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[*] posted on 8-3-2009 at 05:06 PM
Changing dual lines for quad lines


I'm looking for some advice on changing the dual lines I have on my kite to quad lines.

I bought a Prism Stylus P.3 that has dual lines as an introduction to power kiting, and I want to try my hand at quad lines now. Can anyone recommend the best way to move to quad lines?

I think I read that I can just buy the brake lines that I can add to the lines I already have on the kite. I would prefer to do this instead of buying two new sets of lines. Anyone know where I can just buy brake lines? Or if it is worth just buying a set of quad lines intsead?

And does anyone know if there is anything online that I can read about how to change to quad lines, or adding the brake lines? I understand I would need to buy handles, but I wouldn't know where to start to change the lines.

Thanks for any recommendations
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[*] posted on 8-3-2009 at 06:05 PM


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Handles or bar would be your preference but lines and kite killers with out a doubt.

I also fly the Prism Stylus P.3 for fun. Stack three of them for a real kick in the pants. Son flies 3 P2's and can scud forever :smilegrin:

I set my P3 up on a quad set with handles and killers... good times!



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[*] posted on 8-3-2009 at 09:00 PM


Check the tutorial section at www.coastalwindsports.com. I think it shows the difference in hooking up a 2 line and a 4 line + will answer questions you haven't thought of yet ! ? You basically just release the row on the trailing edge and attach them to your brake lines.
I expect they can also sell you brake lines + handles there as well?

AWOC from the link above is a good choice if you are on the West Coast



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[*] posted on 9-3-2009 at 05:16 AM


The path of least resistance is to buy a matched 4-line set.
You can buy just a light weight 2-line set and use them as brake lines, but the likelihood of them being the right length of the shelf is small. The brake lines should be the same length as the front lines. You can buy a 2-line set made by HQ and easily adjust the length since the sleeves are hand-knotted and not sewn. A 2-line set is likely to be longer anyway. Un-tie the knots that form the loops at the end of the lines, slide the sleeves down the lines to the correct length, re-tie the loops, then cut off the excess line.



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[*] posted on 9-3-2009 at 11:36 AM


Hey Sailor,
The Stylus P-3 includes 200#x 100' flying lines.
I'd suggest moving those to the bottom and adding a pair of 300# x 100' for your top lines.
Any small difference in length can be easily compensated for by a short piece of dacron attached to your quad handles.

One note of clarification:
Power kite vs. foil kite.
It is quite common for soft ram-air foils to all be called "power kites".
I disagree.
The Stylus , as good a kite as it is, is a recreational foil, not a power kite.
Recreational kites are designed to be flown while standing in one place.
Most of their flight is downwind of the flyer.
Out near the edge their power goes away.

Power kites are designed to transfer energy from the wind into a motive force.
Power kites fly mostly out near the edge of the wind.

One telltale:
Recreational foils often have only two tiers of bridles; the "A" lines just below the leading edge, and the "B" lines just below the "A" lines.
Power kites will typically have another set, the "C" lines, holding the wing into a firmer shape, allowing a bit more ability out at the edge.

(Trailing edge lines are usually termed the "D" lines)

We trade off the added line drag from more bridles for slightly better efficiency.

While you can use a kite like the Stylus with a buggy, others with more specialized designs (of the same size) will be more efficient and go upwind better.

Enjoy!


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