The one advantage I can think of to bringing my board along with my buggy is they're less likely to be conspicuous and banned.

Has anyone here noticed they were able to use boards at beaches and fields where buggy's were banned?

Not in MA where we were banned last year and will be facing some sort of restriction again come Memorial day. For us, the ban was extended to all forms of land based kiting vehicles and it was the landboarders who were kicked off the beach first, before any buggy's even showed up last year. Seems the only safe place was in the water as the ban ended at the shore line so surfers had free reign while the buggy and board crowd had to sit on the sidelines.

I've never been kicked off a field though I have been observed without comment on a few occassions by the parks and rec people who cut the grass and maintain the fields. I'm sure if my board ripped up enough of the grass or if I was scudding they would have kicked me out in a second.

YEP!!!
I see the same thing on the Washington coast.
I will landboarding on the beach near the guys bugging and the police or rangers
always go to them.
one time the rangers went and told the guys with the buggies to pack it up and leave, and I expected to be told the same thing and started to pack up my stuff . when the ranger
came by me he said I was fine and I didn't have to leave :shocked2:
id love to learn to buggy:shocked2: but that's is the reason I'm in no hurry to get a buggy, (I might like it)
:wee::roll::wee:
so thats a great question-- why is that ???:puzzled:

Maybe with it's smaller footprint, the board is perceived to do less damage. Whether this is true or not is beyond me. B:dunno:

I can't even fly the kite alone in the local park here ... the little man in the shed runs out and starts screaming at me. He is, however, in the wrong so I just ignore him and wait for him to go home, so if he does something stupid I don't get hurt or run him over.

What's the law? I don't care if the little man or the pigs think ... it's not their place to decide!

Madkilt - why is that? It's the small-minded control-freaks who get a little power and think they're king of the world and can predict the future cos they know it all about everything and they KNOW that buggies/boards/kites are just so dangerous and someone is going to get hurt so they'll save you from yourself and anyway, they're not having fun so why should you [/rant]

madkiltkiter 's experience was just the kind of example I was wondering about - where'd they go after one over the other in the same place.

I suppose some parks would consider a buggy a "vehicle" and fear it's effect on the grass or it's axles hitting bystanders. Though I inevitably see car tracks torn in the grass in all the local parks.

One irony is that a board's smaller wheel profile could make deeper dents in the grass then wider buggy ones and buggy riders are less likely to launch through the air!

It is all or nothing here.

I think that maybe in Wash. it has to do with the Buggy appearing to be a vehicle . So you are driving on the beach ??????

ATB isn't seen as a vehicle in their eyes ?

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Originally posted by Bladerunner I think that maybe in Wash. it has to do with the Buggy appearing to be a vehicle . So you are driving on the beach ??????

To make ya scratch your head even more is to add this little tidbit... Some of those beaches in Washington that have the ban on buggies, you CAN drive your car on..... :puzzled:

sweet so lets talk about it and get yourself kicked off your beach,

you know NAPKRA can help stop the ban

Hay get this....
:puzzled:
Washington's beaches are almost all counted as state highways -SO- if you cant license and insure the buggy you cant use them .
that means i like to play in the road and a highway :wee: .

but seriously the cars and trucks that go flying by on the beach
1-do more damage than any buggy could ever.
2- when i bring the kids i worry about the crazy drivers in the cars & trucks way more than the buggy drivers.
many times i have to use my kite to slow them down,
you should see the nuts in the cars slow down when i fly a
12meter kite 10 feet in front of there windscreen and park it :shocked2:.
i don't do that very often but after 4 or 5 times zooming by at 30-40 mph most are clueless.
apposed to the people that buggy & landboard who know the damage a powered up kite will do to them self and others.
but what do i know I'm the crazy guy fling a huge kite in a kilt

how can NAPKRA help stop the ban???:puzzled:
:saint:please:saint: tell me more,

It not about common sense, the environment or safety - it's about policing the rules.

oregon's beaches are state highways too!

NAPKRA is a nonprofit organization that responsibly represents buggying in a positive meaningful way. Our network is growing and if you join you'd be apart of something special.

Only issue is, where did jellis go?

Madkiltkiter,

Stopped by and talked to the head park ranger after we split at Greyland, and had a great talk with him. It's not that buggies are the problem, it has to do with the size of the mouth on some people. Not my words but his. I don't like to kiss a-- but you have to play the game and work the system. IMHO I have got to buggy places others have been kicked out of.

I'll be heading back to the beach with my buggy hopefully in the next week.

you can go and get a permit to buggy as well. did you know that?

I grew up riding buggies in Washington, it's best to ask, the permits were available at a campground on the s. end of greyland/wash away.

MY First OBE that put me in the water happened there about 12 years ago

Hey MadKiltKiter, join NAPKRA, lets make this a topic. I'm willing to help with the push to free the beaches, MULTI-USE LAND laws in that state allow everything but sailing,

my question to the state parks, IS, so horses require license and registration? The can move just as fast as a car.

LOL, Yep horses are on the beach and they don't have a plate stuck on there butt:puzzled:. I have just joined NAPKRA, and will try to get some help . bigkid came out to GrayLand and he saw that the old area that was allowed for us to use, IS ALL BUT GONE. and where we were is next to the old area with very low traffic. and the reason for low traffic are the roads are missing "WASHED AWAY"and in his words a perfect area/beach, even as the tide was chasing us out.
IMHO, if the state has banned the sport because of individuals that's so unfair. punish the person not the sport.:thumbdown

I had an issue at a state park in Florida and at first was approached by NAPKRA with offers to help, but was left on my own in the end. I sent an email to the ranger of the park making my case in a polite but informative tone, but got no response. Just saying no is the path of least resistance for him.

I think the bottom line is boards don't look like a vehicle and haven't the wider axle profile.

A semi-related point:

A small river park near here had a tiny beach area. Signs on a nearby pier have always said "NO JUMPING OFF OF PIER."

So, of course, some kid jumps off it - and he gets his feet stuck in the some recently dredged mud. Momma finds a lawyer and next thing you know, NO ONE on the beach is even allowed in the water for the rest of the summer. Maybe since the dredging was done it's back to normal now - I never went back to check.

I guess everyone here knows similar stories. The thing is, some kids ignore warning signs...and some mommas are less attentive to them than dollar signs. No matter - they can still manage to ruin it for everyone else.

It only takes one (supposed) incident (and an idle lawyer).

What chance would an honest, trivial kite accident have in such a public space?