Hi again, I'm sure you guys are getting bored of my constant questions but this will be the last one for a while, maybe...? hah

Anyway, I have a depower kite and a harness, as you do. I flew it the other day and hooked in by putting the loop over the hook, then bending the long "stick thing" (don't know its name) up and through the hook to stop the loop coming off. Now this worked, but I had to bend the "stick thing" quite a lot to achieve this, and I don't know if this is correct.

My landboard progression DVD doesn't have how to hook in, so I'm kind of at a loss here.

Could someone explain?

it should be semi flexible or at least movable and this is normal

an understanding of safety and how to release the set up is important .

practice this before use if not already familiar

the fun is just beginning

The formal name for the stick thing is "chicken loop lock" or "locking finger", but commonly referred to as the "donkey dick" or "donkey dong". sounds like you have it right.

I think I have a Naish bar (Shift system) and they call it 'The Tickler' ... and yeah, it's to stop the chicken loop falling out when you sheet in, especially in light winds I found.
There's a manual .pdf on the Naish site for the bar that describes how to use it - maybe your manufacturer has the same? If not, ask a local ...

thanks for the fast responses guys, yeah it is quite flexible... guess it was right then.

nice one :frog:

Hey Superdog,

Hope you've now got it sorted?!

Matt here, we make the Progression DVD's. It's great to hear little things like this that we may have not included in the DVD. It's one of the toughest parts of making the DVD's, ensuring we've got all content covered, so anything else like this you think we've missed or any general feedback would be greatly appreciated!!

Cheers
MAtt

Hey Matt,

Nothing else i can think of at this point, will U2U if i think of anything. Really good DVD though, good work

Noticed you shot a large portion of it just down the road from me in Goring!

Small world...

It certainly is! Glad you enjoyed it!!

What would you like to see in a follow up to that?

Cheers
Matt

(sorry for all the questions ;-)

I'm not sure what i would like next in the series matt, i haven't really had a chance to do any proper boarding yet cos the weather down here has been pretty poor.

Quick question for anyone out there, the strop line that connects my ozone handles, to hook in on my flow do i just put the rope under the hook? or do i need another device to link them?

All the times I have seen a strop attached is with:

A swivel pulley spreader bar, like the Peter Lynn



OR

A captive pulley block and a quick release (Winchard is very popular)



The strop will move freely back and forth as you are flying and a pulley reduces any friction/abrasion that might be encountered.

Pluses and minuses to both. General wisdom on the captive pulley, is that if the quick release isn't second nature to you, it has the potential of coming back to bite you big time.

You might want to read this thread:
http://community.flexifoil.com/showthread.php?t=147071&h...

Also Angus includes some good insights on his product page for the Peter Lynn spreader bar:
http://www.coastalwindsports.com/servlet/the-475/Peter-Lynn-...


ATB,
Sam

thanks for the help Sam, useful info

I've gone back and fourth between a pulley and spreader bar and I find myself flying on the spreader more often because I don't always like to be hooked in. I may be an edge case, but I usually just fly unhooked, I can't fly unhooked I usually don't fly, but that hasn't happened yet When I do like to hook in is when I'm going hard up wind or am going to turn and pan the kite all the way through the the window and low.

I currently using a windsurfer bar, works great. The thing I've found most tricky is getting the strop length right so that when I do have the kite way over to the side I can still reach both handles and have full control.

In a related note, not a thread hijack, I was thinking about building a strop that has a QR built into it, like the pin style releases on water kites.. but turns out HQ already did... anyone try this yet?

I got one with my Scout and it will transfer some load but the plastic is somewhat grippy on my spreader bar. It might work more smoothly on a roller spreader. I would probably just hold the bar in my hands or switch out to the handles I bought just in case.

How do those equine panic snaps compare to the Winchards?
The snaps are a lot cheaper, and meant to work under a lot of pressure (tons of horse pull).
(They also seem to be preferred in French Canada :smug: )
They don't have a side-pull release (tho one pulley kiter told me he'd prefer that over a side pull).

Quote:

Originally posted by arkay In a related note, not a thread hijack, I was thinking about building a strop that has a QR built into it, like the pin style releases on water kites.. but turns out HQ already did... anyone try this yet?

I haven't tried the HQ one but would like to. I made my strop with a quick release after having and experience with a death spiral where I couln't unhook easy enough. :o I got unhooked but the strop in combination with one KK made it perfect for a continous spiral. Now I use a quick release knot on both ends and an inline quick release.

Probably wasn't a hijack before but is now. Sorry, Superdog sounds like you are doing the right thing. Wow, how amazing to hear from the manufacture on this forum. That is really great. I have been wondering about buying those DVD's myself.

Hey Stetson05,

What are you looking for from a vid? Have you seen any of our short clips?

Matt