Power Kite Forum - Why O lord ...? Need to rant

Why O lord ...? Need to rant

Kamikuza - 31-5-2010 at 05:24 PM

Why, when PUBLIC park means I have as much right to use the park for recreation as any one else there within the boundaries of good manners and common sense, do you think it excludes everyone except you?

Why, when there is only you and me in the park, do you have to walk right in front of me?

Why, when I walk miles down the beach away from everyone else, do you feel the need to come and stand right where I'm trying to fly?

Why, when I explain it simply and clearly, do you not #@%$#!ing listen when I tell you "Don't stand there"?

Why, when you get a shock from something unusual, do you think you can go and moan about it and get it banned while your baseballs and soccer balls bounce off my car and your dog tries to savage people sitting on the grass and your frisbee is bouncing off the back of my head and your kids on bikes are crashing into my shins and you think that's no problem?

... apparently, all wind sports (excluding single line kites strangely enough ie. Japanese kites) have been banned at my fav park in Hamamatsu cos quote "someone dropped a kite near someone" ...

#@%$#!ing moaning whinging self-centered sissy #@%$#!es

bug - 31-5-2010 at 05:34 PM

I agree totally :mad:

Todd - 31-5-2010 at 05:49 PM

I'm not even going into the people that felt a need to DRIVE their Mercedes Benz up to my kites and banners to see them in the field today. :crazy:

I don't know how they missed the line sets.

People are curious by instinct but ignorant when it comes to their own safety.

newtokiting - 31-5-2010 at 05:52 PM

its always best to be friendly and yield--we are in the minority it seems, with people wanting to ban buggying etc.,so even if you are right and the other person is a tard--its best to just grin and bear it and live to fly another day........

Hardrock - 31-5-2010 at 06:03 PM

Man thats gota suck.

I can't find parks big enough to get banned from. But if I did and really liked the place it would be terrible to lose it.

I've been stuck on the same dam little hill forever. :lol:

mougl - 31-5-2010 at 06:05 PM

This is the exact reason my house will be on the market asap. As Hardrock stated, it's hard enough to find a place to fly to begin with let alone finally finding one and finding out wind sports are banned because of some whining.

Time to pick a kite friendly place on the map and go...

Hardrock - 31-5-2010 at 06:30 PM

Hey you might be on to something mougl.

Start calling real estate agency's and request to see areas that are kite friendly.

We could have real estate agency's all over talking about how they lost a sale due to kite bans. :lol:

I like it!!!!

Kamikuza - 31-5-2010 at 06:44 PM

I dream of going back in time and cutting a swath through the landscape with my samurai sword and laying claim to a large tract of the coast line and putting up a great #@%$#!off big fence along it :lol:

"KITES ONLY"

newtokiting - this is a rant/moan/complain thread ... in other threads I'll be consolatory and accommodating, but in here - #@%$#! them all!

This dude on Sunday, after he asked about the kite and I explained a little; it went like this.
Strange English cos it's a direct translation of my poor Japanese.

Me - "Soon I will send up my kite. Please don't stand there."
Putz-san - "Oh you want me to hold it." and he moves to grab the downwind tip.
Me - "No please do not touch it."
Putz-san - "Oh really" and he goes back to standing in the front of the LE.
Me - "Soon I will send up my kite. Please don't stand there. The kite will go that way. It is dangerous, that place."
Putz-san - "Oh you want me to hold it." and he moves to grab the downwind tip.
Me - "Do NOT touch it."
Putz-san - "Oh really." and he goes back to standing in the front of the LE.
... you see a pattern here? :rolleyes:

Me - "Ok I'm going to put up the kite. Please take care." and I motion for him to move away.
Putz-san - "Oh you want me to hold it." and he moves to grab the downwind tip.
Me - "(FFS YOU #@%$#!ING MORON - English) No. Do not touch. Go over there."
Putz-san - "What, over there?"
Me - "Yes. The kite will go that way. Stand there is dangerous. Please go over there"
Putz-san "Oh." stomps off in a bewildered manner.

You can see that smack-tard just downwind in the launch vid on my blog.
I'm all for nice people put FFS ... leave me alone. I don't disturb you when you're enjoying your hobby and stand in front of your lens when you're trying to take phots ...

flyjump - 31-5-2010 at 06:49 PM

Lynx69 and I thought about going to the parks board people with single line spiderman kites and asking them why we can't fly our kites in te public park lol. Is there rocketry or remote contol planes or helicopters there? That's what we confronted our local park ranger with so he would let us fly again there. Sorry Kami

sorry for your frustration

Hardrock - 31-5-2010 at 07:15 PM

Little off topic. But when we started flying we went to a really nice Baseball Park down the road. This place is kept looking fine with so many fenced in fields, pretty grass, it looks like some professional top of the line parks.

Well we would just pick a field and walk in and fly. I started noticing the park trucks stopping and hanging around a good bit. People at the large building with a gym where all the registration takes place would come out and look or stare you might say.

So one day I found some information to read. You must reserve the field you want to be on in advance. Even if its just practicing with your kid or to have a game.

Well they lets us fly but I'm sure they didn't like it. Didn't feel wanted there anyway so we gave it up. Now we've got beyond the P3., it wouldn't be a good place anyway.

Just saying, rules everywhere ya go.

mougl - 31-5-2010 at 07:17 PM

"Putz-san" :lol:

teelzy - 31-5-2010 at 07:41 PM

Awesome rant thread. I can't lie. Sorry about your loss though. I must know, what is putz-san? I'm guessing it's something "naughty" if so a u2u would suffice

Hardrock - 31-5-2010 at 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by teelzy
Awesome rant thread. I can't lie. Sorry about your loss though. I must know, what is putz-san? I'm guessing it's something "naughty" if so a u2u would suffice

LOL, I tried to translate it in google, but being two words, I'm thinking its two naughty's in one.

Kamikuza - 31-5-2010 at 08:34 PM

Putz ... pillock, plonker, butthead, braindead ... obliviot.
San ... Mr.
So I'm Kevin-san.

Yeah there are #@%$#!ing rules everywhere here too - the rule is basically "If it's not on the OK list, it's not OK" and the OK list is very very short. You gotta book and pay for the use of the public places that your tax dollars have already paid for :dunno:

I can understand having rules for the genuine #@%$#!s out there but seriously - when there is nobody else in the park, I'm taking pains not to rip the grass up and I can obviously control the kite - why bother throwing your park warden weight around?

So, like all good Japanese citizens, I just wait till the authorities leave then do what the hell I like. And at the park the other day, there were staff members there - plenty of them around - but they said nothing. Like all ballsy Japanese citizens, if you ignore the authorities and do it anyway, you get away with it.

Yes we have RC planes, helicopters and cars etc and I can see why those should be limited - but #@%$#! me they got their own little club fields!

Get this ...

Was down at THE ONLY KITE BEACH IN THE STATE a few weeks back. It's maybe 500m long and about 50m deep to the trees but soft loamy sand so you can board there. We launch and fly when it's northerlies though.
Playing with the Ace when these two guys come down onto the beach and start running up and down. Fine, I thought, they're all the way down the other end no problems.
Then the #@%$#!heads come and set up a DIY sprinting track - right bloody behind me. Then they wander around right under my lines. I'm like "Dangerous yo" and they're like "Oh sorry (#@%$#! you)".
FFS you can run ANYWHERE along the lake front if you want to enjoy the scenery, ANYWHERE in the #@%$#!ing state but you gotta come to this beach, the ONLY beach we can fly kites and in the whole beach you gotta come stand around right next to me ... #@%$#!s.

flyjump - 31-5-2010 at 08:41 PM

Well if it is a kite beach crash an old kite into them after warning them of the dangers. Told ya so moment? They can't complain because it's a KITE beach!

Hardrock - 1-6-2010 at 01:12 AM

Even so, you guys all seem to keep your cool and not get out of control at that moment.

Here is a short clip of our Bro Mougl testing out the V19m in light wind.

You'll see a truck on the beach, driving safe and slow. However there was one spot he had to go through that scared the crap out of me.

Mougl was caught a little off guard but didn't panic or get upset. But he was lost by the camera man or we may have been able to read his lips. :lol:

Sometimes we need a little Patience so I added a bit of G&R.
Also left the clip long for Mougl's viewing pleasure.

Kamikuza - 1-6-2010 at 04:38 AM

Yeah surprises me too when I don't punch some of these people in the head.

Damn that Venom looks good

mougl - 1-6-2010 at 06:00 AM

LOL! Didn't even know that was being filmed :lol:

Wow, my first arc flight captured....damn trucks

Bladerunner - 1-6-2010 at 06:46 AM

You ned to start a club to open spots.
Call it JAPKRA ! :D

bobalooie57 - 1-6-2010 at 07:04 AM

:thumbup:

Yeah, those PL twinskins look great in flight, all of them IMHO. Ya gotta hate it when other people unknowingly or unintentionally put themselves or you in danger, but some seem to know just what they are doing, yet do it anyway. Grrr... @br, then kami would have to get a buggy, shipping no good :no:

. But if he walked down a few back alleys in Shiga, looking for a guy welding in his back yard, with photo's of an extreme apexx, I figure the guy would build him two for the price of shipping alone! Then lookout mr. putz-san! Think of the speed and terror he'd provide to the moron's who insist in getting in the way!:wee:

mougl - 1-6-2010 at 07:16 AM

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Originally posted by Bladerunner
You ned to start a club to open spots.
Call it JAPKRA ! :D

Drewculous - 1-6-2010 at 10:41 AM

i hear ya on this.... 1 evil word... soccer... the bane of my existence

lol

WIllardTheGrey - 1-6-2010 at 11:38 PM

A kite on a fishing pole... 200 yards of spectra maiming nylon or worse cotton, spread right down the middle of the longest tack.:flaming: Just nasty.:flaming:

Kamikuza - 1-6-2010 at 11:39 PM

I'm surprised nobody pointed out the irony of ...

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Originally posted by Kamikuza
#@%$#!ing moaning whinging self-centered sissy #@%$#!es

BTW I'm in a much better mood today :D

flyboy15 - 2-6-2010 at 04:00 AM

I'm gunna make a blade banner that says "DO NOT COME ANY CLOSER, SHOUT YOUR QUESTIONS"

Maven454 - 2-6-2010 at 04:13 AM

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Originally posted by flyboy15
I'm gunna make a blade banner that says "DO NOT COME ANY CLOSER, SHOUT YOUR QUESTIONS"

rocfighter - 2-6-2010 at 07:46 AM

Kami I have felt your pain. A couple weekends ago at a kite fest. We were flying power kites. I had a 4m and the kid had a 2m. We decided to take a break and get a drink. As I walked away I looked back just in time to see some guy headed right for the kite. I yelled hey don't touch that it can kill you as I started to run to him. He looked at me and grabbed the leading edge and tossed it into the air. It went up past his face and due to the brakes being on full it came right back down and damned near clobbered him. I was still running and saying get away from it as he did this. (hoping in my evil side it would hit him)
I asked him why he did it and his comment was " I have flown kites for way longer than you and this one is screwed up. It should have gone right up" I asked if he would like me to show him how it is flown. And he said "I already know how to fly a kite"
So in the end it is proven once again. People are stupid and know everything. And we know nothing.
"Eliminate warning signs, Promote natural selection"

Hardrock - 2-6-2010 at 08:23 AM

Gesh, He was asking for it. Told he not to touch it and he grabbed it anyway?

What an a$$.

bobalooie57 - 2-6-2010 at 08:23 AM

I probably would then have offered him the handles, at his own risk, of course...I never can understand how someone can feel justified in handling other peoples stuff, mostly under the guise of 'helping out'. I've had 12 yr olds that listen better than adults when it comes to flying kites.

PHREERIDER - 2-6-2010 at 08:38 AM

best i've done

someone from a group ask if they can help

i say YES! all of you can !

Great what can we do? the smartest of them all asked.

i pointed to a small piece of driftwood about 30 yds away. "do you see that small piece of drift wood over there ? " got the nods. " if everyone could go over there and stand right beside it things would be prefect"

they comply

i launch

and jet ! distance is the best you can do

indigo_wolf - 2-6-2010 at 08:51 AM

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Originally posted by Hardrock
Told he not to touch it and he grabbed it anyway?

My problem is that he had to be told in the first place. What happened to "It's not yours, leave it the F*@%^K alone."

I would probably relent a little bit if you had later found him in the parking lot checking the tire pressure on everybody's car and topping off where needed..... in that case, bless his little heart.

ATB,
Sam

bobalooie57 - 2-6-2010 at 09:02 AM

:thumbup:

Good one Phree, use their own eagerness against them! :ninja:

smoooooth!

Hardrock - 2-6-2010 at 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by indigo_wolf

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Originally posted by Hardrock
Told he not to touch it and he grabbed it anyway?

That reminds me of the two guys I found in the boat landing parking lot, making sure everybodys car doors was secure.

indigo_wolf - 2-6-2010 at 09:39 AM

:lol:

Thanks for the smile.

ATB,
Sam

pokitetrash - 2-6-2010 at 10:28 AM

Frankiter and I were once flying a 4.5 Cult in a ballfield area (no game on) and this guy stalked up to us and right out asked if he could try it. I asked him if he ever flew a 4 line and he said "yea, yea.. " as he proceded to grab the handles out of my hands while the kite killers were still on my wrists!! Pretty much ignored my instructions. I figured he was drunk and the wind wasn't that powerfull, just enough to maybe pull someone off their balance --and he pissed me off, and ssooooooo..... Against all better judgement, I handed him the handles kinda hoping for a spectacular faceplant. I know that it was irresponsible of me but he DID piss me off! He then proceded to rocket the kite into the sky, flail around like you'd expect and then back up running backwards for some reason and WHAM! Kite slammed into the top of a wooden light pole. Stuck.

He tossed the handles back to me and said "Sucks for you..." and stalked off again. My brother in law and I gaped, looked at my kite dangling from the top of the pole, gaped at him again. I was too awestruck at the audacity to kick the crap out of him (not to mention I havent been in a fight since 3rd grade...) !

I guess I got what I deserved, and I learned my PR lesson--I should have just seen the situation for what it was and said "no". He could have gotten hurt and that would have been bad for kiting. (but he did piss me off!! )

Still though, the public has no clue about these kites. We have to resist the urge sometimes. But he REALLY pissed me off!!

PHREERIDER - 2-6-2010 at 12:16 PM

POkite ...that guy is running up quite a karma bill!

about the time..."...sucks for you" reach my reptilian center, the earth would have reach up and encouraged a change in his facial features and demanded some body parts to remain for his penance. my guiding hand swiftly there to show the way.

and admitting to him that it only proper to SHARE the suck factor with him.

pokitetrash - 2-6-2010 at 12:36 PM

Yea Phree! I love your way of thinking! :lol:

I thought of a bunch of evil things to do to him AFTER I yanked my kite off the poll with my eyes squeezed shut...

Kamikuza - 2-6-2010 at 05:42 PM

:lol:

reptilian center ... is that a legal defense?

I had a park warden try to kick me out of the park by telling me "Paragliders not allowed" so I suggested he take my Bullet 4.5 to the top of the hill (just over there) and jump off ... I think it lost something in the translation though ...

People who touch - prevalent here because as kids they're not taught that they're the bottom of the food chain eg. no respect for other people or their property and they grow up to be ignorant, oblivious & self-absorbed. They get a rather nasty fright encountering me or - worse for them - the wife.

Flying my stunt kite at a park, I'd landed it and a kid walks up and picks it up and is about to play with it when I yell at him and he drops it.
Wife says "Don't touch that!"
Kid says "I didn't touch it!"
Wife says "Yes you did!"
Kids says "No I didn't!"
Wife says "Yes you did and don't call me a liar, you brat!"
Kid's mother comes over ... "Don't yell at my kid!"
Wife says "You should teach him not to touch other people's property!"
Kid's mother says "He didn't touch the kite!"
etc

:ticking:

Actually that kind of conversation goes on a lot now I think of it :lol:

don't even start on people clambering over my bike :ticking:

Hardrock - 3-6-2010 at 12:36 AM

Hmmm I think I'll brush up on the SLEEPER.

When someone approaches the kite, just run up behind them and put em out. When they wake, politely say, was there something I can help you with!

Oh reminds me, a story coming.

Second wife, had a son, maybe 10 years old at the time, didn't stay with us. But every time we had him he was the devil. I mean a real evil satin devil. I dreaded those times, kicking the back of the car seats, running across the back of the couch, cutting the phone wires. and the list goes on.

Well he's over one weekend, I've had enough, he's laying on his tummy watching TV and being quite but I know whats gona happen when the toons go off.

I go get my good leather belt, sneak up behind him and wear his a$$ out. Mommy is screaming, he's rolling in the floor crying, why did you do that, why did you do that.

I said next time you get out of line, thats what is going to happen to you.

Never again did that kid ever act up around me. It was the perfect solution. I guess his little bottom had been belt free until then. :lol:

pokitetrash - 3-6-2010 at 03:28 AM

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Originally posted by Hardrock

I go get my good leather belt, sneak up behind him and wear his a$$ out.

Yea, let's all wear wide lether belts to the field! Nothing says "pay the **&%!# attention" like the "fwap, fwap,fwap,fwap" of the belt getting yanked out of the belt loops and being prepared for a down home a$$ whoopin'! I don't want to have to buy new Peter Lynn sticks but they would make awesome switches!

Kamikuza - 3-6-2010 at 03:31 AM

So, that'd be the EX-second wife now then huh Hardr?

Good use for old worn out sticks! :thumbup:

my Phanny 15 got a pair of nice Coastal sticks and I got spares :D

Hardrock - 3-6-2010 at 11:51 PM

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Originally posted by Kamikuza
So, that'd be the EX-second wife now then huh Hardr?

ROFL, yea you got it. But thats not all.

pokitetrash - 4-6-2010 at 05:03 AM

Hardrock, its amazing you afford to fly anything except a paper kite with all those ex wives in your quiver! :lol:

You can be like me and say to the next one like I said to my wife about flying R/C planes--"I've been flyin' before I met ya, and I'll be flying after yur gone...."

Well you can imagine the chin music tackometer red lined on that one. I don't fly so much....

Hardrock - 4-6-2010 at 09:32 AM

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Originally posted by pokitetrash
Hardrock, its amazing you afford to fly anything except a paper kite with all those ex wives in your quiver! :lol:

Yea man, I can tell you from around here.
Your not missing a brother are you? :lol:

Your right about the paper kites too. It takes years to recover. I haven't yet and got one in Beaufort that won't help pay for the D. But that one didn't clean out house and take the light fixtures, wall switches and anything else she could get off with a screwdriver or putty knife. :lol:

Theres a true story there.

Sweet thang is different tho. about 4 years in, we never been in a fuss. I'd did one of them double #@%$#! slap moves on any guy that said there was a perfect woman before I met her. But now I'm convinced there is such a thing.

Dude, remember this tho when the fine a$$ babe walks by. No matter how good she looks, somewhere there's a man sick and tired of putting up with her chit. :lol:

doesn't apply to the above,,,looking over my shoulder now.

Reminds me, got to put something in the wanted section for her. :lol:

Flying G Zeus - 4-6-2010 at 02:56 PM

First of all this RANT thread was a great idea! Nothing worse than having a good rant ruined by empathetic, mamby pamby, reasonable people. That can be almost as frustrating as the cause of the rant.

What we need is some good o'l fashioned conviction! Conviction of the multitudes of @#$%ing morons who frequent the beaches and get in the way of our right to kite! So far, there have been quite a few 'funny cuz it's true' posts. Thanks.

My turn! I've set up kites to be launched at secluded beaches 2km. wide only to have a family with children 2 and 5yrs.old set up within 10 ft. Then watch me and friends kiting on the water doing 20ft. jumps, doing tricks, and wiping out all over the place, and position themselves in the worst possible place in the water WITH THEIR KIDS as if begging me to clean out the whole family! Like a moth to a flame! This scenario has played out several times. Why don't they clue into the fact that the same power which makes 20 foot jumps possible can also be disasterous when it gets out of control! Swear to God, lemmings have a stronger survival instinct than a lot of beach goers.

Fortunately, I live in a place where we have lots of beach and not so many beachgoers most of the year. Mainly because it's cold.

Kamakatsu, I taught in Taiwan for several years and got to know Asian culture. The scenarios you mentioned bring back memories. I can see it happening! If kiting is really important to you then my suggestion is to leave. Go to Thailand or the Philipinnes! It's heaven by comparison!

Kamikuza - 4-6-2010 at 03:57 PM

Hey ... Zeus. I am not a slice of pork, BTW :lol:

Thailand was awesome! Although there were dick kiteboarders doing the slalom through swimmers at the beach, there is more than enough space to get out and have fun. At Pran Buri, I had the whole place to myself!
It's the numpties on the land I worry about ...

Oh yeah and the #@%$#!ing kids who have a great time pushing sticks into the sand so they stick out like those pits of death the Viet Cong used to make - WTF are these people thinking they're doing?!?!

And don't start me on the neighbor - I think I've spared you guys that story but I'll be needing some advice on revenge tactics before we move house eh ...

Hardrock - 4-6-2010 at 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by Kamikuza

Oh yeah and the #@%$#!ing kids who have a great time pushing sticks into the sand so they stick out like those pits of death the Viet Cong used to make - WTF are these people thinking they're doing?!?!

Ahh hahahaha, you'be got to be kidding. Its Nam all over again!!!!

Especially when that bad to the bone Phantom comes down on the death traps.

rocfighter - 5-6-2010 at 05:05 AM

Kami, The Kid learned about Pungee sticks one winter when we went tubing up north. He decided he could get a running start and fly over the safety burm at the bottom of the run. And he did it (way to go kid) but behind this safety burm was about 100 or so sapplings that they had chopped off with a machetty nice and pointy. Not much blood was spilled and his snow suite was getting to small any way! But he didn't learn from it as he kept trying to do it again.
Well he is a kid what can you do!!!

Kamikuza - 5-6-2010 at 07:46 AM

Lucky for The Kid! :o

These sticks are being pushed into the sand on the shore of the kite beach - I can only assume that people are either truly that retarded that they don't think about people stepping on them, flying kites into them, swimming onto them etc or they are doing it intentionally :no:

rocfighter - 5-6-2010 at 12:44 PM

Well it sounds like they are ignorant, @ss's with very poor judgements. Or just plain mean and nasty.