I was thinking a Rage or Haka. maybe jojo rm. I don't have any experience with these and don't really know how they react So suggestions would be nice. I know my Bullet still wants to lift to much in the 10-15 mph range. So I am looking for something with stable power without lift So I can go fast without worring about getting popped out upon turn around I know most kites in certian conditions Can still lift I am just looking for someting solid and stable. Thanks. Maybe depower? Frenzy. Help. Anyone have one I can try?

The Haka will still have a bit of lift in it, may not be much of an issue because you are looking at the 3m but I am not sure if it would be the right one. I have a 3m demo if you get up to Vegas at all you are more than welcome to give it a go.

You might want to take a ride on the Yakuza. Awesome fast kite with less lift. The Yakuza comes in 2.7m and 3.4m sizes. I can also get you a demo on the Yakuza as well if interested.

I have a Yakuza 3.4m and it is very fast and is truly an awesome kite. In the right wind however it will lift your butt out of the buggy if you are not careful...I weigh about 220. A buddy of mine has the 2.7m and weights about 210. He has also been lifted out of his buggy in higher winds. If you pick up a Yak I can guarantee that you will not be unhappy with your purchase.

Sthrasher, where in CA are you located? Maybe we can hook up in Davis and you can try it out some day if you are interested. I live near Tahoe, but I work in Sac M-F.

I am about 30min from sac. we usually fly in davis. that would be great if I could try. Kent could you ship them to me? I will pay for shipping both ways. It could turn into a purchase. I won't be going back to vegas any time soon. Thanks for the offer and I would love to try if possiable. And very interested in a new kite right now I just need one with low lift. trying to go fast w/o obe's.