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15m Synergy
maiden flight today, sweet! Installed the kook proof leaders and stix in the yard before we left. Both stix about an inch too long. Broke out the pipe
cutter, trimmed, done. Pre inflate no problems at all. Winds were WSW@ 13. Fill time was pleasing quick for an inland spot. Launch was easy, same as
the Vs and Scorps. Airborn top off (total inflate) seemed faster than the Vs and Scorp.
First flight but Id say the 15 is as fast maybe faster than my 13m V. Def faster than the 16m V2 (mind you Venoms are not slow), maybe a tad bit more
than the 16m Scorp. Depower was nice, turns very quick, auto zenith as advertised, stable, grunty with pop and nice float. Quality of the sail, VPC
bridles, bag, etc awesome. .......very pleased at this point................
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wow fresh ....appears to be flattened abit , very trim looking.
very nice
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your right Phree which explains the pre inflate and speed..........
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This might be too early to discuss this but what settings did you try and which one are you keeping?
Also, what's factory line length? 27M? I've recently add 3M (total 28M) per your recommendation but didn't have a chance to fly it yet.
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Congrts Don!
Nice looking sail. Just about time for a meet up and kite swap for a day. Hee, Hee.
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Quote: | Originally posted by leebrianh
This might be too early to discuss this but what settings did you try and which one are you keeping?
Also, what's factory line length? 27M? I've recently add 3M (total 28M) per your recommendation but didn't have a chance to fly it yet.
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all straps halfway, VPC bridle 2nd knot from the kite, 28m Q powerlines.
Mel,
sounds like a plan.........I need to checkout that big ole sod farm............
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Congrats Don, nice looking sail flying. The sod farm in intriguing me as well. A big meet up would be great if Mel can pull it off with the
landowner. I've got 2 new kites to share as well.
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Quote: | Originally posted by BeamerBob
Congrats Don, nice looking sail flying. The sod farm in intriguing me as well. A big meet up would be great if Mel can pull it off with the
landowner. I've got 2 new kites to share as well. |
yeah we need to set a sfd (sod farm date). So hows the new toyz?
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Looks a bit wider from the leading edge to the rear than the venoms - I would imagine more floaty because of this - amazing that it can turn as fast
or even faster than the venoms with it's extra width. Can't wait to hear more about it.
we all believe is called the expansion
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Quote: | Originally posted by tridude
Quote: | Originally posted by BeamerBob
Congrats Don, nice looking sail flying. The sod farm in intriguing me as well. A big meet up would be great if Mel can pull it off with the
landowner. I've got 2 new kites to share as well. |
yeah we need to set a sfd (sod farm date). So hows the new toyz? |
I've got a thread going titled Peter Lynn Reactor 4.9. Very nice kite for that mid wind range a 5m takes care of. I didn't have time to fire up the
Montana yet. It goes out hopefully tomorrow or Saturday.
I could do the sod farm most any saturday except valentines weekend. I'd just do an out and back for the day to save a buck. I can be there in about
2 hours.
That red/white/blue is my pick of the colors at first glance. Angus, what color did you get? You buggy with it yet?
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congratulations on a great choice of kite. this is the best arc to date and imo the 15m is the best size. have fun and enjoy the
flooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatttt!!!!!
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I have ordered 19m and 12m in rasta for my NZ and Tasmania trip!:wee:...........aj
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A question to those of you who flew other Peter Lynn kites, is Synergy that good compare to previous PL kites?
This is not a sarcastic question but I was thinking, with only 4 attach point (6 including pulleys) and "C" shape, there is not much they can change
other than Aspect Ratio?
From what I heard, Synergy turns faster, right? Any other characteristics they improved from previous PL models? Rather than reading from PL
website, I would like to hear from real users.
Again, this is not sarcasm but I have 10M Synergy and 15M Scorpion myself (these are my first PL kites and only flown 10M twice) and I would like to
know what I have.
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Quote: | Originally posted by leebrianh
A question to those of you who flew other Peter Lynn kites, is Synergy that good compare to previous PL kites?
This is not a sarcastic question but I was thinking, with only 4 attach point (6 including pulleys) and "C" shape, there is not much they can change
other than Aspect Ratio?
From what I heard, Synergy turns faster, right? Any other characteristics they improved from previous PL models? Rather than reading from PL
website, I would like to hear from real users.
Again, this is not sarcasm but I have 10M Synergy and 15M Scorpion myself (these are my first PL kites and only flown 10M twice) and I would like to
know what I have. |
Im looking forward to your comments after youve flown your 10m on 28m lines. Thinner profile and the VPC have to be key in turning performance for the
Syns. Your 16 turns fast too for such a big kite. Similarities between the two---VPC bridle, internal straps, did I miss
anything?..................just my thoughts............
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Quote: | Originally posted by action jackson
I have ordered 19m and 12m in rasta for my NZ and Tasmania trip!:wee:...........aj |
nice.........................
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So Don, how are you getting along with the Synergy?
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so far no complaints........I spoke with Angus yesterday about this...........build and performance awesome! Two flights, one land, one water. Water
session last Friday was short but sweet, the windchill was 28 degrees (4/3 suit, booties, hood, gloves ok that's cold for here
guys)...................out for about 30 mins, didnt stray too far from the beach (just in case). Upwind performance was sweet, power on/off thru the
bar awesome, easy to carve/hold an edge, transitions were a bit off but kite is faster than what Im used to, and it/I was cold. No problem up and
plaining in 13 kts. Bottom end maybe 10 kts on my PLYdoor, top end who knows but Id say higher than the specs call for which is 20 kts I believe.
Dumped her on the front line, floated nicely to the ground. Popped some sand on her and ran back to the car to warm up/change before packing
out....................
It appears Im covered with two kites from 12 to 30kts which isnt too shabby. Have to mention the Q Powerlines are sweet as
well................recommend buy a spool and make your own. I made a 28m set for the arcs......................
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Sounds nice and like she is doing what you hoped. 28 windchill would be drysuit territory for me.
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Quote: | Originally posted by BeamerBob
Sounds nice and like she is doing what you hoped. 28 windchill would be drysuit territory for me. |
if I had a dry suit...........saving grace the water temp was 55 degrees at the time. New kite and the forecast were the main reasons I went for it.
Extremities and head were fine, feet and hands started numbing after 20 mins...................
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AJ flew my Syn 15 last week in Treasure Island. 7:30 in the AM and it was thirty something degrees. He was warmer in his dry suit than were were on
shore. He flew back to back with his Venom and noted the faster turning right away.
I did not get a good land session with it but will try this weekend...
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From what I heard, Synergy turns faster, right? Any other characteristics they improved from previous PL models? Rather than reading from PL website,
I would like to hear from real users. |
Hi Brian,
Please take this with a grain of salt...Although I've flown my Venom II's for quite some time I have only flown the Synergy 19m once on the water for
about 20 mins and did a little static flying with my buddy's 15m Synergy.
Turn speed is definitely improved....definitely quicker. More power at the bottom end. Easier to relaunch from the water (note - didn't try it
myself,,,just saw a fellow beginner who always dunked his VII's and Synergy's)...
Heard from some instructors as well...better pop and increased hang time with the Synergy's (more floaty).
I do think the auto-zenith is a little better with the VII's. Also, I actually preferred my VII to my instructor's Synergy 19m...But, this was based
on just one flight and I think it had a lot to do with the way it was tuned. Turning speed was great though...on the 15m...Whow I was impressed.
....oh, almost forgot...static flew my other buddies 12m. Now that turned really fast....
BTW....your Syn 10m looked sweet in that buggy run with the Blowkart ;-)
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2nd inland, gusty session......beach was fogged in and not much wind there this morning..............headed back to the hood in North
Chuck................bar tweeks are just about right, clam cleat just out of the picture, safeties deploy nicely, amsteel on the rear leaders, and 28m
Q powerlines...................oh and the Synergy aint too bad either.............winds were 18 to 24 gusting and she flew very well. I moved the VPC
bridle to the 2nd knot from the bottom, pulled the main strap tensioner in 3/4, and left the wing tip adjuster at half way. Noticed a big diff in sail
stiffness and power while turning. Awesome kites for sure....................................
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Friday offshore, 10 to 14 kts, Folly Beach county park.......great session............ as the tide drew out more sand available...............great
tacks up and down the beach 1/2 mile or so, build up a little speed, nice little floaty jumps or just lean back and cruise........may have found the
correct settings for my style but I have the main strap at the deflate opening pulled all the way in, wing tip straps 1/2 way, and VPC bridle second
knot from bottom (away from the kite)...sail is stiff, turns fast with power, and drives upwind nicely...........will confirm on next water
session.............all in all great kite:duh: :wow:
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we had amazing session on the water friday as well nice west wind throttled up around 3 , v13 was leading the pack
synergy sounds quick
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just a quick down and dirty update from Saturdays meet. Low wind performance from inflation (mother nature) to flying, grunt, speed
,etc...............were very impressive. I had 8m extensions ready to install but not required. The 15 rocked on 28m lines. Upwind easy peasy on the
board in 8/9ish flakey winds. BB made some sweet passes and down-loop turns on his first time with an Arc in the buggy! Sweet machine indeed!! :duh::duh:
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entered in error (sorry)
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hopefully i will get a turn on Angus'15m SYN on Amelia. domino's deals are breaking my concentration
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Quote: | Originally posted by tridude
just a quick down and dirty update from Saturdays meet. Low wind performance from inflation (mother nature) to flying, grunt, speed
,etc...............were very impressive. I had 8m extensions ready to install but not required. The 15 rocked on 28m lines. Upwind easy peasy on the
board in 8/9ish flakey winds. BB made some sweet passes and down-loop turns on his first time with an Arc in the buggy! Sweet machine indeed!!:duh::duh: |
I am a relative newbie on anything depower and was a little apprehensive sitting into the buggy with a 15m kite. It was easy as pie to fly, nothing
snatchy, just smooth power. It is a serious kite though, once when the wind picked up, I was hitting some high enough speeds to vibrate the buggy on
ground that is smooth but the lumps of grass make small bumps, and I was sliding all 3 wheels with it. I hope Angus gets a chance to fly his synergy
saturday between Phreerider and I wanting turns on it.
I'm hooked on downturns in the buggy since kitedog advised me on them. I'm confident with them with my fixed bridles so they felt natural with the
synergy as well. Just pull the bar in a little to make a quick turn and I'm sliding through a turn.
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Epic session with the Synergy yesterday on St. Simons Island. There is a new sand bar there that is shaped like a boomerang with about a 1000' on
each leg, so it presents itself well for a variety of wind directions. Johnny Laing was there to rip it up with me. The sand bar is narrow enough
that it forced us on a tight upwind reach one direction and a deep broad reach the other. The Synergy handled both easily. I was clocking 20 mph
upwind in a 12 mph breeze about 45 degrees off the local wind- pretty darn good. Bar pressure became quite firm at just about the point the back
wheels would break loose, so it was a very comfortable trim.
Downwinders were a 30 mph park and ride with fingertip steering. I felt that I could have worked the kite for more speed but Left some margin of
comfort and maneuvering room considering there were a few dogs and pedestrians. At the end of the run, the sandbar would end at the beach with an
up-hill incline and a run-off into soft sand to scrub off speed. There was a considerable wind shadow there that demonstrated the kite's low wind
handling well. That, along with the unobstructed full breeze at the other end of the bar gave me a great range to play with and really made me
appreciate the range of the kite.
There is so much room for adjustment and trim on these kites that I know it will take a few more sessions to get it completely dialed in but I can
definitely feel the potential.
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I've had a few epic session on the 12m and one on the 19m so far. I will be out on the 12m today on a new board! I picked up a 142x42 decay board
yesterday so today will be a great test in 15-20 winds. These kites turn so fast! I will be back on the south island tommarrow and will run the 19m
thru its paces. So far i have about 12 hrs on the kites and am really stoked on them so far! Happy flying from New Zealand.....................aj
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Pl xr+ buggy , Pl Kitecat hull #5
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\"Holding it down, since 20 knots!\"
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