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question.gif posted on 8-8-2007 at 08:54 AM
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Hi to all; I'm looking for a power kite that I can fly for the remainder of the season to use as a trainer for land boarding or maybe kite boarding. Obviously I'll need another type of kite if I choose to kite board but that's down the road and besides, having one too many kites has never happened to me. I have competently flown dual line stunt kites in the past but I would like to add a new dimension to my kite flying and thought this would be a good avenue. I have talked to a few people and they have recommended to me that I look at the Ozone IMP Quattro or the HQ Beemer III. Both are quad lines which would be new to me and sounds very interesting. So do any of these kites sound like a good starting point and what size should I look at. If not what else should I look at?

BTW: I'm 5'11" 210lbs and my flying conditions around here are 5~15 mph and can be gusty at times.

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[*] posted on 8-8-2007 at 09:45 AM


Those are both good choices. I think you would want a 3 meter kite to get started. It will fly well and produce some usable power in your winds. Smaller will fly but you won't get much of a feel for power with one.



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[*] posted on 8-8-2007 at 12:30 PM


get a sheetable trainer if you're serious about proper learning for kitesurfing/kiteboarding.

a 2 line on a bar teaches you almost nothing.... a 4 line on handles is only a bit better, but a sheetable / depowerable trainer kite enables you to learn exactly what its like on a larger depower kite : using your body weight, learning how/when to power up, relaunch, etc....

PM me for more specifics on what we can offer y'all.



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[*] posted on 11-8-2007 at 02:09 PM


Good info from all,,, I started out with the 3 meter Beamer III and I like it as you can see that I purchased two others since then. The price is good and they seem to be very dependable.. All set up and ready to fly.



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Montana 4 9.5
Beamer III 5 meter
Beamer 4 meter
Beamer III 3 meter x (3)
Beamer III 2 meter X (3)
Ted\'s Foils Pro-foil 1.5 meter
Van \"Black Widow\" Buggy
Peter lynn Big Foot Buggy
Blokart 4 meter sail
Ted\'s Foils Pro-foil 1 meter
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[*] posted on 11-8-2007 at 03:23 PM


2.5 or 3.5 Flexi Rage are good starter kites!
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[*] posted on 11-8-2007 at 07:44 PM


Thanks for all the replies. I believe that I'll look at two I had mentioned earlier and the Flexi Rage.

Joecat how is the wind were you fly, smooth, gusty, and how smooth of a flyer is the Beemer III? BTW what control system are you using with your board?
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[*] posted on 11-8-2007 at 08:43 PM


My advice is to stay away from race kites. They do not do well in gusty winds. You might want to check out the pkd brooze that is getting passed around the forum members. They do well in gusty winds and you can try before you buy.

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[*] posted on 12-8-2007 at 09:47 AM


Hey NorthWest, I am located on the Jersey Shore, Wildwood, most of the time the wind is smooth and steady and the Beamer III handles real well. They fly real nice. I had my 5 meter out last week and it was smooth, slow and powerful. As I said I like them, I have found and everyone says that the Beamers that I have don't produce alot of Lift, which I am Not looking for, I have them for the static flying and more important to me is for Buggying. My 2 and 3 meters kites of course move faster but still smooth.



My Kite Bag:
Montana 4 9.5
Beamer III 5 meter
Beamer 4 meter
Beamer III 3 meter x (3)
Beamer III 2 meter X (3)
Ted\'s Foils Pro-foil 1.5 meter
Van \"Black Widow\" Buggy
Peter lynn Big Foot Buggy
Blokart 4 meter sail
Ted\'s Foils Pro-foil 1 meter
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[*] posted on 12-8-2007 at 11:11 AM


Hi Joe

I am arriving in Wildwood crest tomorrow afternoon (monday) for about 5-6 days with family.

There is also Stephane, a guy from montreal, who will be there at the same time with his family. I am suppose to meet him. Stephane runs a small Kite online shop in Montreal. He carries HQ powerkites for the winter, and Eclipse kites for the summer.

We might go kiting on the beach after 5PM if possible, or in Stone Harbor (inside the bay). I got that spot on kitebeaches.com

go see your PM, l left my cell

buzz



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[*] posted on 13-8-2007 at 09:03 AM


Hey Buzz, That sounds good, I will hit you up on the cell phone. It looks like the wind is good today. Had the 3 meter out yesterday with about 15 mph winds, scudding about 10 feet.. Good times.



My Kite Bag:
Montana 4 9.5
Beamer III 5 meter
Beamer 4 meter
Beamer III 3 meter x (3)
Beamer III 2 meter X (3)
Ted\'s Foils Pro-foil 1.5 meter
Van \"Black Widow\" Buggy
Peter lynn Big Foot Buggy
Blokart 4 meter sail
Ted\'s Foils Pro-foil 1 meter
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[*] posted on 18-8-2007 at 09:38 PM


Hi Joe

Just got back from wildwood. I got your message on monday but I got there too late to go on the beach at craucus corner.

I went on that spot the next day (tuesday) around 4h30-5PM. Not enough room to landboard with the crowd, so I did some static with a 4m.

On wednesday, I went surfkiting to Stone Harbour. Not enough room there to landboard, but great spot for surfkiting. There were about 10 kiters over there. It was blowing +20knots

amazing wind the whole week. is it always like that in august. last year I went in july, and I don't rember so much windy days???

may be see you next year.
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[*] posted on 3-10-2007 at 07:45 PM


Well after allot of reading and meeting with some shop owners I have decided to go with a Flexifoil Rage 3.5m.

Thanks to all and I’ll let everyone know how it goes.
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[*] posted on 3-10-2007 at 07:52 PM


if your goal is to kitesurf, you'll eventually go with a depower kite. Closed cells like flysurfer can do the job on snow, land and water.



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[*] posted on 4-10-2007 at 02:45 PM


Try a 3.5m² ProFoil...!!!



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[*] posted on 14-5-2008 at 09:42 AM


It has been a long time since I posted but better late then never.

The 3.5 Rage has been lots of fun and was a great choice as a beginner Traction Kite. Good power that deserved respect in the right wind but not so much as you’re afraid to fly it for the fear of getting pounded by a rookie mistake. I have since bought the 4.7, and 2.5 Rage to add to my bag to increase my wind range. As a little bonus I made a little extra purchase of a 2.4 Sting to get the wife into the sport as well. Makes it allot easier to get out and fly when you can get the other half wanting to tag along.

Anyway, I’m off to the coast for a 2wk vacation in June so it should be a good time. Thanks for all the help
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