I gotta say... Very impressed!!!

I think this kite is one of the most stable open cell foils I have ever flown... compares to a LEI in that I can rest the kite above my head and catch my breath, holding both handles with one hand and it stays put...

This kite also turns faster than any kite in its size that I've come across on powers only... tap the breaks and it turns like a crazy 1.5m...

Power was good and expected for the size... lift was low but could be adjusted to create more, I did not have enough wind to determine the possible amount... A few 3 foot pendulum jumps were had that day when the flight pattern was manipulated to do so... It came up in light wind and flew very well in it for its size also, with great feed back at the handles it was easy to tell where it was at, at all times...

I played with the AOA some but didn't have the wind and space to see much of a difference, but was very impressed at the wide range of adjustment... I'd like to see some sort of ring or pulley instead of the lines sliding through other line, as I noticed a small amount of discoloration in the lines to show the start of wear...

AOA bridaling


Nice and solid due to the cross bracing... although the tips did not seem as solid as they would fold here and there, nothing that seemed to be of concern or noticeably affected the flight...



Very well constructed and seem to be top quality materials...




Photo1 2 3 4

The bag was of good quality materials and folded down to a compact size, but not of my choice of bags... it had an enormous stuff sack that went into a squarish bag that the top folded down like a bag of coffee and buckled at each end... soon I'll try and get photos of it...

I would rate this kite in the beginner to intermediate class, and I'd highly recommended it due to the ease of use and predictability of flight also great fun factor... great for getting newbies into our sport and be able to use it for a long time after...

ALL COMMENTS ABOVE ARE "MY" PERSONAL OPINIONS AND EXPERIENCE WITH FLYING THIS KITE... AND TO BE TAKEN ONLY AS SUCH!!!

This is the "Pass The Wolkenstuermer Electra 4.6" that's on this forum...
Thanx ripsessionkites...
I have to get it to Dakitez and sthrasher so they can play with it as I can not for apx. 4 weeks, for I fractured my left wrist (nasty lil Ace 2m) and will be out for this time but hope to play with it again at NABX...

Nice review Screwy and great pictures! Good luck with the wrist.

How did you hurt your wrist Screwy ?
2m Ace did what to you ?

Hope you are back at it soon !

thanx guys!!!
it was a combo of mother nature, the 2m ace and falling wrong... its just a small hairline fracture, more inconvenient than anything... just took a bail and fell wrong on my wrist, thought it was a sprain but the wife insisted that the Dr. check it... I hate when she's right ... them 2m aces are very snatchy lil F'ers in gusty winds...

sorry for the typing, it's all with the right hand...

wow, hardcore rider .. thx for the review even with the factured hand.

get well soon, and we need to talk. =)

Thanx rip,
Not as hardcore as all that... I flew this kite on Thurs and broke myself on Fri... I do get a fiberglass cast on fri so I should be able to hold onto a handle then don't tell my wife though she thinks I'll be out taking photos...

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and we need to talk. =)

I'm not in trouble am I :saint: Any time... more kites :tumble::wee: I'll U2U my info to you...

Thanx again for all the demos...

That sucks man - Dino told me about your incident - I've had similar experiences with the ace 2m as well - a bit luckier than you as to the endings though. I got the chance a while back at the beach to do a comparison to the 2m ace and a blade III 4m - almost identical in power in consistent clean winds. That little thing is very deceiving of its power to size ratio. Hope you get well soon.

Dr. Screwy removed the cast last Sun. and have been wearing a sling since and get checked tomorrow...

As for this Electra 4.6m, as promised I'm posting photos of the bags...

Electra 4.6 bag all rapped up...


Electra 4.6m bag open


Here's the stuff sack... My thought, it's too big!!!


Kite wrapped up and para-packed ready for a windy day...


My thoughts;
Pro's- Made of great quality material and very well built... The size of the bag would be great for more than one kite... Also I liked the way it rolled up to make it semi water resistant (dbl edge sword)...

Con's- The bag and sack where a bit too much bag for one kite (great for two)... The the bag rolled up might keep moisture in as it would keep it out (dbl edge sword)...

One thing to remember is that, "we don't fly the bags"

A "BIG THANX" to RIP!!!

great review ... did i forget to send / attach a LINK LINE??? sorry!!!

i havent been able to reply to everyone for the past little while as we're moving to a bigger location. we're a bit behind. should be back to norm by next week. SORRY!!!

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Originally posted by ripsessionkites great review ... did i forget to send / attach a LINK LINE??? sorry!!! i havent been able to reply to everyone for the past little while as we're moving to a bigger location. we're a bit behind. should be back to norm by next week. SORRY!!!

Yeah Rip,
The LINK LINE/strop is what I have wrapped around the kite (yellow line) to hold it together... I have my own strops that I like to use with no knots... I explained to csa_deadon how unpack my para-packing and that the yellow line is the strop...
"Bigger Location" "Congrats"
Thanx again...

So, I received the kite from Screwyfits this past Friday. And I gotta say I was like a little kid at Christmas as I opened the box. Of course I didn’t get it till late in the afternoon, so flying on Friday was out.

Saturday was spent watching constant waves of rain showers move in.

Today I set out early at 8:00 am to my favorite spot that has about the most consistent winds here. Winds were 11-14 knots out of the S-SSW, gusting upwards of 20knots.

So, my first experience with parapacking was not good. Screwy thanks for the info, but didn’t work out to well. So, after untangling the lines I was good to go.

Construction:
Very nice- Sail looks to be of high quality material. Stitching was well done and reinforced in areas of obvious high stress.

I like the pull outs on the dirt outs. I flew with the dirt outs closed and opened, and with them open it seemed to take some of the bite out of the wind gusts.

The bridals are on par with HQ in quality. Although like Screwy I would have liked to see pulleys instead of line on line. I can see where this will become an issue after awhile.

I really don’t care for the handles. They just weren’t heavy enough for me. But, they work.

Takeoff:
Had the kite set approx 45 degrees off wind. The kite had plenty of power at take off for scudding, boarding, or buggying. I was using my sand skis today, and was moving from the beginning.
Didn’t have a chance to take off with the kite directly facing the wind.

Flight:
Wow, from the beginning this kite just flew great. The kite reacted well to my inputs on the handles. Considering that this kite is about a good one foot deeper then my 3.6M, I thought it would turn slower. However this kite turned tighter and faster. Using right and left pulls with the braking inputs sets this kite on end, very impressed.

Didn’t get a chance to attempt a forward flight, hover and transition to backward flight to much wind for that. I believe however this will not be a problem for this kite in lighter winds.

Braking was good. A light touch on the handles produced a noticeable change in forward speed.
Was able to produce some nice center axis spins with a moderate amount of braking from one side. Even managed to bow tie the goofy thing once.

Didn’t experience any wingtip folding.
I was not able to test the upwind flight characteristics since I was on skis.

Switched out the lines that came with the kite for my 300/200 line set and did a few pendulum jumps, and static jumps. I got plenty of lift from the kite, five to six feet.
Didn’t play with the AOA due to weather, and I was having too much fun.

As far as the bag is concerned, I got lost inside it once. In my opinion a bag of this size really needs to be a backpack just for ease of transport. I carry all my gear in my Montana pack. This bag screams for company on the inside, so a shoulder strap at a minimum is needed.

Only got to fly for about an hour, so I’m hoping to fly this wing again on Monday or Tuesday before I send it along to the next.

Finally, in light of my ability to tangle the parapacking job that Screwyfits did (looked nice by the way) I’ve parted ways with a figure eight winder.

Big thanks to ripsessionkites.

Right-on!!!
I dig this kite, its so user friendly... stoked you had a good time with it so far... sorry for the parapack getting tangled, its extremely rare for that to happen...
That bag is nuts eehh...
Sweet review, good fun...

I think this kite could take over the Beamer realm of perfect beginner kite with some proper marketing... as it could start a beginner and take them to early stages of advanced flying... of coarse the correct size would be applicable...

Did nobody buggy or board w/ it? Will I be the first to tear up a beach w/it? Sweet!!! Clint and I are gonna have to get together and buggy

:wee:

I had a little time with the Wolfenwhatsit on the board and blades.
Personally I thought it looked and flew most like my Bullets but Dirtslide didn't agree ? I'm not sure what setting it was on but I found it responded to brakes a lot like the bullet with just a bit more lift. The profile of the sail also looks similar to me ?

I found backing it down was a bit touchy ? Something you could get used to without much trouble.

I agree. The bag is different and good in some ways. I would like to see a shoulder strap and some venting.

This and the Cooper that Rip passed around both get my Both are a good choice for entry and intermediate level at a competetive price. I would recommend this kite to anyone and the Cooper to someone who is interested in moving to race kites.

It came on Thur. ,no one home . Made arrangements for some one to be here on Fri., mailman forgets to bring it.
So I make sure that I stay home all day Sat. waiting for it. He forgot it again
He must not like the NOBAMA sticker on my truck!!


Guess I'm gonna have to file a" scrimination " lawsuit!

dude that sucks!! May want to send someone down to post office to pick up before they decide it is unclaimed. I was hoping you would have it for the weekend.

I got it! Out of the huge bag... came a pretty good lookin kite. Tomorrow is Veterans Day and I have the day off w/ pay. I'm goin lookin for wind!! :wee: Looks alot like a flexi rage/bullet,but w/ a different bridal.
( This looks promising) we'll see if it can deliver!

mmmm...

Sweet pic dude

Is wolkenstuermer German for Flexifoil?

Slammin photo with the bug...
Any opinions... while in the bug or static... How would you compare to that Rage, any similarities or advantages to either?

I love this kite. Kite quality is top notch! As good as my flexis any day.
It is just like my 4.7M Rage w/AAA kit! I always thought it should have been an AOAkite, like the blade or blurr, but flexi thought better. So I spent my cash and bought one for it. It made a huge difference in the wind range I could use that one kite!
Wolkenstuermer has made a good decision to make the electra AOA, it makes it such a more used kite! And if I close my eyes it feels just like my 4.7rage. It handles and flies just like my 4.7. Speed seems to be similar through the window. Flies reverse very well,turns on a dime. I love the AAA , but I agree , some metal / ceramic ring is gonna be required( major failure eventually!!). But I really liked all the knots for the adjuster . Flexi only gave ya 4 or 5 knots.

I couldn't really buggy up and down the beach, so I did 45 ft tacks .and I tried to stay in about a 50 ft box, pretty much. Harder to do than you think it would be. But the sprint/ powerslide/repeats that I did, let me have just a little taste of what I think is gonna be a great begginer/ intermediate buggy engine. It really has manners,which for a newby would be great to start buggyin with. I'll have to let ya know how it does at speed. I hope the wind blows this wknd. so I can do some real buggyin before I pass to clintopher.

Clint ,where ya at?

Rip ,this kite rocks dude! Thanks for lettin' me try it out!
Many good karma wind pts. for you my friend.

This is confirmation of my opinion when trying this kite.

I only had my Bullets to draw from but felt this kite was a Poor mans Rage / Blurr.

Good kite at a good price ! I hope they ( and Cooper ) make a go of it in North America ! I'm not so sure about Mr. Kitesurf ?

2 out of 3 isn't Bad ! Thanks Rip' for an opportunity at 3 kites I wouldn't have otherwise gotten my hands on !

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Originally posted by WELDNGOD I love this kite. Kite quality is top notch! As good as my flexis any day. It is just like my 4.7M Rage w/AAA kit! I always thought it should have been an AOAkite, Rip ,this kite rocks dude! Thanks for lettin' me try it out! Many good karma wind pts. for you my friend.

I'm right here waiting for wind to stir up on a weekend. It's looking like this weekend it may blow...you got any plans?

gotta move some furniture Sat. ,but if the wind and tide come together I'll make somethin happen. Sun. is wide open.
We need to kite! :wee:

Clint, u2u me your addy ,and I'll send it to ya'.

Clint!!!! If I don't hear from ya soon ,I'm gonna pass the Electra on down the road . Who is next, in case I don't hear from clint?

List:

1. harddrive8
2. SCREWYFITS
3. csa_deadon
4. clintopher / WELDNGOD
5. speleopower
6. f0rgiv3n
7. kitedemon
8. baluk

speleopower , where ya at? I'm back from the turkey thing.. Gotta get rid of this sweet black kite this week. Clint must be out of town for work. So your next , u2u me your addy and I'll get it out this week.
Peace WG

I'm back...sorry, haven't checked the board in a while. Is it too late for me to get it???

Clint