tridude
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FSer WAC settings vs speed
I thought I read somewhere about steering settings affecting speed. SSS faster/HSS slower. If this is correct, what exactly is going on with the kite
to induce this?:puzzled:
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I came across this in the Psycho 2 online manual. I believe it's what you are looking for:
STEERING-Mutation:
Optimal for: freestylers and beginners.
By increasing the green BRAKE trim line, the kite is depowered more in the
centre and is therefore steered more over the wingtips, like an inflatable
kite. The kite can't be powered up as much, has less back-stall and is
therefore easier to fly. The steering forces are harder and more defined.
-Advantage: less backstall.
harder and more defined steering forces.
-Disadvantage: less lift.
Optimal for: races.
By decreasing the green BRAKE trim line, the kite is powered up with the
entire surface like a classical soft kite. The kite can be powered up more,
but is therefore easier to back-stall by over-sheeting. The steering forces
are very soft.
-Advantage: more lift.
less bar steering forces.
-Disadvantage: more backstall.
If you think it\'s hard explaining HOW something works, try explaining WHY it doesn\'t work.
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Bladerunner
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Good to see you are doing your homework Joe. The original manual will be with the kite + a print out on the 5th line FDS.
Since you are a good study check the Pulse manual to see how the FDS upgrade works.
WAC and steering mutation are different. My Pulse only has WAC . No brake tip settings like the P2 ?
About the speed. I think it is where the kite sits in the window ????? When it hangs back you go faster but not as well upwind ???? Sort of like
tweeking the brakes for a power boost ????
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Kiteboarder2B
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I checked the Flysurfer site but the pdf for the Pulse doesn't seem to open for me. Does anyone have access to this material they'd be willing to
e-mail me? powerkiteimp@yahoo.com
If you think it\'s hard explaining HOW something works, try explaining WHY it doesn\'t work.
Sportin\' a Kitewing Monofilm Rage 5.5 (my go to sail), Kitewing Dacron IV8
10m Flysurfer Psycho 2 (incoming and my wallet outgoing), 5m PKD Buster, 4.8 NPW, 3.6m Ballistic Burner, 3m Skytiger, 2.1m Little Devil, 1m IMP
Surfin\' the dirt on a 16\" Flexi Freestyle Dirtsurfer with Hookworms, MBS F3 bindings, Dakine stomppads, and a custom Trampa deck (my go to
board)
20\" GP-X Dirtsurfer
16\" GP Freestyle Dirtsurfer
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Bladerunner
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FDS is pretty straight forward. It is a fifth line that when deployed pulls only the center of the kite forward. The wings taco back and the kite
loses all power.
The bar runs up the 5th line a bit. You pull in until you get the bar then slowly let it out. The kite re-takes it's shape and you are off !
Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
Flysurfer : 19m Speed 2 SA, 7m Pulse
Peter Lynn :18m Phantom, 15m Synergy, 10m Synergy, 1200 Farc, 460 Sarc, 130 Tarc, 5m Peel, 4.2m , 6.4, 8.5 C-Quads, 3.5 LS2 single skin.
Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .
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tridude... to answer your question... the Soft Steering setting (SSS) can introduce more backstall to the wing when/if oversheeted.
the Hard/Soft is a lock-out line between A main and B main... as you steer, the pulling force is distributed thru the mixer all back to the A lines as
an anchor. the HSS/SSS line will 'lock-out' sooner on the HSS mode and therefore the B main will travel a bit less before it is taught and pulls on A
main. as you pull harder you will actually be pulling in on Amain and are not only warping the AOA of that side of the kite, but pulling on the whole
side of the bridle like a Quad line fixed bridle foil. in SSS mode, the Bmain can travel farther and therefore move beyond Amain and enable faster
turning as well as lead to backstall.
hope that made sense
Former Flysurfer Representative & Repair Center
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