So on another thread i had issues with my Montana's Depower lines all 4 having huge difference in lengths..dunno what the heck i did. So i took someone's advice on taking my flexi's FB lines off my crossfire and trying it out on the Montana....just for now till i order new DP lines next week. wind was blowing 14mph today...layed out the lines and completly forgot that the brake lines are suppose to be longer for FB kites and correct me if i am wrong but DP lines are same length. So i was like eh what the heck i will just see what happens...ain't worried about a little drag at the moment. I attached the lines on same knots that HQ recommends and the ones i use which is the 2nd on the bar....get her up and she's up and i see her just sitting there LOL but i felt no response from her at all whatsoever. get on the board, tilt her over to 1 o clock.....nothing. 2 o clock nothing. I aint moving and feel no tug from her at all in 14mph winds LOL. set her down and move to the knot closest to the kite....I use this knot for low winds like 10mph....a WHAMMMM i am off moving at the speed of light LOL it always moves very fast and erratic when i move to that knot but it's manigable when i am out in 10mph winds. so it takes a while to get use to it and try a jump. jump no prob except i am getting dropped like a rock. these lines are 10 ft longer than what i am use too and kite is slower in response than what i am use too. :o No wonder the kite looked so small in the sky. oh well figured i would share...can't wait to get some new lines.

no matter what the kite, all lines should always be equal when you buy them and I would not say that fixed bridle kites peform better when the brake lines are longer - that's a matter of opinion. Based on the way I fly, hold my handles and set the lines on the leaders, many of my brake lines are likely, in essence, shorter than the mains.

There are kites (like the blade) that have a 2 line bias, but even those should not have brake lines noticeably longer than the mains. Often times the brake line leaders on the kite are longer than the main tow points so that creates the offset (that in addtion to the AoA built in to the kite) but you should always strive to have all lines equal from the get go.

I think that may be what you are trying to articulate but I've added my comments for clarity's sake.

10-14 mph is a little low for a 2.4m kite but as you've discovered, if you set it up OK and work it you can have a good day. As a general rule, unless you are VERY light, you will always be more or less dropped by a kite that size when jumping. Nevertheless, I'm glad you had a good day. Its good to see some riders in the area getting out for sessions. Were you at a beach or inland somewhere?

equal length. top to bottom

set up in the FULL ON setting, adjust from that point.

add or move a knot, add a pigtail.

I think he's flying the Montana 7 on the Crossfire lines.

Another thing about the DP line set is that they are all the same strength/ test, where the brakes on your Crossfire are a lot lighter, so be easy on the Montana untlil you get a new set. Stresses are more equally distributed accross the 4 lines on a Depower.

The Montana should not drop you so hard if you are redirecting properly, and keeping it overhead.

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Originally posted by B-Roc no matter what the kite, all lines should always be equal when you buy them and I would not say that fixed bridle kites peform better when the brake lines are longer - that's a matter of opinion. Based on the way I fly, hold my handles and set the lines on the leaders, many of my brake lines are likely, in essence, shorter than the mains. There are kites (like the blade) that have a 2 line bias, but even those should not have brake lines noticeably longer than the mains. Often times the brake line leaders on the kite are longer than the main tow points so that creates the offset (that in addtion to the AoA built in to the kite) but you should always strive to have all lines equal from the get go. I think that may be what you are trying to articulate but I've added my comments for clarity's sake. 10-14 mph is a little low for a 2.4m kite but as you've discovered, if you set it up OK and work it you can have a good day. As a general rule, unless you are VERY light, you will always be more or less dropped by a kite that size when jumping. Nevertheless, I'm glad you had a good day. Its good to see some riders in the area getting out for sessions. Were you at a beach or inland somewhere?

I took the lines off the 2.4 crossfire and used it on my Montana depower. :D i think you read it wrong......or i typed it wrong LOL

Ya Acambell with my correct depower lines that were on the Montana i had no trouble with it dropping me. Everything was fine,redirecting and all...i think it was cause the crossfire lines are 82ft and the kite was out a little further might of been the cause of the delay on redirecting i noticed she was a little slow to repsond. I think i might order some new lines today from Coastalwindsports.com .I saw some there last night. I don't want to stress my crossfire lines. I only used them once (flexi's) on the crossfire since i got them.