Waroo's without the bar are getting so cheap I'm thinking of picking up a 7. At least until I can afford a pulse.

Can someone tell me exactly what is different about the Waroo's bar and a standard 4 line ? I'm thinking the travel + the way the safety attaches ? If I'm right all the pulley magic happens up at the bridle ? Is there a way to Mod. a bar like say my O.R. punch out to a Bow Bar ? In my mind I must just replace the line through the bar to an adjustable one like in the Waroo's bar. Maybe a clam cleat or something ??? Or just set it for what the most popular length is and live with it ??

Anyone with a Bow bar they want to unload at a reasonable price ?

On a bow kite bar the back lines run through pulleys on the side of the bar and connect to a ring in the center above the bar. The front lines and the trim strap are also attached to the ring. I have flown my Liquid force Assault on a Turbo Deisel bar and it worked fine, better even.
I think the difference between a normal bar and a bow kite bar is the travel. With a normal bar you might not have all your depower.
The slingshot bar has the clamcleat between the bar and the chicken loop. It also has an insane amount of adjustment and because it is a normal clam cleat it makes adjusting the kite super easy.
I have only flown Naish, Liquid Force and Slingshot, and the Slingshot bar is the simpelest and best hands down. My own kites are Liquid Force, but if I was going to copy one it would be the Slingshot, that way you could use the shorter stroke on a normal bar to semi-depower the kite, and if you got in trouble just pull the adjustment rope out of the clam cleat to totally depower the kite if you had to.
Try to find a picture of the Slingshot bar and you will see what I mean.

Hope this helps and wasn't to confusing. Jon

The bars I have available are a short airush and a longer / better Ocean Rodeo punch out.

From looking at the Waroo manual it would appear I could pull it off by purchasing the waroo specific ( wider range ) trim strap. @ $66 it's not too bad. If I'm on track I could blow the extra $30 and get the 07 adjustable stopper set-up as well ???
I think the pulleys you talk about are part of the bridle on a Waroo ???

Is it just that simple ?

Both the Liquid Force and the Slingshot use the pulleys on the bar to double the travel distance of the bar. The back lines run through the pulleys on the bar to the front lines so that when you pull the bar 6 inches you shorten the back lines and lengthen the front ones.
Both these kites have pulleys on the bridle as well. The bridle pulleys are also connected between the front and back lines, but exactly what they do is a mystery to me.
One thing that occured to me is that the wind range on my 12 meter is from about 20 km/h to 55 km/h. In 20 km/h it just flies and I have to sheet the bar all the way in. If I let the bar out one or two inches the kite totally depowers and falls. I only flew it in 50 km/h winds once but it was just the opposite. At 50 km/h I only had the last inch of travel with the bar sheeted out to depower.
The point is with a seven meter if you fly it at the lower end of the wind range less bar travel will make it easier to fly because you dont need that much bar travel in the lower end, but in higher winds you wont be able to depower.
All three kites (Naish, Liquid Force and Slingshot ) have about 12 to 15 inches of bar travel.
Hope that helps a bit. Jon

Yes, Now I get why you refered to the pulley bar. I'm just sizing up my options right now. If a 7 Waroo I'm watching is too tempting I think I see what I'll need to do for a bar now. From my bit of looking I should be able to buy the 07 upgrade strap from Best for about $99 and throw it on my old bar if I go that route.
Thanks!!