Power Kite Forum
Not logged in [Login - Register]
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
Author: Subject: bridle knot
treblehook
Member
***




Posts: 277
Registered: 2-5-2007
Location: Magnolia,Tx
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-2-2009 at 09:27 PM
bridle knot


just a quick request
Need to redo the brake bridle on a 4 meter buster..
?---what knot to use @ kite fabric (with sewn in fabric loops)?
thanks --------------Herb



slingshot 2.0
HQ Symphony 2.7m
profoil1.5-- 2.5--4.5--5.5
pkd buster SF 2.2
pkd Brooza 3 meter
jojo rm 4 & 5 meter
flexifoil bullet 5.5
PL Synergy 19m
PL Synergy 15 m
PL Phantom 18 m
KGB Comrade 139
View user's profile
furbowski
Posting Freak
*****


Avatar


Posts: 1470
Registered: 1-5-2008
Location: hong kong
Member Is Offline

Mood: stuck on a small island with big trees and tiny beaches...

[*] posted on 4-2-2009 at 09:48 PM


Is there a kitemaker's "best" knot for this?

I'm guessing it's a hitch with a good balance between minimal line use and maximum security...

:eureka:

or could just double over the end of the line an inch or so, stick the loop end through and larS-P-A-M-L-I-N-K-s head like its a real loop, then use the extra little stubby bit of line sticking out of the larS-P-A-M-L-I-N-K-s head (the other line going towards whatever is next on the way to the flying line attachments...) and tie a tiny overhand around the long line mentioned just now, the larS-P-A-M-L-I-N-K-s head takes most of the strain, the overhand knot makes sure it doesn't slip. would need to pull it all tight and make sure each knot used the same amount of line...

just an idea, I've only had to deal with sewn loops so far...



fixed bridles, flying static, been two years now... ??? folks must be wondering....

sting 1.7, dp power 2.5, crossfire 3.2, ace 5, blade iv 6.5, ace 8, ace 12...

also a couple of arcs, 12 syn and 12 phanny, but i\'m not yet up to speed on them.

(13.11.09)
View user's profile
WolfWolfee
Senior Member
****


Avatar


Posts: 695
Registered: 7-1-2007
Location: Smith, Alberta
Member Is Offline

Mood: Blessed with Wind

[*] posted on 5-2-2009 at 06:08 PM


I would think a good knot would be a blood knot. It is used to join to lines of different sizes together but is amazingly strong. IMHO



3M Legend
4.9M Reactor
9.5M Sabre
16M Scorpion
18M Guerilla
Flexi Bug & 661 Armor & Giro Helmet
View user's profile
Scudley
Posting Freak
*****


Avatar


Posts: 1159
Registered: 20-11-2007
Location: Vancouver
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 5-2-2009 at 08:26 PM


If you are replacing a line at the trailing with factory made bridle with a loop at each end, take your bridle apart and use a larks head. If you are replacing with line with no loop, I suggest a sheet bend or a double sheet bend.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheet_bend



Is it possible to design for strength, if the designer doesn't really understand what strength is?
8m speed wings.
Ozone Samurai 3m
Sky Country Reflex 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10m new 6m!
Sky Country NaSCa 2 11m
Sky Country Alasca 10m - sold
Rhombus Firebee 3m (ret).
Libre Vampir Race Pro 2.6m
Jojo Rage 8m

www.skycountry.ca
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
krumly
Senior Member
****




Posts: 598
Registered: 26-12-2004
Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 5-2-2009 at 09:34 PM


I usually use an overhand slip knot - feed the line through the sewn loop, and tie an overhand knot around the standing part of the bridle line. Then add an additional overhand knot on the bitter end to act as a stopper.

I find a sheet bend works best with tension on the standing part of each line, which you won't get from the sewn fabric loop at the kite.

Most high end kites now have sewn bridle loops in which case a larkshead is in order. And as Scudley said, you'd have to unbridle from the secondaries all the way back to the kite.


krumly



Flying:
1.5 m Ozone LD Stunt
2.2, 3.2, 4.2 m C-Quads
2, 3, 4, 5.5, 7.5m PKD Broozas
9m PL GII, w/ adjustable rear strap mod
Dual mode mod PL GI 13, HArc 6, FArc 12
Cab 5m Convert, 7&9m Xbow, 12m SB
Lots of stunt kites and a Rev Supersonic

Riding:
Libre Special buggy, PL Comp buggy
Line skiboards, & Lib-Tech Park & Pipes
Cabrinha Prodigy kiteboard
View user's profile
arkay
Posting Freak
*****




Posts: 1793
Registered: 23-10-2008
Location: Oregon
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 5-2-2009 at 09:39 PM


I can by no means say that I'm a kite bridal expert, but for similar line joining applications on the boat I'd use a Zeppelin Bend.

For the brake line to kite loop though... I did completely take apart one of my lower end HQ kites and it was pretty much all larks head, single and double figure eights. I think to replicate this thought you'd need to basically start with fresh lines from the kite loops and build up the bridal for the brakes. If you're trying to just repair one line and splice it into the existing line attached to the bridal then I'd probably start with the new line, make a double bowline (or double 8) on the side attaching to the kite loop and larks head that on then I'd zeppelin the lines together.

Would work on the boat :dunno: Hopefully a real kite maker can educate us...



US503 - Manzanita, Oregon

Fixed Bridal: Flexifoil Sting 1.2, 1.7; Rage Acid 2.5m, 3.5m, 4.7m, 6m | Peter Lynn Vapor 11.2m, 16.1m | NPW 7m
Depower : Peter Lynn Venom 2 13m, 16m, 19m | Peter Lynn Phantom 15m | Flysurfer 2.5 SA 19m
LEI : Flexifoil Atom 7m, 9m, 12m; Mutiny 8m
Land rides : Libre Hardcore; Libre v-max; Peter Lynn XR+W | Rollerblade Coyotes! | Ground Industries AK Pro
Water rides : Slingshot Misfit 134; Ocean Rodeo Mako 150; North WAM! 5\'10

4 Sale/Trade: HQ M1 5m, Flysurfer Pulse 10, PL Venom 2 16m, PL Venom 19m

View user's profile

  Go To Top

Hosted by: Mad Moose Studio