i everyone, Im starting a project to build my own kitewing, using the measures off a RAGE 55 Kitewing.
I need help from the guys at the forum that own a RAGE 5.5, I need some measures and pictures. Below I posted a rough schematic and a few pictures, with the measures i need to know.

Please grab a measuring tape and measure your wing, then post the measures here, Ill post the finished plans when ready, the project will be documented step by step at this forum, so everybody can make its own :D




Front tube diameter:
Front tube lenght:
Front tube tip to cross tube joint:
Front tube tip to Y-tube joint:
Front tube extension lenght (when straight):

Y-tube diameter
Y-tube lenght:

Crosstube diameter:
Crosstube lenght:

Boom Diameter:
Boom lenght (measured against a flat surface, tip to tip):
Boom height (on a flat furface at the highest point):
Boom rear end to Y-tube joint:

Batten Lenght (tip to tip, straightline):
Batten height (on a flat surface at the highest point):

Diameter and lenght of the rope that links the top tubes and the boom:

Wingspan of the sail extended on the ground:
Sail lenght extended on the ground:




If your willing to help, just write your email, or send me a PM telling me that i can count on you...

Thanks :D

Direct link to the image just in case, 10 minutes of your time measuring your wing can be really useful to me and to the whole net looking for kitewing plans....

:D

Hummmmmmmm.....


so your saying that you want to pirate a kite wing {rage 5.5m} and POST it on the world wide web

quote"so everybody can make there own "


hehehehehehehehehehehe you frickin crack me up

I know , I know !!!!!

why don't you just call them up

and ask them

Even if its an exact replica, it will never be as good as a real factory kitewing... its just a project to calm my anxiety till i get the bux to buy a real one...

Is somebody willing to help or will just laugh and defend someone elses bussiness (maybe KYTE SLINGER works for the kitewing manufacturing company :S)

I need just a few measures... at least the front tube lenght, front tube extension lenght an Y-tube lenght... the rest can be calculated, copied from photographs and drawings posted by the company itself...

Please, some help over here!!!

why not save your money from this project and buy one

let someone else do the R&D and enjoy the wind instead

The problem is that....a new wing over here...costs 1400 dollars... and I can make this complete wing for... lets say.... 300

Arent there in the market chinese sails or aftermarket sails??? the tubing can be made in one day of work....

I'd say that there is nothing wrong with trying to make your own wing. It's asking others to measure up an existing design so that you can make an exact replica and then stating that you're going to post up the design for others to rip off as well that got people ruffled.

I'd say save your $300 and start searching for a used wing. You'll have something better than a homebrew but cheaper than brand new.

There are no wings sell in my country yet.... havent seen any, havent heard about any....havent seen it advertised in any magazine or local ebay or nothing.... conventional kites are everywheere.....but no wings yet...the cost way too much.... if the were 700 dollars like the price abroad i´d buy one right now.....but at 1400 dollars i think its not a good idea...

Whats going to kill you is shipping. You could probably buy one from someone here on the forums, but the shipping is what will hurt you. I have no idea what it would take to ship a kite to your location.

It would seem that you would spend a lot of cash putting together an exact replica, when you could just rig something up that would be "good enough" for next to nothing.

Its just that requesting an exact replica to post for everyone would seem a bit... unethical.:puzzled:

Not to mention that if they found out, they could sue the crap out of you.

Im not talking about an exact replica....my kitewing attempt will assemble with bolts, will be full aluminum frame, and the sail will be made at a custom sail shop from standard dacron (a monofilm window would be nice)

I dont want an EXACT replica...y just want to know the dimensions to build something that can pull e thru the beach... its imposible to make an exact replica without having the real wing to take measures.... i just want to aproximate the most posible to the general geometry of the sail.... the assembly and the rest of the stuff is pure homemade and planned to be as simple and cheap possible....

Post some measures from the list... you wont regret seeing my smiling face in a month or two with my crappy DIY wing in my hands :D

Promote the sport....make a third world guy happy :D

promote the sport.........................

DUDE! you just don't get it do ya

there is nothing you can say that can validated your intentions

Kitewing dealers in Argentina.

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monte@surforfly.com

Im not inventing anything....its been done before... lots of guys made their own wings... theres nothing wrong with that... if you dont want to help I dont mind, but dont drag with you all the guys who´ve been in my same situation and want to give me a hand....

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Originally posted by xeriotti Im not inventing anything....its been done before... lots of guys made their own wings... theres nothing wrong with that... if you dont want to help I dont mind, but dont drag with you all the guys who´ve been in my same situation and want to give me a hand....

Maybe instead of asking for measurements of something that has been copyrighted, marketed, and professionally made, you should ask guys who HAVE built their own for pointers.

I can certainly understand that way of doing this... but as long as you are looking to benefit from someone else's product that is currently being marketed, I don't think you will be received well.

That kitewing looks pretty sweet... good luck building your own, I dont think it will be that hard to do- in a much more simple product anyway, but what do I know?

I seen some #@%$#!ty wings made by guys around the net... before attempting my own design...i want to know the dimensions of a real wing...something that actually works...

I can make something "similar" but it may be too small or too large to weak, to heavy or maybe with a wrong geometry, that feels odd or something...

Im not intneding to make ANY profit of my homemade wing...just personal enjoyment and to try the sport... i dont want to kill my coiny pig to buy a 1400 dollars wing if i havnt tried it in my life....

The first thing to know with any DIY project, as you have seen, is that sometimes the result isnt quite what you want. There is always something that you can do better, or differently, or just plain doesnt work right.

I am going through something similar... but its all part of the fun. And it will be THAT much more rewarding in the end, when I get it where I want it. BTW, I am "fixing up" an older buggy to be ridable comfortably and safely while I save up money for a new buggy... our situations are very similar.

I have bought tools, invested time and money in finding out what I need to do differently. Embrace the task, seek the reward, and make your mistakes. You will get better, or give up trying.

It has given me a new appreciation for the guys that make their own well, and the guys that produce them on a commercial level. Our toys are expensive, and theres a reason for it. Try it yourself, and find out.

Seriously, it is fun... frustrating, but fun.

Im a DIY guy.... my dad has a diesel injection workshop, full of tools... his hobby as I said before is experimental aviation...so DIYing can be breathed on the air over here.... I laminate my own skimboards (for me and friends) Im laminating right now some wakeskates, I made a pressable template out of wood.... this to be used with a scooter-engine winch.... with 250 meters of paragliding tow rope... for use in creeks lakes and everywheere you cant feet a boat or jet ski to tow you around....

My next project is building a kitewing... I want to try it...my dad told me... "Buy one" he always tell me so...and he is right... the guys at the kitewing factory have developed an excelent product and have passed across all the fails that my wing will have....

I like the feeling inside me when someone asks.. "where you bought that?" and I say... I made it...

So... dont get mad about copyrights, sueing people, and stuff like that... its jsut about enjoying the wind, enjoying working on a project, and having fun....

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I seen some #@%$#!ty wings made by guys around the net... before attempting my own design...i want to know the dimensions of a real wing...something that actually works...

Same goes with all original designs...I'm sure all companies in business would like to get a hold of someone else's designs (designs that work)...that way they wouldn't have to spend hundreds/thousands/millions of dollars in R&D. That's why there are copyright laws...

Not to be too harsh...but I think KS was right...you really don't get it...

I would bet that no one on this forum is going to provide you with the actual dimensions....everyone on here seems to be very ethical and I believe that someone who designs something that works, should not have there ideas 'stolen'...

BTW,,,it doesn't matter if some components are different, the owner of that copyright would still have a good case for a lawsuit.

Please let this topic die!!!!

Ok... im unethical... if someone wants to help... just send me a Private Message...

There are way too much guys that work for the kitewing corp. :D

NPWfever has put together a home made kite wing. I think He is away for the holiday. Send Him a U2U and He may be able to help ?

I think He posted a picture of it at one time ? Maybe search his posts ??

Back as of the 27th, and yes I made one, it cost me nothing, from a tent from my friends garbage. I used the aluminum poles from the frame, and sewed the nylon. She's 6m, no battons, no plans, no measurements, just a guess....and I get up and ride all the time. So, dude if your'e gonna do it, just go for it, make a triangley thing out of metal, cover it with fabric, and it will get you riding just as well. Hell, I've flown my wing off small hills....im 17 and pulled it off with a guess, something tells me that you could as well.

I don't think its that big a deal to try to make your own wing. Trying to make an exact copy with the exact dimensions might not be legit but I don't see what the big deal with you trying to make your own wing is. You got into trouble when you asked for people to basically send you the kitewing measurements and design. If you scrap that idea and make your own then there isn't anything wrong with that.

People make their own buggies all the time and they do it in part by looking at what is already out there and borrowing ideas. I've never seen anyone tell them not to try to make a buggy and go buy one instead. And I don't see why your thread needs to "die" either.

And there no way he's going to get sued for making his own wing, even if its an exact $%(*$ replica unless he tries to sell it. Lawsuits cost $ and there aren't any damages to sue for unless he sells it. Suggestions that he'll get sued for making his own replica wing are laughable.

I don't think you'll get a lot of help on this forum though because I don't think there are many kite wing fliers. NPWfever is definitely a fellow DIY'er and should have some input for you though. (Edit: He beat to the post and I see that he does.)

I agree with NPW - look at some designs - youtube - pics - and then make a reasonable guess at your design (which from your drawings look pretty well established and of good quality). Key thing here is to make your design adjustable - don't sew the wing material directly to the frame, try to use overlapping velcro that will "lock" it in but still be adaptable to get that comfy feel that your looking for. Experimenting with "your"design is much more rewarding than simply trying to make a copy of something already out there - who knows maybe doing your own design will help you figure out something different and better than the existing designs. Good luck to you in your endeavor.

Ill make the sail first.... (the guys at the sail shop will sew it out of dacron and some monofilm) pretty much the geometry of a rage... pretty much the 4 meters of wingspan...the rest all calculations thru scaling.... then...once i have the sail...the rest is just bolting tubes together to make it assemble right

A few measures would be good... the Y-tubes, cross tubes and front tubes....just to figure out the real dimensions of what im doing...

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Originally posted by kiteNH Suggestions that he'll get sued for making his own replica wing are laughable.

Publishing someone elses work online would be a different story.

I just want to build my kite... and maybe share my knowledge... still waiting for some help

I don't want to be an ass, but I don't think your gonna get help...just do it man, make a metal triangle, put a sail on it, and ride.

Good luck!

Selfish kitewingers