Okay, I may be new to this but I'm pretty sure I know enough to know that after all my monkeying around today in steady 15km/h wind that this Ace 7 WON'T FLY. I tried everything from equal lines to all but untied brakes and it seems to just not want to go. Once it does go up the tips are curled right in so much that I can clearly read the word "Pansh". Oddly, if it opens up wide once it's up she's a monster powerhouse....until it just sinks back down as though I had applied the brakes.

Any thoughts? Is there a way I check through the bridles? Are there measurements posted? Maybe I should look to the Pansh Ace Mods department (I saw tons of them here or at racekites).

Any advice? It can't be irrepairable, can it? I just really want to fly it and see what it's like - cuz I'm sure it's not a complete dog.

Or is it?

If it smells like a dog ?

Try undoing the back brakes all together and flying that way.

Hold the kite overhead just using your fingers on the front lines. If that seems to works / looks O.K. try playing with the brakes up close like that.

Seems Pansh is pretty good about exchanges ?

I'm pretty sure the breaks are too short. That's why it won't fly. Do what snowbird said.. fly it on two lines to see if it flies without breaks attacged

Check that the bridals are not crossed anywhere. I had one ace that had one bridal line crossing over a brake line. I had to undue the knot of lines and reroute it. I doubt thats it as it was very noticeable and I'm sure you would have seen that by now. I have a hard time believing its the bridals since it does inflate sometimes. I would think if it was the bridals it wouldn't work sometimes. Is it your location ? The ace really seems to like clean wind.

not that i am an expert or have even owned one, but it sounds like the bridle, check to see if their are any tangles or crossing of the lines, good luck and hope your flying soon

Macboy -

Can't figure why you'd get tip curl if the bridle was right on a 7m kite in 6-7 mph winds. I'm with the others about letting the brakes way out (off) and seeing if it helps.

Know this doesn't get your Ace flying, but the Brooza's are such great kites, why not go to your 7.5 and fly a really awesome kite?

krumly

Truly - the Brooza has won me over. I had brought the Ace out with me Saturday so that I could open it up and see what it was like....but only after I had my fill of flying the Brooza. Can't thank Pablo enough for such a great kite!

If your tips are curled, make sure that a segment of one of the tip bridles is not caught on the big stopper knot on the attachment toggle. Of course you are not likely going to duplicate that on a subsequent session, but it can happen from time to time. The big clunky knots on my Reactors can snag a bridle segment like a grappling hook and do weird things before I shake it out.

Otherwise, I agree about the brake lines.

Try the brake scenario and if its still no joy, email the company and ask for an exchange/refund. Looking at your quiver you have a 4m Rage and 7.5 Brooza, nice kites. If your looking for awesome lift and stability, get a refund on the Ace and buy the Blade IV 6.5 or Ripsessions 6.9 U Turn Nitro Evo!

The knots of the ace are definitely clunky. In my opinion, this is one of the last things that makes the pansh look like a cheap kite. They can hang up on each other and are so rough, they don't always shake out like a Reactor would. I have had to land and go do it by hand.

What you describe sounds like the brakes are still too tight. If the brakes are applying some tension, it just won't fly right. They have to droop loosely while flying. You have to have more than 6 mph to use the brakes to turn as well. In light winds, if you dab the brakes, it will kill the kite. Conversely, you don't have to worry about time in the power zone while turning in 6mph either.

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Originally posted by BeamerBob You have to have more than 6 mph to use the brakes to turn as well. In light winds, if you dab the brakes, it will kill the kite. Conversely, you don't have to worry about time in the power zone while turning in 6mph either.

I have seen that on my 4M Ace in low winds. In high winds the kite flys both of us.
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One thing I noticed before I set mine up was that the color of the leaders on the handles is counter-intuitive. For mine, blue is brakes, red is power. :puzzled: Since the power leader is a lot shorter, I can see how switching them might cause an issue.

If I remember correctly, mine are different than others have said on here. I think my powers are green and the brakes are red. That seems intuitive. I would prefer to have color difference between left and right to keep the handles in the proper hand.

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Originally posted by BeamerBob If I remember correctly, mine are different than others have said on here. I think my powers are green and the brakes are red. That seems intuitive. I would prefer to have color difference between left and right to keep the handles in the proper hand.

That's the way the sleeving on the lines are for mine. However the leaders from the handles are blue for brakes, red for power.

So the right way to set it up is to connect the line with the green sleeve to the red leader, and the line with the red sleeve to the blue leader.... Connecting the red sleeved line to the red part of the handle would cause the brakes to be way short, at best.

Yes my handle leaders are as you describe