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Sthrasher38
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No wind!!!
Man I am tired of waiting for the wind! Thoughs on a low wind baby please. In a
range from around 3 mph to 8mph. I am stuck in a fu@#$%# hole here and it driving me crazy. I get four days a month with good enough wind to fly and
half of those days are really gusty and cant fly anyway. wind in Oregon wind in San francisco. next to nothing here. Oh 7 mph. so I am stuck in the
house. No time after work to drive anywhere to get to the wind So my only option is to get bigger kites.Sorry for all the crying but nobody around
here understands. I need to adjust my quiver a bit to stay flying no matter what the wind is!!! So sizes would be nice I would like to stay with the lift. Not to snatchy. A good static flyer, buggy and board puller. I weigh 220. And
the kites I have now are fixed bridle. But I am willing to try different things if need be. Someone please help.
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Pdxnebula
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I had the same problem with my Biggest kite being my RushII 250, until the "Buster" 9.0mē showed up, now NP, it goes up in next to no wind...
Also the closest park is not much bigger than a football field & trees all around it, So I have to deal with all the wind shadows, but once I get
the "Buster" 9.0mē above 100', its happy to just sit there, with hardly any wind & just tug away...
56\"Thunderfoil:
72\"Thunderfoil(quadline):
HQ RushII 250:
ProFoil 1.5mē,3.5mē:
PKD\"Buster\" 9.0mē
8\' Delta Coyne:
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lunchbox
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I also have a problem with light winds and wind shadows in my local park. My bullet 4.5 is my go to kite when it's blowing between 8-16mph. I'd like
to be able to go on the landboard when it's only 5-6mph and I had a bullet 7.0 but it was just too big and slow to move around the window and the
winds here have so many 'holes'...you can't just park it...soon as you do, the wind drops or there's a lull.
Pbx - Do you have steady winds so you can just park the kite or is the buster 9 really fast through the window?
Bottom line - what type of kite do I get for these conditions if it's blowing < 7mph?
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beachrights
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Not to boast but.... tomorrows forecast here on Cape Cod:
THE WORST OF THE WIND WILL BE FELT ON THE OUTER CAPE AND NANTUCKET LATE SATURDAY MORNING THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. SUSTAINED WINDS WILL INCREASE TO 40 TO
50 MPH WITH GUSTS AS HIGH AS 85 MPH POSSIBLE
that is a direct cut and paste from The Weather Channel
I guess Teds Kite Innovations 1.0 meter I have will get some airtime!!
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Flexifoil bullets 2.5- 3.5 mine, can\'t have it!
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Pdxnebula
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Be Careful in those winds with that little kite, their like trying to hold onto a "MAD HORNET" when they get to screaming at those wind
speeds...
56\"Thunderfoil:
72\"Thunderfoil(quadline):
HQ RushII 250:
ProFoil 1.5mē,3.5mē:
PKD\"Buster\" 9.0mē
8\' Delta Coyne:
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Sthrasher38
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Ok, So far a 9m Buster.
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Pablo
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http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/targo88/Pabs13M-1.jpg...
Something along these lines if you can swing it. Pictured is a 13m Century, but any race type kite will do great. The high aspect, high efficiency
makes them wicked in low winds. Sadly anything good enough to buggy with in low winds will probably totally bite for flying static. Usually they're
dogs, but in a buggy you can park and ride, that's putting the kite at one side of the window, then just follow it all the way across the park.
The 10.3m Combat is making enough power to get a decent ride out of in 5-8mph winds with some fun involved, So far I think JEllis has the biggest sail
out this way with his 16m RM+, Gonna have to break down and get the 15.4m Combat to keep up.
Someone got a smoking deal on the 13m Century as well, keep your eyes open, something will come up.
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0.7m / 1.4m / 2.0m PKD Buster I
4.4m PKD Buster
10m JoJo RM+
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Sthrasher38
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My god! that looks like a paraglider! Is that a fixed bridle or depower? Does it have a crossover? are crossovers for depower or to help with tip
collapse?
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Pablo
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Fixed bridal kite on handles, that's the 13m Century. Only mod was pulley handles to get more movement on the brake lines with pully handles(thanks
Jon)
Cross over bridal helps the large kites with turning. Cross over bar feeds in brake input for you on a bar when you turn using the mains allowing for
faster turning large foils.
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0.7m / 1.4m / 2.0m PKD Buster I
4.4m PKD Buster
10m JoJo RM+
6m Flysurfer Outlaw
12m Ozone Access
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Pdxnebula
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Thinking of modifying my handles to pulleys with the 9.0m, I've only got 13-14" handles, Rings could do the same as true pulleys???
56\"Thunderfoil:
72\"Thunderfoil(quadline):
HQ RushII 250:
ProFoil 1.5mē,3.5mē:
PKD\"Buster\" 9.0mē
8\' Delta Coyne:
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Pablo
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Yup, used rings for a couple months before getting pulleys, most hardware stores carry cheap pullys for under $5 as well.
The brakes aren't really taking a lot of strain, just use some decent line for the brake leaders and the rings should be fine.
Sysmic S1 Buggy.
0.7m / 1.4m / 2.0m PKD Buster I
4.4m PKD Buster
10m JoJo RM+
6m Flysurfer Outlaw
12m Ozone Access
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Mikey17
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Pdxnebula
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Think I'd need a "BIG" indoor stadium for a 9.0mē, & probably be running my butt off...
56\"Thunderfoil:
72\"Thunderfoil(quadline):
HQ RushII 250:
ProFoil 1.5mē,3.5mē:
PKD\"Buster\" 9.0mē
8\' Delta Coyne:
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BeamerBob
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I can't believe a foil can do that. And he isn't running like a rabid dog either!
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lunchbox
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gotta say, I was kinda impressed with that video myself...Thought about trying it with my bullet in no wind but then I decided to continue watching
football :wink2:
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Blade IV 6.5, Nasa Star 3 7.0, PL Vapor 7.8, JoJo RX 8.0 (in route), Flexifoil Blade VIP 8.5, PL Vapor 9.4, Ozone Yakuza 10.0, PL Reactor II 10.8, PL
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landboard, PL Folding buggy, PL XR+ buggy, Slingshot LFT, Lots of surfboards
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DAKITEZ
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that video was impressive, but if I just want to fly I'll pull out a stunt kite. I got into the big boy kites to get pulled about.
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Sthrasher38
where in Cali are you ? you must be by me in the Sac area, because i haven't had any wind here lately either.
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torture pure and simple.....they should outlaw no wind days...I remember last year this time was blowing a lot..thats when I started this
addiction.....now I am officially jones-ing like a junky...and I got all prepared for high winds with the 1.5 and my 2 m legend on a short leash of 50
ft heavy draggy paracord....it works great for those high wind days.....but now they are all as good as sleeping bags tossed in the air.......but here
is my question...how easy is it so sew a NPW9 like a 15 meter or something for easy inflation, and could you do it from one piece of fabric?
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Sthrasher38
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Dlish89, Yea I am close I live in Marysville. Just north of Sac. And yea there has been nothing in the way of wind at all!!! We will have to get together some time to fly.
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Pablo
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Big kites, they'll fly in anything over 2mph, so if you can feel a breeze on your face you're in business, 3-4mph and you're well powered. Very few
low wind days IMO
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4.4m PKD Buster
10m JoJo RM+
6m Flysurfer Outlaw
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Sthrasher38
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Big kites as in 10m and up?
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DAKITEZ
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Sthrasher38 for sure we will have to hook up if the wind ever blows ! I will send u a u2u. Plus I just got my npw5 today so I want to try it, though
I'm not very impressed with it. You get what you pay for is definately the case here.
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Sthrasher38
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COOL!!
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Pablo
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Quote: | Originally posted by Sthrasher38
Big kites as in 10m and up? |
Yuppers,
It'll blow your mind if you get around kiters that have been doing it for years just how much power they go out with on a daily basis.
A general rule of thumb, if you can't scudd for a min of 5-10ft you're underpowered, Fun starts when you can hear your lines screaming for mercy. If
they've never been humming you've never been truly lit.
Sysmic S1 Buggy.
0.7m / 1.4m / 2.0m PKD Buster I
4.4m PKD Buster
10m JoJo RM+
6m Flysurfer Outlaw
12m Ozone Access
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Pdxnebula
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I've had all my line sing to me, except for on the 9.0mēso far... I've been Underpowered, except for the day the kite arrived, today was more
like me Flying the Kite to keep it in the air rather than it WANTING & Able to fly wihout my help keeping it moving, which is tough for a Bus, in
0-1-2-3-4 mph on again/off again wind...
56\"Thunderfoil:
72\"Thunderfoil(quadline):
HQ RushII 250:
ProFoil 1.5mē,3.5mē:
PKD\"Buster\" 9.0mē
8\' Delta Coyne:
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Mikey17
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last time i heard my lines sing i ripped my shorts and almost broke my arm. oh yeah, and i had to chase my kite down the field because it ripped my 9
inch stack out the floor! :o (lesson learn't !)
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Quote: |
A general rule of thumb, if you can't scudd for a min of 5-10ft you're underpowered, Fun starts when you can hear your lines screaming for mercy. If
they've never been humming you've never been truly lit. |
That is a great way to figure out if you have enough kite. I always wondered how you knew without years of habit and experience.
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HQ Montana X 8m, Montana IX 12m, HQ Ignition LEI 5m,
PL Phantom 12m, 15m, Big Blu 24m+, Synergy 10m, Venom 10m, 13m , Phantom II 12m Vapors 3.8, 5.4, Crosskite Sonic 7m, PKD Combat 10.3m
Uturn Butane 2.5m PKD Buster 3m Genetrix Hydra 7m Ozone Yakuza GT 14m
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Khooke seems pretty happy with his Pansh Blaze 12.5. It's odd he hasn't answered. See his previous review. He could speak to it's lumpy wind abilaty.
I've only seen it on the beach.
I know he was riding in some low winds the day we met. Too low for my 9m Blade.
I just love the graphics on the Blaze and in 12.5 it's even cooler looking !
Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
Flysurfer : 19m Speed 2 SA, 7m Pulse
Peter Lynn :18m Phantom, 15m Synergy, 10m Synergy, 1200 Farc, 460 Sarc, 130 Tarc, 5m Peel, 4.2m , 6.4, 8.5 C-Quads, 3.5 LS2 single skin.
Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .
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Pdxnebula
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The Winds here in SE (PDX=Portland) OR. comes & goes in small to big gusts & lots of lulls, so its a mish mash of different winds at
my Main nearby flying spot...
But out Next to the PDX Airport(Next to the big, Columbia River)actually at the west end of the Main northern runway, the wind is always steadier
there, yet even there you get lulls, just NOT as bad as further inland away from the River...
Plus If I had 1 set of 150' lines for ANY kite, they would be to long for my dinky nearby park, so I have even less area to work with just because of
the Wind shadows at the park with all the trees surrounding it...
So for close by its a matter, of the wind forcast being precise & high enough, steady enough, to use my 100' lines & stay above all the Junky
air in the park...
56\"Thunderfoil:
72\"Thunderfoil(quadline):
HQ RushII 250:
ProFoil 1.5mē,3.5mē:
PKD\"Buster\" 9.0mē
8\' Delta Coyne:
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Sthrasher38
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I love to hear my line sing but, I fly most of the time underpowered mostly due to lack of wind. Thanks. Looking for a bigger kite
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