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This guy just keeps showing up

Bigbear97e - 30-10-2011 at 08:15 PM

Looks like our flea-bay buddy jonesbrand is back .... www.extremekitesusa.com .... this guy doesn't not seem to ever give up .... if it's not him, I retract .... but Glidemastor gtx350 ... come on ... at least spell it right:mad:

Don't want to create a whole discussion about it.... this person ain't worth it .... uninformed forum members beware

shehatesmyhobbies - 30-10-2011 at 08:40 PM

He is definitely putting a ton of effort into it now, and I know you got this one right, went to his ebay site and saw his items, then clicked on a kite and that home page was all over the description.

good find there Bear!

lamrith - 30-10-2011 at 08:47 PM

Just keep letting us newbs know..

That guy makes his $$ on new people that do not know any better, not much we can do to stop him other than educate...

RedSky - 30-10-2011 at 09:52 PM

So you saying this guy is a rip-off merchant ? :karate:

shehatesmyhobbies - 31-10-2011 at 02:53 AM

Reds here in the U.S. this guy is known for selling knockoffs on eBay. He has several user names on eBay and has been the topic of several booming threads on pkf. Do a pkf search for jonesband in topics and you will see the various threads.

Not sure if he went legit now or not.

dylanj423 - 31-10-2011 at 03:43 AM

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Not sure if he went legit now or not.


if this guy went legit i will change my name to lucy and grow out my pigtails...

... some people never change

pokitetrash - 31-10-2011 at 05:19 AM

Checked out the site. Shows kites and an "add to cart" selection but I couldn't find ANY way to select a size although the descripti0on shows sizes the kites come in. The descriptions are pretty much from the manufacturer's site. Seems like an uniformed person would buy a kite not knowing what size they're getting. And that Glidemaster is a knock off of a Cloud 9 Kite Trike-- while not a bad beginner buggy, ---you can can pick one up for $299 shipped from Cloud 9.

lamrith - 31-10-2011 at 05:28 AM

Looks like he is even dabbling in the Rev market as well.

markite - 31-10-2011 at 06:59 AM

I came across him listing Peter Lynn buggies for sale on ebay as well with the typical story -
"I have a Peter Lynn Competition XR buggy for sale. I bought it on Amazon new but never had the chance to ride it and now need the money"

It must be a bait and switch.

ebay item # 180724470737

or just search Peter Lynn

pokitetrash - 31-10-2011 at 09:31 AM

Yea, I looked at his other things for sale and low and behold he has another "New" "USA Model" (WTF that means... ) buggy that is linked to the Extreme web page...

Also nature has a way of telling you to avoid something harmful like porcupines are sharp, skunks stink and this guy has a disclaimer in all his advertising that says this: " Please avoid leaving negative feedback so all future warranty claims or refunds can be processed quickly." :no::no:

lamrith - 31-10-2011 at 10:01 AM

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Originally posted by pokitetrash
" Please avoid leaving negative feedback so all future warranty claims or refunds can be processed quickly." :no::no:


AKA if you don't kiss my backside and say I'm great I ain't gonna do anything when you have a problem with my POS products...:ninja:

MikeDobbs - 31-10-2011 at 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by lamrith
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Originally posted by pokitetrash
" Please avoid leaving negative feedback so all future warranty claims or refunds can be processed quickly." :no::no:


AKA if you don't kiss my backside and say I'm great I ain't gonna do anything when you have a problem with my POS products...:ninja:



Yeah seriously- before I found PKF I saw an auction on eBay from this guy and I was thinking about it until I saw that disclaimer. Obviously not someone you'd want to deal with!

lamrith - 31-10-2011 at 11:22 AM

On a Ebay side note... Has anyone ever complete an auction, paid via Paypal and had the auction listing vanish from your "My Ebay" page?

I completed this auction Buy it now last week. I paid within hours, got email from the seller that it was paid. The listing was still available and the seller updated the unit to shipped and a tracking number yesterday (10/30). I went to look at the tracking today and the entire listing is GONE, it does not show in my ebay, and the listing # is marked invalid? And now the seller is listed as "no longer registered". But yet as I was researching peopel were still leaving feedback for them (all positive).

I am just baffled. all my years of ebaying I have never seen or heard of this? I KNOW I was on ebay site. I always hand type the url to ebay and search from there..

pyro22487 - 31-10-2011 at 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by pokitetrash
Checked out the site. Shows kites and an "add to cart" selection but I couldn't find ANY way to select a size although the descripti0on shows sizes the kites come in. The descriptions are pretty much from the manufacturer's site. Seems like an uniformed person would buy a kite not knowing what size they're getting. And that Glidemaster is a knock off of a Cloud 9 Kite Trike-- while not a bad beginner buggy, ---you can can pick one up for $299 shipped from Cloud 9.


I was thinking the same thing when I saw the Ozone Flows for $449. First thing i thought was what size and color. although from most retailers the 5m is only about 410 maybe.

I will give him props for the professional looking site. It may not be legit but he is at least having to put effort into his ripping off.

shehatesmyhobbies - 31-10-2011 at 12:52 PM

Ouch Lamrith, sounds like you may have been taken for a ride. Give it a week or so and then make a claim on ebay. email them your transaction number and see what they can do for you. I have been fortunate to not have any issues like that before. Hope it resolves itself quickly!

lamrith - 31-10-2011 at 01:03 PM

I went in via dispute resolution on ebay, ebay had record of the auction there, and 2 steps in showed it as shipped with tracking number (Which is what I was looking for when I found the issue) .

I have tracked and the number is valid and in the shipping Co's system, so all should be ok..

Crossing fingers!

macboy - 31-10-2011 at 05:56 PM

Something odd though - there's a phone and address.....

Extreme Kites
USA International
4300 Bay Area Boulevard Suite 2021
Houston, TX 77058
Phone: (713) 319-5547

pyro22487 - 31-10-2011 at 11:14 PM

send van to flush the guy out. thats just a small hop for him. maybe make him stop selling his ebay crap and overpriced merchandise.

Wolfpaklv - 8-11-2011 at 09:54 PM

He has a PL XR+ for double the price. Looks like he is trying to push these eolo buggies.

pyro22487 - 8-11-2011 at 10:16 PM

yep we had a thread not to long ago. also ripoff merchandise.

van - 9-11-2011 at 07:11 AM

According to his address, he's just right there near Kemah .. about 40 minutes from me or Dylan. Dylan, you in for some pouncing?? haha ... it would be a great stress reliever from school. :singing:

We do have the DBBB event coming up. We can get the whole gang together and drop by his house.

Houston AirHead - 9-11-2011 at 08:28 AM

His office is in Houston, look at his contact me section.

How do you know its Jonesband?

van - 9-11-2011 at 04:31 PM

It's the same guy ... that's the same address he's had all these years.

shehatesmyhobbies - 9-11-2011 at 04:53 PM

I find the easiest way to know it's him is to look at his other items. He always has a bunch of odd and ends type stuff with a few kite and buggy stuff included. Can spot him from a mile away!

pyro22487 - 9-11-2011 at 05:40 PM

see i knew van would be up for it. lol. true dbbb is a good time to do it.

Bladerunner - 9-11-2011 at 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by pyro22487
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Originally posted by pokitetrash


I will give him props for the professional looking site. It may not be legit but he is at least having to put effort into his ripping off.



This guy could make a real living if he wasn't a psychopath. He has created a few of his own forums to prop up his own stuff. Cleverly locking us out. Lazy NO . Crazy YUP ! :megan:

Since he is so close and such a kite enthusiats somebody really aught to give him a personal invitation to DBBB ! ;-)

WELDNGOD - 9-11-2011 at 06:23 PM

check this $@!# out...... http://www.aboutus.org/BestKites.com

BeamerBob - 10-11-2011 at 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by WELDNGOD
check this $@!# out...... http://www.aboutus.org/BestKites.com


So maybe our fake friend needs a profile too?

pyro22487 - 10-11-2011 at 11:54 AM

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Since he is so close and such a kite enthusiats somebody really aught to give him a personal invitation to DBBB ! ;-)


Not a bad idea. Who wants to send him the invite and don't send him the link to pkf.

ripsessionkites - 11-11-2011 at 01:31 AM

I have contacted this guy several times by phone and email.

First he will not return my calls because I asked him nicely to remove PL from his site. He gave me some lame excuse by email how if someone wanted to buy a PL kite he could get one for from a distributor. I responded that this was not possible as there is only myself and PL direct that supplies to authorized dealers in canada and USA.

He doesn't get it that I just want the images removed.

In his last reply to me (forward to Dino for a laugh) was that he would remove any products from his website if quote "my friends" on PKF would stop bashing his business.

I must dig up the email again and post it here.

ripsessionkites - 11-11-2011 at 02:29 AM

Have your buddies at powerkiteforum.com remove the following thread immediately ! Smear tactics can be done by both sides. If it is not remove in 24 hours, we will assume you would like to continue playing this game and we will play ! You have more to lose because of your wider product line, so we would recommend you end this now.

http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=19097
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Message from Extreme Kites
From: Peter Lynn USA <support@extremekitesusa.com>
Date: Sat, August 20, 2011 3:20 am
To: support@extremekitesusa.com

From: Peter Lynn USA
Email: richard@vliegerop-usa.com

------------------------------------------------------

hello

i was forward your website from a customer. please remove your images of the
Peter Lynn Products. you are not a PL Dealer for us, and you're using this
without our authorization.

please contact me should you have any questions

Richard Lui
Peter Lynn USA / Vliegerop USA
360 - 325 - 3774

pyro22487 - 12-11-2011 at 12:28 PM

thats funny. i cant wait for the next product to bash.

pyro22487 - 15-11-2011 at 01:58 PM

deleted and moved.

lamrith - 2-12-2011 at 02:37 PM

Hrmmm yet another set of knockoff units?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/QUAD-LINE-KITE-STUNT-KITE-4-LINE-KIT...

This the same guy? Didn't think so since says China, but never know? Or is 4mkites a factory selling rebranded knockoffs?

WELDNGOD - 2-12-2011 at 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by lamrith
Hrmmm yet another set of knockoff units?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/QUAD-LINE-KITE-STUNT-KITE-4-LINE-KIT...

This the same guy? Didn't think so since says China, but never know? Or is 4mkites a factory selling rebranded knockoffs?

This isn't him...... item location is china. Just about everthing on ebay that is located in china is a knockoff product. Mp3 players from there come w/pre-installed malware. Buyer run to the hills!

lamrith - 13-2-2012 at 02:41 PM

This clown is back under another new Ebay name. (video_1274)

Just an FYI and to get this to the top so the newbies see it.. Don't buy his junk!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-USA-Model-5-Yr-Warranty-Power-Tr...

I wonder how many potential new fliers have gone on ebay looking and found thie guy. Bought one of these POS kites, have not been able to get it to fly and quit the sport in frustration? grrrrrrrrr!:moon:

Have to love his replies to bad feedback too, Classy! Nothin like a bit of mudslinging to make you look like the crap tools your hawkin!!:singing::roll:

BeamerBob - 13-2-2012 at 02:48 PM

"Please avoid leaving negative feedback so all future warranty claims or refunds can be processed quickly."

Makes me want to buy from him. :rolleyes: He has so much trouble with unhappy customers, he has to address it right up front with this blackmail.

Drewculous - 13-2-2012 at 02:50 PM

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:D

Smeagol - 13-2-2012 at 03:33 PM

I like how it says "beware of imitations!"

Riiight. ;-)