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f0rgiv3n
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Another Blaze II Review (10M)
So I had the opportunity this weekend to pull out my newest addition... the Pansh Blaze II 10 meters. It was quite exciting as well. I had just got
back home from the ski swap and it was overcast with a wee bit of rain. I didn't know if I should fly in the rain but thoguht "Ehhh what the heck". So
my brother and I went out there and pulled it out, first thing. Hooked it all up, hooked the chickenloop and man... the lift off was great, no pull
necessary to get this off the ground! It just floated up by itself, that's new to me!
Second It flew right to zenith and sat there, not a bit of tweaking needed so far! I then tried to turn the beast, I noticed the lines were too loose
to turn with so I brought it down and tightened the outer lines... back up and turned with no problems! The wind couldn't have been any worse, it was
going from NOTHING to like 10mph. What i was completely amazed with was the stability of this kite. If the wind died on me it sat there, floating,
where my other kites i've flown would have bowtied or collapsed.
Stability compared to my past experience (not a whole lot) is a 10!
I also tried a few things, i attempted a jump by just bringing it straight up the window (i know, not recommended... but the wind wasn't too bad ) and it lifted me nice and smooth and smooth landing as well. BEAUTIFUL.
Next I hopped on the ATB and started moving on this bad boy, i noticed with this wind I had to work the kite a bit, if I wanted the power i sacrificed
turning ability, if I wanted turning ability and movement in the window I had to sacrifice some power. Quite fun :D . I EASILY got moving on the board
and I didn't have to fight with the thing to stay alive, other times I had to keep going downwind a bit for speed, then back upwind to keep the kite
inflated. I needed a lot less of this because of how stable the kite was.
Anyways, the material it was made of felt a bit different than my ace. Especially when it got wet, the ace is more crisp/crunchy... the only way I can
describe this one is when it was a bit wet it felt like sleeping bag material? lol
To sum it up, and say what I really feel about the kite I Dreamt about it the night after :o LOVE the kite, and I can't wait to get it up in some
better winds, or the snow this year. Thanks Dakitez AWESOME kite.
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Nice review. But what's missing...........PICTURES! Come on man let's see that thing in action.
I'm glad it's working out for you. What kind of bar are you flying it on? I'd love to see a few pics of the bar setup as well.
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f0rgiv3n
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Yeah, no problem! i have some pics but I'll have to upload 'em a bit later :D . I'm actually using an HQ depower bar. It's really nice man. I LOVE IT.
I'll take some pics of that too :D
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Blaze II from bar
Here is a shot of one of my Blaze II kites on a bar.
These are sweet kites, they are the most under-rated depower kites out there! And they are inexpensive!!!
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Blaze II depower bar
This is the bar I use on my Blaze II kites.
It is a Radsail 60cm depower bar, and it works perfectly on all the Blaze II kites, right from the 5m up to the 12m monster that I have.
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Gotta say, I love all the color schemes of those kites, I would love a 5m in the red/white, 7m in the red/black and a 10m in the blue/white
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Blake
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Blaze II on a bar
Here is my 10m Blaze II doing it's thing.
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Blake
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Blaze II on a bar
Here is a photo of my fantastic 7m Blaze II at rest.
I used this kite all last winter on the snow and it was my "go to" kite over and over again!
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f0rgiv3n
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Yeah!! I am so stoked for this winter!!!
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nice pics and quiv Blake....................so youve got the winter/snow season covered it seems?
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sounds like a nice set,
stock bridle on these kites?
how much do you weigh?
what conditions are you using the 7m?
got lift?
what's the bridle like, easy to tune with a bar?
what range have you used the 12m and your experience with that?
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Blake
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Hi guys
Yes, totally covered for snowkiting...
The bridles are all stock, but I do "adjust" them by moving one knot in the depower line.
I weigh 170 lbs all suited up for the snow.
I use my 7m in winds from 20-45km's.
Yes, they have lots of lift, not quite as much as a Frenzy, but way more than the ACCESS.
The bridle is very easy to "tune" and only takes about 5 minutes to incorporate the change.
I use the 12m Blaze II in winds from 10-25 km's, it has lots of depower and turns extremely well for such a large kite.
PM me and I can set you up with the "mod".
Blake
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f0rgiv3n
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Hey Blake,
I took my blaze II out today and started messing with it. It did what a lot of 'em have done before, in other words when powered it fell out of the
sky. So i went up to do the mod and i was like "what the heck! I must not be doing the mod right". I came back and i realize that the knot that I
adjusted was the brake line knot and not the one that goes through the pulley! hahaha. Next time I get this bad boy out i'll make that adjustment and
put the other one back where it's supposed to be!
I'm stoked to see how well it'll perform .
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I would of went with one of these long time ago since money is tight, only reason i havn't is cause they have reduced lift. :barf: anyways.....how
does the 12m perform and wind range? I weigh 145 lbs
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Blaze II 10m
Hi guys
f0rgiv3n
PM me and I will set you straight on "the mod".
You want to move the knot on the "front" of the depower bridle, not the "back".
dgkid78 and others
The 12m Blaze II has all sorts of lift, in fact all of the Blaze II kites have fantastic lifting abilities. At your weight, you might want to think
about the 10m, but then again it all depends on your local winds, your ability and what your indended use is? I was setting up a new 5m Blaze II for a
friend of mine the other day and the little bugger lifted me off the ground twice!
These are great kites for snowkiting and buggying as they handle so sweetly. I have no concerns about the quality of the kites either, as I don't
treat my kites harshly, somone who is tough on their equipment might complain, but that's their problem. I have approx. 6 pansh kites and they are all
holding up quite well.
Blake
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i had the chance to fly with f0rgi3n tonight. he took out his 10m blaze and had tweaked just perfect. and finally the wind was perfect, 14mph not
gusty at all.
while he was flying it, i asked him to let go of the bar to see how stable the kite is. The kite sat perfectly still in the air, seemed to be quite
stable. Then he started pulling off jumps. This kite did have good lift. One right after another. Then, he hopped on his landboard
and started cruising down the feild in the moonlight. All the way down to the end, and turned around and came right back to where he started.
Pretty sweet if i say so myself, especially for the price.;-)
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Quote: | Originally posted by T-Bone
Pretty sweet if i say so myself, especially for the price.;-) |
sweet indeed ... i sure enjoy mine. With that said I doubt I will sell any more. Just too much hassle on my part to get bars and instructions. I guess
maybe I'm just lazy.
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Quote: | Originally posted by T-Bone
i had the chance to fly with f0rgi3n tonight. he took out his 10m blaze and had tweaked just perfect. and finally the wind was perfect, 14mph not
gusty at all.
while he was flying it, i asked him to let go of the bar to see how stable the kite is. The kite sat perfectly still in the air, seemed to be quite
stable. Then he started pulling off jumps. This kite did have good lift. One right after another. Then, he hopped on his landboard
and started cruising down the feild in the moonlight. All the way down to the end, and turned around and came right back to where he started.
Pretty sweet if i say so myself, especially for the price.;-) |
WELL said :D!!! Man i was gonna say somethin about that too but you said it just right. After modding it a bit this thing is BEAUTIFUL. Insanely
stable in winds like that, the pendulum jumps were the easiest i've ever had. Plus it was slow to let me down.
AWESOME session tonight t-bone :P Hopefully Saturday will kick up some wind for us and we might be flyin' in the snow
PS. sad that these don't sell so well dakitez... they are such amazing kites for their price. Hopefully i'll be able to find a 7m when the budget
allows
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Blake
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T-Bone and others
Do anything you can to get a hold of all the Blaze II kites you can find, as you found out, they are excellent kites (when set up properly) and I
don't think Pansh is going to make anymore of the larger sizes.
f0rgiv3n
By all means possible, get yourself a 7m Blaze II; it is by far the sweetest kite I have ever flown!
You will absolutely love the way it handles both low and high winds. Lots of depower and it turns on a dime! FUN, FUN, FUN at an affordable price.
Blake
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5m white/orange
7m black/yellow
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fOrgiv3n,
What rating would you give this kite after having it for a while and now flying your Syn?
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Hey dude... for a second I thought someone had changed the subject of my synergy review lol... I guess i didn't realize i put both as "Another _______
Review" hahaha.
Well... It's hard because it's been awhile since I flew the blaze II but the one thing I do miss is the launch. It was so cool to just stand there and
push the bar out and the kite would just climb up. Launching with the Blaze II was great. I do know that it is definitely not as fast as the synergy
but it's not like the 10m was a slow beast it's just the synergy is crazy fast for its size.
To me I'd have to say the synergy and the Blaze II are two different levels of kites. Blaze II would be a more of a fun kite to get into the sport and
a person who isn't striving to become a huge air/trick boarder. The Synergy IMHO is a more robust, lifty, and faster kite. Personally, I don't think I
could have progressed as fast with the Blaze as I did with the PL Arcs because the Blaze II didn't have enough lift in some of the winds that I was
flying in.
I would say it's a good kite but looking back at it from now having a synergy at 10/10 i'd give the blaze II a 6.70142 out of 10. Again, the saying
that Pansh always gets "GREAT kite for the money". That should be their motto, lol. cuz that's what it ends up being
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Quote: |
"Blaze II would be a more of a fun kite to get into the sport and a person who isn't striving to become a huge air/trick boarder." |
I would have to agree 100% with this comment, it really is an entry level depower, but it is a good one at that.
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"It was so cool to just stand there and push the bar out and the kite would just climb up." |
That is actually one of my favorite features about this kite. It is amazingly simple to launch. Bringing this review back alive is almost tempting
me to break mine out and fly it again! Too bad there's no wind today and it's nicely packed and ready to go in a moments notice if someone decides
they want it.
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"the Blaze II didn't have enough lift in some of the winds that I was flying in." |
What was the most you have flown the Blaze II in? In 15+ mph wind it does produce some pretty good lift, not crazy, but enough to get some good jumps
in if you knew how to jump. It's also surprisingly quick on its feet for such a big kite in these winds too.
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It's not necessarily a problem with the kite it's just the winds I fly in are terrible so it wasn't ideal for my conditions. I know it definitely
provides some lift but this is in relation to really gusty conditions, sorry for not clarifying that part.
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@f0rgiv3n: what would you say: does the blaze II flys in lower winds than the synergy? or do they both are on the same level regarding "low end"
performance?
and - if you wouldnt mind: could you maybe weight your synergy and your blaze II on a kitchen scale or person scale (difference method: first weigh
yourself, after that weigh yourself plus kite)? kite only, no lines, no bar, no bag. i am asking because i have that thread running that compares the
weight of kites per projected square meter: http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2360753
it would be really nice to have a pansh kite in that list too, just to show that one does not necessarily need to spend lots of money to get a good
low wind kite. and the synergy would be great too, to see the evolution in arc kites.
thanks in advance, and nice review! i am now considering buying a pansh kite, again. winter is coming soon!
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so you can use a regular 4 line depower bar on this kite?
i want to use my LF Havoc bar 4 line depower, Im thinking of getting a blazeII
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hey herc, I don't actually own the blaze II anymore . I ended up selling that
thing. I will weigh the kite for you when I get a moment or two. Houston... yes a regular 4 line depower bar
Oh and low end... well, since the blaze II is an open cell foil it definitely will fly in less wind than the synergy. I haven't tried to fly my 15m
synergy in anything less than 12mph because of previous arc experience. So since the blazeII could definitely fly in less than 12mph it has better low
end :D
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A blaze II can be compared to a HQ Apex or Ozone Access because of their flying characteristics, but to compare it to an arc is apples and oranges
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im sorry i forgot to ask, will i have to mod line lengths or anything. does the blaze II come ready to fly? does it depower wih pullys? Ive just heard
so many mixed reviews on this kite im still weery?
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Blake
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Blaze II
Houston AirHead and others
Get a Blaze II, they're a great kite!
I have an entire quiver of them and they all fly extremely well. The low end on the 12m is nothing short of amazing, it will basically fly in no wind
at all. Just a gentle tug on the front lines and it climbs right to the top of the wind window every time. Another great feature about these kites
that no one has talked about before is the relaunch from a leading edge down position. My 12m Blaze II relaunches so easily by just pulling on one of
the rear lines, it's really far better than even my old Ozone Access in this maneuver. And it does it every time! No messing with the bar or anything,
just pull on one of the rear lines and it just rolls over so sweetly!
These kites handle really nicely as well, right from the 5m through to the 12m , rock sold stability, nice turning, depower on demand, easy relaunch,
affordable, the list goes on....
One other thing, these are not just for "beginners just getting into the sport", I have been kiting for 8 years and have owned a lot of different
brands and I still feel the Blaze II is a great kite regardless of the $$$ involved.
If you have any questions regarding these kites, just pm me and I will answer what I can.
Blake
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thanks blake, i think i am going to get the 5 meter, winds are starting to pick up here allot in south texas and you have to pay an extra $70 bucks
for the 7 meter. im going to be flying it on 25 meter lines with a 4-line liquid force depower bar( below the bar - depower).
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