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how do i attach a chicken loop to a 4 line bar ?

OllieN - 22-10-2009 at 02:09 PM

Well the title i think explains it, how do i attach a chicken loop to a 4 line bar ( non depower) , i did my research and learnt that i just like hook the chicken loop onto the spreader then put the " donkey dick " through the spreader hook thing.

but i am stumped when it comes connecting the chicken loop to the bar itself, :o

thanks

carltb - 22-10-2009 at 02:17 PM

a 4 line bar that is not a depower bar can not use a chicken loop. the closest thing you can get to it is a strop

strop.png - 13kB

carltb - 22-10-2009 at 02:19 PM

the pic is a flexifoil bar and the strop is the large loop.

Bladerunner - 22-10-2009 at 02:44 PM

That is what Dakitze ( and I ) call a D-loop.
It is exactly what you want.
I can't speak for the 5.6 but when I tried the 7.7 twister on a stock P.L. bar it was lousy.
Maybe a crossover bar might work better but I just ordered my 7.7 Twister on handles.

OllieN - 22-10-2009 at 02:46 PM

is this not a chicken loop ? http://www.atbshop.co.uk/images/ozone/ozone_imp_ks_quark_i.j...

the loop thing connected to the bar ? and if so , i dont see how it is connected to the bar

Maven454 - 22-10-2009 at 02:48 PM

That's a three line trainer kite. Not a four line kite.

Bladerunner - 22-10-2009 at 02:52 PM

YES, that is a chicken loop but the Imp isn't a normal kite.

You either want the new bar by ozone or a D-loop for a stock P.L. bar.

Maven454 - 22-10-2009 at 02:53 PM

HQ also makes a D-loop. I don't know which is cheaper, the PL or the HQ.

OllieN - 22-10-2009 at 02:59 PM

ahhhh the new ozone bar, just what im looking for !!! thanks for that. And when people say a bar on the twister is lousy, what would you meen by that. atm im on handles

Bladerunner - 22-10-2009 at 03:12 PM

The new ozone bar is a whole new ball of wax. I suggest you read about it + search for it in a past discussion on here.

The bar that the Twister comes with doesn't allow for much brake input when you turn the kite. The front lines do the turning and the back just sort of rolls to follow. This made a big kite like the 7.7 super slow to turn because there was almost no brake input.

I have made a thing called a crossover bar. It gives 2 / 1 brake input to the kite relative to how hard you turn. This helps a LOT with bigger fixed bridles.

Why are you so keen to go to a bar ?

YES HQ and P.L. make a D-loop. ?

indigo_wolf - 22-10-2009 at 05:35 PM

FWIW:

The bar on the Ozone Flow uses a Chicken Loop.

ATB,
Sam

Bladerunner - 22-10-2009 at 07:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by indigo_wolf
FWIW:

The bar on the Ozone Flow uses a Chicken Loop.

ATB,
Sam


The Flow is a kite ?

Probably it comes with the new bar ( turbo ? ) that has a chicken loop.

The only person I know with a Flow got it on handles ?

indigo_wolf - 22-10-2009 at 07:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bladerunner
The Flow is a kite ?

Errr...ummm... Yes.

Quote:
Originally posted by Bladerunner
Probably it comes with the new bar ( turbo ? ) that has a chicken loop.

Ummm... no... standard FB 4-line bar. The Flow was available through dealers quite a bit (comparatively) before the Ozone Turbo Bar was. :sniff:

Bar Features
Quote:
Originally posted by Bladerunner
The only person I know with a Flow got it on handles ?

Wanted to try it on a bar... have a spare set of Flexi ProLink Handles when I want to fly it on handles.

ATB,
Sam

Maven454 - 23-10-2009 at 03:01 AM

I've got a Flow on handles. I absolutely love it.

Bladerunner - 23-10-2009 at 06:38 AM

So, how does the bar / kite use a chicken loop + a wrist leash ?
How is it attached ?


This must be it but I still don't see how it is attached ?

indigo_wolf - 16-11-2009 at 03:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bladerunner
So, how does the bar / kite use a chicken loop + a wrist leash ?
How is it attached ?

Sorry... missed the last post.

Here's how the FB bar sets up with the Flow:
http://www.outriderweb.com/forum_posts/pkf/flow_on_bar.jpg

ATB,
Sam

WELDNGOD - 16-11-2009 at 04:09 PM

When I made my version of the turbo bar, I used a torsion release wichard on 1/4 Amsteel. That goes through the bar
and to the power lines pulley. After I built it, I realized that I could have just bought a chicken loop. I might still get one , so I can get my wichard back. I need to get my hot wire rig back together. I don't want to buy another 75-80$ wichard.

indigo_wolf - 16-11-2009 at 04:26 PM

Wichard pricing does tend to illicit a love-hate reaction. Nice kit and all that cold shiny steel, but can get spendy and doesn't necessarily promote the rushing out to get backup items.

That and the odd bits tend to take a bit longer to special order that most other products.

Hot-wire rig? Share with the class.... pretty please :smilegrin:

ATB,
Sam

WELDNGOD - 16-11-2009 at 05:53 PM

no can do, it would be improper for me to tell everyone how to kill themselves. I should not do it , nobody should ..... but ....... Ummm....... nevermind.....
Hey, how bout that nor'easter?

indigo_wolf - 17-11-2009 at 12:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WELDGOD
no can do, it would be improper for me to tell everyone how to kill themselves.


Sure you could. Think of it as a twist on the cliche... "I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you."

This way, you would just be saving yourself some work.

;) :wee:

Noreaster?!?!?!? Noooooooooo :no: I have a couple of days off.... I need sunny skies and fair breezes.

ATB,
Sam

acampbell - 17-11-2009 at 09:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by carltb
the pic is a flexifoil bar and the strop is the large loop.


Odd, I've never seen a Flexifoil D-loop. Their Extreme Bar (for fixed bridle) comes with a chicken loop, top-hat safety and leash, every bit like a depower bar.

FWIW, Peter Lynn makes a D-Loop as well

indigo_wolf - 17-11-2009 at 09:35 AM

The 2004 or 2005 Bullet manuals show a harness strop (D-Loop) for the Control Bar option (thankfully with what looks to be a quick release).

Oddily enough, I was looking through them, while researching something else.... insomnia is just not pretty sometimes ;)

ATB,
Sam