Hi everyone, can anyone help me I have been flying kites for a couple of months using a radsail 3m great kite to learn with. Then i got board so i have bought a pansh 6m WOW:D what a kite , the problem i have is that when i bring it to the top of the window to walk it back it stalls and falls out of the sky :flaming:. Also i have seen people using bars instead of handles does anyone know of any i can buy without braking the bank. I have attached a clip of what happens sorry about the trouser you can slid well with them. 15mph wind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua88LJShN9k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6AS2-BkREI
If these links do not work look me up on youtube and check out the video there. stevie795.

first thing that came to mind, adjust the break lines so they are loose.

How do you adjust them and if i do that i will not be able to brake in strong winds. on big kite are bars better because i have seen poeple useing them in strong wind and makeing it look easy. Did you watch the clips. and please advise me as s@#ting myself or does it come with pratice.:puzzled:

Both kites do the same thing (front stall)? I don't own Radsail and maybe other owners can help you better but if only one of them showing that problem, you might want to compare bridle length ratios between those two.

i have been useing the same handles and line of the pansh 6m for both kites i have no problem with the radsail 3m you take it to the top of the window and stays there i can even fly with both handles in one hand, as for the pansh .
Is there any site that my help me as i have no idea about the lines ect.

I would have to say its the opposite of backstalling, its actually overflying. Basically, when you bring it up to the top of the wind window, above your head, it has to much speed and goes past your head and then the leading edge collapses.

To stop this, when you bring the kite up above your head, tap on the brakes lightly, so it doesn't go way over you head.

About the radsail not overflying, its a lot more stable of a kite, and therefore sits at the top of the wind window. Also, like leebrianh said, if the brake bridle lengths are longer or shorter than the ace, the brake lines can be either shorter or longer on one of the kites.

To adjust the brake line length, sometimes there are multiple knots along the brake bridle attachement pigtails. Move the brake lines up and down to tighten/ loosen respectively, making sure both sides are the same. I have flown an Ace, but fortget if they have this.

Lacking this, adjust the brakes at the handles. To make the brakes looser, tie knots in the main line leaders (tops) coming out of the handles, about an inch or two closer to the handles and move the larks head attachment in the main lines there. Making the main lines tighte of course makes the brakes effectively looser.
To tighten the brakes on the Ace, as it looks like you might want to in higher winds, make the new knots on the brake line leaders coming out of the handles, also an inch or two closer to the handles and move the larks head to those.
Often, depending on the kite, I find myself tighenting brake lines in higher winds and loosening them in light winds (or it won't take off, climb well or is sluggish). When the bottom skin of the kite is puckered when you try to launch, you know the brakes are too tight.

Of course you could be scaring the kite with those pants! ;-). But I'll have to say they look practical for skudding in the grass.

I agree with Baluk the kite is overflying lightly tap the brakes like he said. From your videos it looks like you have a good place to fly. Are you lucky enough to live in one of those houses there, so all you have to do is walk outside ? Also please be careful with your daughter walking around you while flying. I'm trying to teach my daugters to always stay behind me if they are around when I'm flying. Anyway just try tapping the brakes alittle to keep it from flying over your head and you should be fine.

Yes. One other thing. If you do a jump, and you land, turn the kite to keep it moving, because if you don't most likely you'll get slack on the lines and it will collapse aswell.

Cheers for the advise and yes i live there but the wind is very gusty from the houses. I think i shall take it and fly it with a pro from the power kite shop around the corner.

Any luck?

NO WIND :flaming: