on 2 wheels but i doubt i'll be able to stay there.

Also, i've just added my foot straps to the pegs, is it better to launch in the buggy with my feet in, because it's hard sometimes to do it with no hands.

And another thing. I still don't understand tacking. Does anyone have a video with it being done?

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[*] posted on 18-7-2007 at 05:20 PM


If you feel comfortable, you can easily launch sitting in the bug with your feet in the straps. Your buggy should be set up however so that you can easily sit down in it and get your feet in and out of the straps without much fuss or the use of your hands, anything too tight will be hard to get your feet out of in the case of an OBE



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[*] posted on 18-7-2007 at 05:52 PM


I'm just learning the 2 wheel but when I asked for advice I was told it's important to be very powered when pulling the move. I was also told it's easier to learn it powered on a big kite but I'm sure it can be done in a big wind with a 3. Probably NOT the safest way to learn that trick though.
If you haven't got them dialed then working on your spins with a 3m makes more sense ?

A tack is just the path you take in any given direction. If you tack upwind then you are moving upwind on some angle. Then you would turn and take another tack across the wind. It's a nautical term.



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[*] posted on 18-7-2007 at 09:13 PM


Strictly speaking, a tack in sailing is an upwind turn, whilst a jibe or a gybe is a downwind turn.

Tacking is usually also used to describe the multiple turns you have to make in a zig zag fashion to make progress up wind, since as you've probably found out you can travel a narrow angle up into the wind and to travel a distance up into the wind you have to travel at a narrow angle and when you run out of space turn and continue at a narrow angle up into the wind going in the opposite direction, and so on.

Wikipedia has a couple of lengthy articles on tacking and jibing - the tacking page shows going upwind in a sailing boat but this diagram shows obviously a much more aggressive upwind angle than you'll achieve with a kite and a buggy.

To start with turns in order to travel upwind you'll find downwind/jibe turns significantly easier, and this is the turn that most buggiers do because it's relatively easy. Tack turns in a buggy should only be attempted once you're pretty confident in your buggy and with your kite since you'll have to move the lines over your head as you turn up into the wind- hard to describe unless you actually see someone do it. If you ever see buggiers racing then you'll see a few people doing tack turns because you lose less ground against your competitors when turning up into the wind than turning downwind.

This site has some info and diagrams on tacking and gybing in a buggy.

THis site also has animated diagrams for jibe and tack.



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[*] posted on 19-7-2007 at 02:26 AM


I think i can picture it but it doesn't seem like it'd give you much more room. When the buggy is facing towards the wind, does it immediately turn? This is hard to explain, i'm sure youtube has some racing videos.

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If you haven't got them dialed then working on your spins with a 3m makes more sense ?


Got what dialed? Spin what? What bigger kite do you recommend if i decide to get one? It wouldn't be for jumping.



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[*] posted on 19-7-2007 at 06:08 PM


Holy Smoke,
I'm a Prarie boy and somehow got it in my head that a tack was the upwind path and the jibe was the turn ( up or downwind ) at a young age. I've gone along thinking that forever and gotten away with it :duh: Sorry for the misinformation.
By spins I mean 180 and 360' spins of the buggy.
If I'm on track with the 2 wheelin' , the idea is to be powered up. The size of kite you need to be riding powered is relative to the wind speed. If you are totally powered on the 3 it's probably pretty windy ? A 5m in lesser winds would probably be a little less consiquential, a 7 in lower winds should be even better for learning ? ? ?



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[*] posted on 19-7-2007 at 07:39 PM


No, you don't NEED a larger wing to two wheel...

here's a tip to try... sit in your buggy #@%$#! the buggy up on two wheels and try to balance it.... sure you get dumped over after a few seconds but the more you try the longer you'll stay balance ... find were your comfortable to place your weight against the side rail .... use the front wheel to lock in a stance, use counter balance:puzzled: judo kick {Leg over} down tube to help off set tip-overs......

Now your set to use any size wing from the largest to the smallest ........cause you got skills :ninja:





Whatcha .. need foot straps for? buggy jumping:?: if you got to ask then your probably not ready for them, it be better that you build your skills first instead of getting hurt by cool
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my point is.. learn the fundamentals by being a skilled pilot first{ the less you have... the less you have to worry about} and focus on the basic, once your comfortable to 2 wheel, spins and going backwards and what tack means then add the foot straps
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[*] posted on 19-7-2007 at 11:10 PM


I actually feel more safer with straps :P. There's been many times where my feet have come off and i've lost control. BTW, a fundamental is spinning and 2 wheeling?

I can power slide, and that's what a 180 is isn't it, except you go backwards. The only thing i'm wary of is turning at high speed. One time i did that i was pulled out and up a few meters.



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