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[*] posted on 7-2-2009 at 04:46 PM
15M phantom FLIGHT! whooooooow!


boys and girls carltb has dropped a prize on me .....

just finished a ride on PL 15m phantom or should i say flight

this thing might turn slow but fast it does fly! and powered flight let me tell you!

first time ever on a phantom series .....love it

had to do a repair about a 2 foot tear with some LE damage but 30 min. with needle and floss and I'm flying like mAD! solid repair no pucker or distortion maybe lost 1-2cm never know it.

CARL! supreme indeed

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[*] posted on 7-2-2009 at 08:31 PM


nice dude! I just got my 15m phanny in the mail on friday. so far there hasn't been any wind yet this weekend so I spent a little time today making some extra spars for it and admiring the kite.

I'm glad to hear you like the 15m Phantom, I love my 12m even though I've only been out on it twice so far. I can't wait to try the 15m.

just out of curiosity, how much wind were you out in and how long of lines are you flying?



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[*] posted on 7-2-2009 at 08:56 PM


the wind , i guess 10-15mph i had not checked

the lines 30m (i think)



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[*] posted on 8-2-2009 at 01:52 AM


Love that infectious enthusiasm. several Phannys at NABX pulling heavy buggies at 50 + mph routinely. Bring it to Amelia and I will have a Syn 15m.



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[*] posted on 8-2-2009 at 03:22 AM


I think the phantom so far is my favorite arc! I need some wind so I can try the 15m to confirm that!

granted the only other arc I've tried so far was a 10m synergy



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[*] posted on 8-2-2009 at 08:08 AM


nice and for 50 squids, the deal of the year so far..................................that floss came pretty cheap Ill bet!:o



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[*] posted on 8-2-2009 at 08:31 AM


glad you like the kite mate. i learnt sooooooooo much on that kite. its so stable, it gives you the confidance to try anything under it. just wait until you get it out in 20+mph winds. the height and float are excllant. i got my first 720 on that kite and in the same session got the 1080.

the phanny has risen from the grave. a kite is just a piece of material unless its being flown!!!!!!!!!!!!


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[*] posted on 8-2-2009 at 08:39 AM


ps 27m lines is the norm
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[*] posted on 8-2-2009 at 10:02 PM


yes they truely are sweet!


I hope peterlynn decides to make another high aspect kite like the phantom someday!



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[*] posted on 11-2-2009 at 07:00 PM


JACKPOT!

15-25mph on the ATB for about 15min and ..

Oh yes,.....stupid big air wow best float yet realized then i thinking this is insane jumping like this on land so right to the water

not as much grunt as Venoms but the speed when stretched out is fast and upwind is easy and steep with out work... and all that speed =Vucking nose bleed air ...

incredible, absolutely incredible

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[*] posted on 7-3-2009 at 04:06 PM


two phantom15 sessions on atb back to back

nice on shore around 15mph about 4hours each day
guys down on jekyll should've gotten good air FRI and SAT

PHANTOM15... KITE OF CHOICE FOR THE LAND FOR ME NOW

LIFT ON TAP CRAZY HUGE AIR

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bar pressure has put the callus' on notice... but worth it,, just don't forget the gloves!



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[*] posted on 7-3-2009 at 04:27 PM


Took our 19m venom out today in about 12-13 which dropped 10-8 incredibly smooth and stable kite. dad rode the board and was doin no hands passes.... i am amazed at our smooth these kites are..



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[*] posted on 7-3-2009 at 04:43 PM


Don't know why they have been so overlooked with land people. Twinskins rule inland... IMHO



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[*] posted on 7-3-2009 at 05:19 PM


You're making me wince with all this lift Phreerider. I hope it is as easy to keep the lift controlled as the synergy and montana are. I'm so anxious to get it here. Q-powerline custom set from Coastal Wind Sports already in hand for it.



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[*] posted on 7-3-2009 at 07:18 PM


Was out today on the beach landboarding in some light wind (6-11) with a 15m Synergy. Kinda wish I had taken out the P15. Phantom's are very good for land stuff, really don't care for them on the water though.

Really looking forward to nabx, hope we get some big wind for the smaller phantoms. I'll never forget the first time JD took a spin with the 9m at El Mirage dry lake; he came back expressing his amazement with how confident the kite feels and then asked for his gps for a speed run.

I was flying fixed bridled foils before phantoms, and the buggy wasn't really doing it for me. I had been doing it for a long time, and the comfort level of handles combined with the threat of kite collapse and the re-inflate in the center of the window was always on my mind. This kept me flying kites that were sized for the gusts, not the average desert wind speed. Arcs changed all that. Now I size for the average wind, because the gusts don't worry me.



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[*] posted on 7-3-2009 at 07:49 PM


would have taken the 19m Syn in those winds (6 to 11)......................:lol::duh::duh:



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You're making me wince with all this lift Phreerider. I hope it is as easy to keep the lift controlled as the synergy and montana are. I'm so anxious to get it here. Q-powerline custom set from Coastal Wind Sports already in hand for it.


Like I told you over the phone, if you dont like the Phanny Ill take it off your hands...........:yes::thumbup:



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[*] posted on 8-3-2009 at 04:24 AM


I'm sure it will be fine. I'm encouraged that after months of watching and learning, that the phantom has come to the surface as a much enjoyed kite for land activities and the buggy in particular.



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Took our 19m venom out today in about 12-13 which dropped 10-8 incredibly smooth and stable kite. dad rode the board and was doin no hands passes.... i am amazed at our smooth these kites are..


I found some old aluminum tent poles and discovered that two sections are EXACTLY 132cm which is EXACTLY the lenght required for a 19m Venom spar. Karma. Poles are lightweight and rigid.

So, kite went out to the new sod farm (more on this at a later date). Wind gauge showed 8 to 9 with regular increases to 12mph. With some trepidation (this thing is REALLY big) I put up the V during a low wind moment and took it to the zenith. Immediately the wind picked up to 14.5mph and lo and behold, I was just standing there, hands off the bar, de-powered, without the harness being pulled up around my armpits. Simply amazing!

Did some static flying to feel it out and again, amazed at the turning speed and ease of handling for such a large sail. Hopped on the board with the kite overhead, Flew it back and forth a few times fully depowered without moving. The kite never even attempted to pull me off the board. I pulled the power strap out halfway, dropped the kite from 12 to 3 o'clock, pulled on the bar and began to role. The effect was like smoothly stepping on the accelerator of a vehicle. No jerk, no snatch, simply smooth acceleration. Speed was perfectly controllable by pulling in or pushing out on the bar. To stop, push the bar full away, pull in depower strap, and let go. Kite STOPS PULLING and floats to the zenith. Absolutly perfect from 7mph to 14mph!

Many thanks to Geokite for the sail and Stephdip for the bar and lines. You guys have made me very, very, happy.

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[*] posted on 8-3-2009 at 08:14 AM


Man...it was all I could do to keep the V2 13 in the bag yesterday. I was pushed for time and didn't feel like experimenting so the Pulses got the call yesterday but I plan on busting the PL out on the 21st in Aiken. Is everyone up for Beech Island on the 21st? Let's see how many Arcs we can get up in the air at the same time!



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[*] posted on 8-3-2009 at 08:15 AM


I'm 51 and I feel like I just discoved sex:singing:



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[*] posted on 8-3-2009 at 08:17 AM


It is a little frustrating at first but well worth the effort. I had 15 mph winds yesterday gusting up to 24 and it would just sit up top and wait. Awesome



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[*] posted on 9-3-2009 at 09:27 AM


You bugger! Flying without us newbs huh?! hehehe I thought you said you had to work?

Alberta boys - look what we missed (from ArcUsers forum):
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enough edge to get some nice jumps in. In the 25 mph winds (top edge wind
speed)a simple pop on the bar and up you went and the float was the nicest I've
experienced but the lift can be very quick."

C'mon! You're supposed to be transferring those skills down to us! :lol:



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What are you doing to that kite!?



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I know where I could get a couple of 18m Phantoms, new, kite only....



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[*] posted on 17-3-2009 at 07:29 AM


progress note with the P15

same day on ATB: having a real TOESIDE MOMENT

transition air to TOESIDE followed by scorching down loop turns (both ways)

TOESIDE powerslides

transition air from TOESIDE to TOESIDE

transition air from TOESIDE to heelside

transition air backside 360 (backroll) last of the day finally got one super smoothed out one of those closed eye moments where Vuck it ...and you go wow that was effrotless

any way this is about 21/2- 3hours and 200 trans with side shore wind
it has taken about 2 days for my abs, knees and ankles to feel normal.

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[*] posted on 17-3-2009 at 07:47 AM


That phantom is going to get her feelings hurt if you don't get her on your sig! How much throw does your bar have for the phantom? Any tuning tips to enhance performance in my typical low winds? Put on your non-lift no safety belt in the buggy hat for me.



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[*] posted on 17-3-2009 at 08:28 AM


around 20 inches dead slack at the top which is fine up to about 20mph and stall at the bottom. i have run this knowing i could use more back line tension for heavy winds. i think 15-18inches is normal

end knot on the front leaders gives fullest range, up closer to the kite will blunt it a little. internal strap let it out a little(1/2") at a time for light winds but half gets the most i feel. when the internal strap is let out it softens the feel. go with what you got see how it feels.

lift is a function of the speed of the kite going to the zenith, you control that and you have the bar to sheet out



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[*] posted on 17-3-2009 at 08:42 AM


How do you temporarily land your ARCs PHree? I know you fly alone which I do as well. Is one option to land it LE down and stake the bar with it powered up? Or do you pull the release each time?



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