Hey i bought a 11 m yarga and was wondering what you think of the fifth line. i have looked all over the net on how to install one and the best site blows any tutorials or thoughts on the 5th line

My Airush has a little tag on the center leading edge that the fifth line larS-P-A-M-L-I-N-K-s heads onto.
I've only used 1 other C-kite, a North (?) Rhino and that was way back when ... the leash went onto the LHS front line - I hated that. The 5th line is a great solution - release the safety and it's totally de-powered!

Its best to run fith line on a c kite. That is the safest way to fly them. What year is your yarga? From 2004 on there was a center loop. on 2004 it was for an inflation leash, from 2005 on it was made for the fith line. I personally ran the north fith element bar. This is a great bar with an excelent release( iorn heart)

it is a 2007 yarga. is the it the only way to reverse launch with a 5 th line

I got a Naish/North (?) Shift System bar ... I really like it but my experience is limited :D

YT you dont reverse launch inflatables. A quick explanation is you use the fith to roll the kite onto its back then pull an outside line to get the kite to the edge of the window, and slowly let the fith out and launch. Its not exact but gives you an idea.

If you havent flown inflatables before you might want to get instruction.

yes this is my first inflatable. I have a foil and it reverse launches super easy.

machineguns in the hands of babies!!!!! i just hope you get a lesson or 2 before you venture on the water.

Take your time and understand fully what you are buying. I have lost a lot of money buying kites that didn't suit my needs and didn't re-sell well. C kites in particular ! C kites hold a place even today in kiteboarding ( on water ) but other styles are more forgiving + able to serve a wider range of uses.

Carltb says it well ! These are NOT a great beginer choice. No matter what. Try and take lessons if you are going out on water !

Explain to us exactly why A C kite is a bad beginners choice?

because there are better beginner kites on the market. safer and more forgiving.

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Originally posted by Bladerunner C kites hold a place even today in kiteboarding ( on water ) but other styles are more forgiving + able to serve a wider range of uses.

No one said they are BAD ? In the right hands !

they are as safe as any other kite on the market. there only downfall is limited depower.

and thst is why there are safer kites out there. more depower = less chance o getting overpowered = safer to learn on. simple equation really.

... and that's why god made safety systems.
Learn to use your safety release, practice with it and don't be afraid to use it - limp kite, flapping down out of the sky may look uncool in front of your buddies, but it's better than injuries or death.
I really like the one on the Naish Shift bar - total depower and completely disconnected from the kite with the safety on the leash in less than a second.

Anyway, if you ain't crashing you ain't trying

i only crash when i push my limits and the differance is my limits are abit more advanced then a noob!!!!

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just a quick image of what can happen...........................................

5 line C-kite wouldn't have gotten that out of shape :tumble:

That video shows exactly why you should be able to activate your quick release in a hurry. It has nothing to do with any type of kite, when two get stuck together anything can happen.

John

Before there were bow and hybrids - what did the learners do for kites? :evil:

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Originally posted by Kamikuza Before there were bow and hybrids - what did the learners do for kites? :evil:

On the water ?

2 line Wipika lei kites !

Now THAT is a BAD kite to learn on !

im not saying a C is a bad kite but a bow or sle are better to learn on

Oh I remember one of the first times I got close to kitesurfing, dude had a Wipika ... looked like a giant flying diaper :o

Yet everyone learns on a fixed bridal kite with no depower and alot of you guys fly fixed bridal so why make a big deal about how much depower a kite has???

obviously you know nothing. so im gunna end with, starting on a 3m fixed bridal on land is alot differant then a 11m C kite (a yarga in this case) on the water. get it wrong on a 3 and bumps and bruises get it wrong on the 11 and ambulances and caskets.!!!

well that is a little harsh seeing as your ending line is if you ain't crashing you ain't trying. Is there a lot of kiteboarding deaths in a year.

Oh and by the way the yarga is a hybrid and has tonnes of depower. I may be new to C kites but I do have a lot of big foils.

IMO a trainer kite's purpose is to teach people who to handle the kite. Once they can steer it around the sky without thinking about it then they're ready to have a bigger kite in their hands and learn to harness the power.
But I think to jump straight into a big kite without enough experience in handling is a mistake, no matter if it's foil, C, bow or hybrid. I guess though that if you have experience with the smaller ones then you're not a beginner, are you?

I don't consider 4-line foils to be non-depower ... I reckon they depower more than depower kites do :D definitely think they are more controllable ...

Yarga is a C, is it not?

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Originally posted by yt35 it is a 2007 yarga. is the it the only way to reverse launch with a 5 th line

all my comments came about because of this statement.........

obviously you havnt flown a c kite or had any lessons and think you can reverse launch a kite on the 5th line. it just shows to me that you need a totally differant kite then the yarga.
i dont know who sold you this kite but i can guess it wasnt a kite shop. most probably ebay special!!!!!!

anyway its your life and what happens in your country doesnt effect my beach , so go nuts. i suggest taking it out in 30+mph during a thunderstorm just to try it out. lol.:wee::wee:
snobdr can give you advice on this!!!!!!!!!!

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I'm a beginner, new to the sport. What setup should I buy? What size kite and board would be best for me?
Do not buy anything before you've first taken a lesson, unless it is a small 2-line trainer kite and a trainer kite video, which you learn to use before your lesson. Lessons are extremely important, because there are are a lot of safty aspects to this sport and a lot of things to know before you get out on the water ... not just for your own safety, but for the safety of everyone around you.



Also, if you buy something now, without knowing ANYTHING about the sport, you will most likely make the mistake that many people new to the sport make: buying the wrong equipment, whether it's the wrong kite size for your weight and prevalent wind conditons, kite type, kite model, etc. Once you have a few lessons, your instructor will be able to recommend a good setup for you, and will take into consideration your weight, and the conditions in your area, and will help you come up with a working quiver.



A big mistake people make is buying equipment right away ... they see cheap deals on the internet somewhere or on E-bay, and not knowing anything about technological advances in the last couple of years, think, "A kite's a kite, how wrong can I be?" They can be VERY VERY wrong. With the introduction of bow kites, or SLE kites, in late 2005/early 2006, the sport and the industry has changed dramatically, and the last thing you want to do, as a first time beginner, is to purchase someone's old 4-line or 5-line C-kite, which has very little depowerability, and is not as user-friendly as the bow, or SLE, kites. Even if it looks like a great deal, stay away from purchasing a C-kite as your first kite ... your learning curve on bow kites will be much faster ... bows/SLES stay in the sky much easier, are generally easier to relaunch, have more depower, and are more forgiving than C-kites.



In the beginning, you'll want a larger board, which is easier to get up on, as it has more surface area and is easier to balance, but you also don't want to buy the largest board you can find, as you will quickly grow out of it. Take a lesson, ride your instructor's board, and see what feels right for you. You may still not have a feeling of what you need at that point, but your instructor will be able to give you some advice.



The best beginner kite in our lineup is currently the 08 Waroo. However, it is not a kite you will soon outgrow. As our best selling kite ever, it is enjoyed by beginners and pro riders alike.

Did best mention their #@%$#!ty safety on the waroo? My friend just lost her kite because of this. Wasnt even an emergency, just wanted to wind up kite, Pulled safety, it failed and kite relaunched uncontrolable, she had to pull second safety and bye bye kite.
Imagine that as a beginner, pull your safety get yanked around and have to release and see you hard earned cash go bye bye.

I learned on a 4 line c back in the day, i didnt get killed or hurt. I 5 line c may not be the best, but its not the worst either.

I was in hatteras and seen four times where people launched their bow/sle and almost took bystanders out because they were yanking in on the bar back stalling the kite into the middle of the window then letting it power up.

C kites are simple, dont have to worry as much about where the bar is.

Oh wait i spend 75% ot the time on waterand fly inflatables, i dont know what im talking about.

You should listen to Carltb im sure he has much more experence with this than I .

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twinskins and mountainboards guess he knows everything about inflatables

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IF YOU AINT CRASHING YOU AINT TRYING!!

Yea ok.