power - 22-11-2009 at 09:34 PM
How common are kiteloops done when landboarding? I know you see pushkiting guys do it, but is this like really extreme, or just a way to get some more
distance and hangtime out of a jump?
tobytobsen - 23-11-2009 at 12:27 AM
It's not very common in the Düsseldorf Area, and we have some of Germany's best Landboarders.
PHREERIDER - 23-11-2009 at 06:37 AM
in light air maybe 10mph about half of my transitions are jumps with a loop most all back loops. adds a little grunt and keeps the kite moving .
in higher winds the power is greater so you don't have to loop it to keep it flowing.
we 've had a lot of side shore lately and too light for the water but a 2hr session with about 200 transitions may contain 50 plus loops . some
times i get lazy with redirects a loop catches things up nicely. in chad's world its common.
flyjump - 23-11-2009 at 07:01 AM
I've also seen those videos too. The last few sessions I've been trying to learn jumping kiteloops. From what I've seen not many landboarders do loops
like that. Most people only loop in a turn to keep power. Carltb is the only other person I've seen do them on land. Well that and gunner the guy who
used to ride for PL. It seems the only people that do fully powered loops on land are team riders. So I don't know if many back yard locals can do
them "well"
carltb - 23-11-2009 at 09:35 AM
if you intend to do any comps then it is essntial that you can loop. if you are just cruising round your loal then its a matter of preferance. its
just another trick to learn. on most uk beaches there will be at least one person who will be pulling sick loops.
power - 23-11-2009 at 09:51 AM
What are comps?
carltb - 23-11-2009 at 09:55 AM
competitions
power - 23-11-2009 at 09:58 AM
O ok. How much does it power you up compared to just a usual redirect?
carltb - 23-11-2009 at 10:06 AM
alot depends on the kind of loop you do. if you do a down loop at the end of a turn then you tend to kill most of the power by going downwind. if
you do heli loops (top of the window) then you get resonable "wang" but if you do a full on ballz to the wall mega loop then you can get pulled out
of your shoes!!
power - 23-11-2009 at 10:12 AM
Videos of each? I know there's one loop where you direct the kite in the opposite direction that you're travelling and then just keep it going until
it makes a loop, but I don't know any other kinds.
PHREERIDER - 23-11-2009 at 10:41 AM
mega loops on land, smoking hot i've seen lewis do a few . can't remeber the vid
that's alot of wind, alot speed, and u need alot of run out space. for land i'm passing on that one. do a huge air, then throw a loop at the
apex. for water only in my book
kite backloop airs on trans. both land and water give a good snap, alot of speed downwind . the loops i pull on the water are in about 13-15mph or
so with keeping the kite fairly high in the window. i remember the first couple where just shockingly fast but doable. adding the back roll with
the loop is where i'm at and waiting for the "moment" to step into it.
lewis wilby mega vid? blackpool? maybe, seems like it was before that, carl posted the vid about 6-8months ago i think during a water competition
f0rgiv3n - 23-11-2009 at 10:59 AM
http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=10796 :P
carltb - 23-11-2009 at 11:18 AM
mega loop - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDV0CKBGw38 done by the best
heli loop - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBmuT_ECRqI read comments
down loop transiton - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axGkmJYeO1A
carltb - 23-11-2009 at 11:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yePj6Brbesw
len10 loopin
PHREERIDER - 24-11-2009 at 07:46 AM
nice vid reference, carl
2 points
...keeping the kite high and somewhat depowered during the loop makes the kite come around quickly . if kept in for full power loop a mega loop is
on the way!
...having a kite quick enough to come around helps this timing component, a smaller kite equals a quicker kite , so quick handling allows snappy
loops,... as i moved to smaller kites loops just became a flow of power and speed.
power - 24-11-2009 at 10:07 AM
To me the video of the Mega loop and the Heli loop look similar in technique, except for the fact that Hadlow's boosts him about 10 times as high. The
video of the Heli loop was actually the video I was describing in one of my posts above. So what's the real difference between the two?
carltb - 24-11-2009 at 10:44 AM
the heli loop if nothing like a mega loop.
in the hadlow vid the kite is level with him.
PHREERIDER - 24-11-2009 at 12:08 PM
power, speed and wind conditions ...
looping in 30knt wind on a full bore ride is caapultt speed 25mph ride to 50mph in sudden snatch. OH Vuck ,gulp!
helio loop in 15mph gets the" WEEEEEEEEEEEEE" fair ride fun.
power - 24-11-2009 at 04:52 PM
So its basically like a Big-mac versus a supersized combo meal with fries and a drink:bigok:
arkay - 24-11-2009 at 05:55 PM
I think downloops for a transition are fun on land provided you're not overpowered 
PHREERIDER - 25-11-2009 at 09:04 AM
a switch to toeside and then a down loop turn ...these are nice, really a board riding skill though. commit the kite to a down loop,... then turn
the board and fall back on to the kite for speed ( now u r ready for a hot jump in the sequence)
can be intimidating if speeds are already pretty high,
a down loop turn TO TOESIDE on a down wind running turn was a challenge for me . took quite a few low wind runs to get comfortable with that one .
i much prefer a jump to toeside. these are great fundamentals that help add real flow to a session and can be run in an huge figure 8 line of riding.
power ----mega loops are gut checks, real apex intensity ...the wind the speed, all of it . the 30 ft drop at about 40 mph ..its sick! these
are the impacts that produce ruptured eardrums, concussions, neck strains , broken bones etc
power - 25-11-2009 at 10:05 AM
Oooo. Sounds like that really is only a water thing
ikemiester - 2-12-2009 at 05:44 PM
I stop doing loops at about 12-14mph otherwise, I run out of hard sand.:bouncy: