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One buggy one kite one pilot one passenger

ripsessionkites - 21-11-2012 at 01:05 AM

New record!!!!

Sending details to popeye. Finally get my stuff in order one day at time

90km/h - ozone yak gt 3.0m / libre bug

Alvord Drylake

RedSky - 21-11-2012 at 07:52 AM

That's shifting. (Sorry to any Irish out there) Any video ?

thanson2001ok - 21-11-2012 at 10:03 AM

That's fffaaaasssttt!:evil:

dirtslide - 21-11-2012 at 11:55 AM

nice job, and you did it without a Peter Lynn or a Apexx ;-)

dirtslide - 21-11-2012 at 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by dirtslide
nice job, and you did it without a Peter Lynn or a Apexx ;-)
who was the rider?

popeyethewelder - 21-11-2012 at 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by ripsessionkites
New record!!!!

Sending details to popeye. Finally get my stuff in order one day at time

90km/h - ozone yak gt 3.0m / libre bug

Alvord Drylake


World Kite Buggy Record Criteria

jellis - 21-11-2012 at 03:33 PM

One buggy one kite one pilot one passenger one liar.

Todd - 21-11-2012 at 03:40 PM

TMOC


:lol:

RedSky - 21-11-2012 at 04:15 PM

Triumph Motorcycle Owners Club ?

BeamerBob - 21-11-2012 at 06:14 PM

True meaning of Christmas?

Todd - 21-11-2012 at 07:15 PM


popeyethewelder - 21-11-2012 at 11:25 PM

Rips must have travelled that fast, his name has changed to Tom Fenn on facebook

markite - 22-11-2012 at 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by popeyethewelder
Rips must have travelled that fast, his name has changed to Tom Fenn on facebook


definitely in a time warp - yesterday it was Sam Sung

pyro22487 - 22-11-2012 at 07:29 AM

sam sung is what i see on face book. never mind he changed his name again.

markite - 22-11-2012 at 07:57 AM

as long as it's not sung of sam

jantie - 22-11-2012 at 01:57 PM

congratz..!!!!

its time someone take's a shot at the buggy-towing-buggy with two kite's..

:spin:

macboy - 22-11-2012 at 02:43 PM

:puzzled:

Holy am I ever out of the loop......I'm lost. Rip's changing his name to Toshe Eeba?

RonH - 22-11-2012 at 07:01 PM

I was never in the loop...

Let's here about it!!!

I don't care if you don't have the criteria for having it listed on Popeye's website. I know I won't ever have all the necessary stuff to be listed at the top. I just ride and if I hit a pb, cool.

Ron

Bladerunner - 23-11-2012 at 06:55 PM

WoopWoop
Kite Loop!

soliver - 25-11-2012 at 10:22 PM

What's the update on this? Has Rips been able to supply all the necessary requirements to PTW?

No offense to parties involved, but has this proven to be legitimate? If so that is friggin fast!!!

Just curious.

popeyethewelder - 26-11-2012 at 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by soliver
What's the update on this? Has Rips been able to supply all the necessary requirements to PTW?

No offense to parties involved, but has this proven to be legitimate? If so that is friggin fast!!!

Just curious.


nothing in my post.....

soliver - 26-11-2012 at 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by popeyethewelder
Quote:
Originally posted by soliver
What's the update on this? Has Rips been able to supply all the necessary requirements to PTW?

No offense to parties involved, but has this proven to be legitimate? If so that is friggin fast!!!

Just curious.


nothing in my post.....


Yeah, I had noticed that Brian Holgate's name was still at the top of the list, so I figured either the proofs were still "in transit" or not yet verified, or it didn't workout for Rips...

So I guess that means his speed is essentially unverifiable?

shehatesmyhobbies - 26-11-2012 at 05:52 PM

Actually, Ricardo still holds this record. It sits at 86 kmh. Brian holds the record for fastest 1 buggy, 1 pilot, 1 kite.

markite - 26-11-2012 at 08:24 PM

Keep in mind the first message on this thread is kilometres per hour - about 55mph

I can see having a category for one pilot and one passenger especially if you are towing a second buggy or riding a buggy set up with two seats, but I gotta say from a safety point of view, in the future should we dissuade anyone from taking a passenger standing on the back axle? Going so fast on a dry lake or anywhere with a person just crouched and holding on is an accident waiting to happen if the buggy were to suddenly swerve and the person fell off at that speed. This isn't to take away from anything achieved to this point but thinking ahead as a sport that should also promote safety whenever we get the chance.

bigkid - 26-11-2012 at 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by shehatesmyhobbies
Actually, Ricardo still holds this record. It sits at 86 kmh.

Dont forget Maria holds that record also.

BeamerBob - 26-11-2012 at 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by markite
Keep in mind the first message on this thread is kilometres per hour - about 55mph

I can see having a category for one pilot and one passenger especially if you are towing a second buggy or riding a buggy set up with two seats, but I gotta say from a safety point of view, in the future should we disaid anyone from taking a passenger standing on the back axle? Going so fast on a dry lake or anywhere with a person just crouched and holding on is an accident waiting to happen if the buggy were to suddenly swerve and the person fell off at that speed. This isn't to take away from anything achieved to this point but thinking ahead as a sport that should also promote safety whenever we get the chance.


This is the problem I can't get past to go beat the current record. Who do I put on the back? One of my sons? Does the change in buggy dynamics adversely affect handling? I've decided over and over again not to ask someone to sit on the back axle. It's not worth the risk to me. Now the 2 buggies with 1 or 2 kites tandem records? It's still on the table for me and I have a perfect tandem hookup now.

RedSky - 26-11-2012 at 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by markite
Keep in mind the first message on this thread is kilometres per hour - about 55mph

I can see having a category for one pilot and one passenger especially if you are towing a second buggy or riding a buggy set up with two seats, but I gotta say from a safety point of view, in the future should we disaid anyone from taking a passenger standing on the back axle? Going so fast on a dry lake or anywhere with a person just crouched and holding on is an accident waiting to happen if the buggy were to suddenly swerve and the person fell off at that speed. This isn't to take away from anything achieved to this point but thinking ahead as a sport that should also promote safety whenever we get the chance.



This category should remain. Only experienced rider will ever obtain the high speeds nessesary to come anywhere close to the current record. I really don't want to see fun categories like this removed in the name of safety, because what are we protecting if we remove all the fun?

I hope anyone attempting this record will first question their abilities and evaluate the risks to themselves and the public as not to bring the sport into disrupt.

Helmets for both rider and passenger, adequate protective clothing for the surface you're riding on and insurance.

RedSky - 26-11-2012 at 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by BeamerBob

This is the problem I can't get past to go beat the current record. Who do I put on the back? One of my sons? Does the change in buggy dynamics adversely affect handling? I've decided over and over again not to ask someone to sit on the back axle. It's not worth the risk to me. Now the 2 buggies with 1 or 2 kites tandem records? It's still on the table for me and I have a perfect tandem hookup now.


Yes, the buggy dynamics change. You'll be ok on a wide open Playa where it's not necessary to powerslide to stop but try to powerslide on a narrow beach and nothing happens. Too much weight on the back prevents the back breaking away. Leave it too late to slow down and you're in trouble.

Is attaching a platform for the passenger allowed ?

geokite - 26-11-2012 at 09:18 PM

I hope we are not hoping to keep our sport safe in the eyes of insurance companies based on a hope that only experienced pilots will attempt such a record.

Can we at least attempt to look like we care about these things folks?

markite - 26-11-2012 at 10:03 PM

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I really don't want to see fun categories like this removed in the name of safety, because what are we protecting if we remove all the fun?


I wasn't suggesting removing a category or to remove any achievements up to this point. Just saying that in the same way we tell people to wear helmets and practice some degree of safety - wouldn't it be wise to say you shouldn't be driving a buggy at high speed with a person simply holding onto your side rails while standing on the back axle. On a dry lake if a person loses grip or the buggy swerves for any number of reasons there isn't anything that is going to save the person on the back from serious injury.
I'm putting it forward for discussion to look at categories like this and maybe saying we do not encourage free standing on a back axle at high speeds or perhaps come up with some basic equipment or set up that must be used for riding the back of a buggy if not in a tandem seat.

BeamerBob - 26-11-2012 at 11:10 PM

When I have considered breaking this record, it has seemed best to have the passenger sitting on the axle with legs crossed between the side rails. The passenger's legs would rest on the seat straps. I would have to remove the rear number plate and cross bar to open up the spot. Even with this sort of #@%$#!pit for the passenger, I'm afraid of something happening fast like it can over 50 mph and causing the passenger to get tossed. It's likely that everything would go fine, but...........

I don't think we need to remove this or any other record, I'm just stating my thought process and that I personally can't reconcile the risk to my passenger with the small notoriety that would come by breaking or setting some record that really doesn't mean that much in the big scheme of things.

MDK - 26-11-2012 at 11:19 PM

stupid people are going to do stupid things no matter what we say or do. I like the category, you have to go through a lot prep work just to prove you done it, I think already the rules will promote planning and preparation, but keep in mind, there will always be stupid people. I was giving rides last weekend and the buggy was prepared with a seat, handles and stirrups for the passengers and of course we always use protective gear and I have insurance. My daughter Tyler and I just reached 30 mph, we had a blast!

popeyethewelder - 26-11-2012 at 11:26 PM

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Originally posted by markite
in the future should we dissuade anyone from taking a passenger standing on the back axle? Going so fast on a dry lake or anywhere with a person just crouched and holding on is an accident waiting to happen if the buggy were to suddenly swerve and the person fell off at that speed.


All speed records can be dangerous, and should be respected and treated with caution....I will never break the speed record, because I consider the winds needed too dangerous....I have mentally made my own risk assessment, and that should happen with every risky situation

heliboy50 - 27-11-2012 at 12:16 AM

Well we are all hurtling around in 3 wheeled, tip over prone, non crash tested vehicles with no brakes that we steer with our feet. Just sayin'.....

shehatesmyhobbies - 27-11-2012 at 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by bigkid
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Originally posted by shehatesmyhobbies
Actually, Ricardo still holds this record. It sits at 86 kmh.

Dont forget Maria holds that record also.


Very true Jeff. My mistake, I did not leave Maria out intentionally, or mischieviously. ;-)

WIllardTheGrey - 27-11-2012 at 04:00 AM

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Originally posted by heliboy50
Well we are all hurtling around in 3 wheeled, tip over prone, non crash tested vehicles with no brakes that we steer with our feet. Just sayin'.....


I'm stealing that:thumbup:. Well said.

RedSky - 27-11-2012 at 05:32 AM

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Originally posted by geokite
I hope we are not hoping to keep our sport safe in the eyes of insurance companies based on a hope that only experienced pilots will attempt such a record.

Can we at least attempt to look like we care about these things folks?


Having insurance proves that we care and take responsibility.

Record attempts like this aren't taken lightly. I just fear self imposed restrictions on record attempts like this by people who can't or won't do it themselves for whatever reason. That wouldn't be fair.

bigkid - 27-11-2012 at 07:43 AM

With all the talk about removing, or keeping this category, and all the thoughts from everyone who will be in the pilot seat, I would like to hear from Maria on whether she would do it again or not.
I know for myself that putting anyone on the back axle is asking a lot of the person. I would never ask my wife to "have a seat". Sorry, I would never put my wife in that position or ask her so I can be a BMOC and get my name posted on a list..
I spent last weekend with the rumble seat and a weight setup for the front axle so I would be able to use the front tire for what it was designed to do. Just giving rides at very low speeds with someone on the rear axle scares the hell out of me, I know I am the only one who feels this way, Just saying.

Scudley - 27-11-2012 at 08:25 AM

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Originally posted by RedSky
Having insurance proves that we care and take responsibility.
Record attempts like this aren't taken lightly.



Really? How does getting insurance, which removes liability and financial risk, prove caring and responsibility? It proves you don't want to put your assets at risk.
I was not there, but my understanding the first record was done pretty much on the spur of the moment without much prep or thought put into it all.
You will notice that Guinness does not keep certain types of records anymore to limit their liability from encouraging people to do dangerous and stupid things for fame or profit.
S

RedSky - 27-11-2012 at 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by Scudley
Quote:
Originally posted by RedSky
Having insurance proves that we care and take responsibility.
Record attempts like this aren't taken lightly.



Really? How does getting insurance, which removes liability and financial risk, prove caring and responsibility? It proves you don't want to put your assets at risk.
I was not there, but my understanding the first record was done pretty much on the spur of the moment without much prep or thought put into it all.
You will notice that Guinness does not keep certain types of records anymore to limit their liability from encouraging people to do dangerous and stupid things for fame or profit.
S


Third party public liability insurance. I don't know what insurance you have but mine doesn't cover assets and nor did I seek it out. We have a responsibility to the public who share our beaches.

When the wind is blowing 50mph on-shore I doubt if I or anyone would ask someone at random to sit on the back axle.

Also, nobody is asked to do something they don't want to do. I wouldn't ask our wives unless they were fully aware of the risks. The candidate must be a fellow buggy rider, not wife or kids. That's just common sense. No one is placed on the back.

Scudley - 27-11-2012 at 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by RedSky

Third party public liability insurance. I don't know what insurance you have but mine doesn't cover assets and nor did I seek it out. We have a responsibility to the public who share our beaches.

When the wind is blowing 50mph on-shore I doubt if I or anyone would ask someone at random to sit on the back axle.

Also, nobody is asked to do something they don't want to do. I wouldn't ask our wives unless they were fully aware of the risks. The candidate must be a fellow buggy rider, not wife or kids. That's just common sense. No one is placed on the back.

Your third party liability protects assets such your home from being seized to pay damages, provided you have enough to cover any damages.
Is the current record valid by your criteria? Was Maria a buggier at the time?
S

bigkid - 27-11-2012 at 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by RedSky
Also, nobody is asked to do something they don't want to do. I wouldn't ask our wives unless they were fully aware of the risks. The candidate must be a fellow buggy rider, not wife or kids. That's just common sense. No one is placed on the back.

I had to have a second look and now I understand.
The way life in the UK is NOT like the West
Coast of the USA. The East Coast of the US is just as different as the West Coast is. Not that we are people with 1 eye and 3 arms, but the thoughts, ideas, and attitudes are as different as day and night. Unless you are from here, you really have no idea of the people or the way of thinking.
We do not need or require insurance for anyone in the USA to operate a wind driven vehicle. If we belong to NAPKA or NABSA we are covered by the insurance if we attend one of their events. Most of us have personal medical insurance, but it is not required.

As for the wind blowing 50mph and someone riding on the back axle of a bug, where there are people, there is an idiot ready to fill the spot of stupidity. You tube is full of those type of people, if it is possible for someone to think up an idea, there are those that will do it whether or not they are able to pull it off. Why do you think the words,"don't try this at home" came about?

I wouldn't ask my wife, my kids, my grandkids, or YOU, to sit on the axle while I try to be the fastest. I have a bit more respect for everyone including YOU, than to put someone else in a position of danger for my own pride. Whether we have a waiver or some type of disclaimer to sign, we are still liable for anything that could happen. Maybe not where you live, but here we have to many lawyers and greedy idiots who can and will take your money. Or maybe I am wrong.

MDK - 27-11-2012 at 10:23 AM

um guys, I think we all agree having someone sit on the rear axle willy nilly to ride and/or attempt to break the speed record is a bad idea.....right? there will be people that do stupid things no matter what we do or say, no matter whether it is a category or not, even if it is against the law they will do it, to say we encourage this behavior is ludicrous. if we are taking the proper pro-cations then if anything we are setting the right example and that is all we can do.

popeyethewelder - 27-11-2012 at 11:17 AM

I have taken someone on the back around 50mph, I used to do it all the time, that was how I got different camera angles a few years ago when I started recording runs...most of the time it was 30 or so mph....I even had my younges son about 16 at the time sitting on my rear axle, one hand holding on one hand holding the camera....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_vbNt0HbHU&feature=plcp

I had so much fun taking people on the back and they did too....also when Riccardo was asking for volunteers for a sitter at the back of his buggy during nabx 2012....to try an break the record, I jumped at the chance, I would have no worries doing that with an experienced pilot....unfortunately he injured himself early into NABX and was side lined for most of the event.

Incidently, I have noticed Riccardo is now "selling all his gear" on facebook......again...hope he is ok...I mean really ok

bigkid - 27-11-2012 at 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by popeyethewelder
unfortunately he injured himself early into NABX and was side lined for most of the event.

I'm glad you didn't go with on that run.

heliboy50 - 27-11-2012 at 12:37 PM

Ok I think I got this straight. Anybody who does something outside the norm is wreckless, irresponsible, and stupid? That's it. Selling my kites to go back to dual line stuff, cutting up my buggy, and buying a rockville.

bigkid - 27-11-2012 at 01:12 PM

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, How far outside the box we talking about?:puzzled: Are you able to grab onto part of the box if all heck breaks free?:lol:

Maybe stupid was a tad bit over the edge, on second thought, it was way over the line. How about courageous, outrageous, and intelligent?
"wreckless, irresponsible, and stupid", were the thoughts going through my wife's head as she was told by the ER Doctor, "I can't believe he made it into the ER, by all rights he shouldn't have made it off the beach". But what the hell does the doctor or my wife know.

Guess its the glass is half full, half empty thing.

MDK - 27-11-2012 at 01:30 PM

It sounds like I just called pops stupid....see what you guys made me do :)
I'm sure if pops felt that he was putting his boy in a unreasonable amount of danger then he would have come up with something different. what I mean by stupid things are things that are clearly stupid. I watched the video of Ricardo and Maria setting the current record and although I would have set up a proper seat for the passenger, I didn't see it as being stupid, she looked reasonably safe to me, I mean for what it is anyway. I think we are all nuts for what we are doing here but I think most of us are using a reasonable amount of cation as well........can we end this now before Josh puts his gear on the for sale page :)

popeyethewelder - 27-11-2012 at 01:58 PM

ha ha...Mike, I didnt think that for a moment....and Jeff we all respect what you have been through, and listen to your caution ad advice.....

The reality is we all make our own decisions in life and what risks we are prepared to take, of course some times, even with calculated risks we get caught out as you did, but, the reality is no matter what anyone else says.....we make our own choices....if you looked at the runs I did with my lad and the guy I did over 50mph with....niether were as safe as Maria was....my guys were litterally sitting on the rear axle, with their legs over the side rails.....their feet litterally an inch or so off the sand, and if their feet had caught the sand, boken legs would have surely resulted, hence my very strict instructions to "keep your feet up".... add to that the danger of hanging on with one hand and videoing with the other.....like you mentioned..."Please do not try this at home folks"...

I probably broke every unwritten rule in the book....we were lucky, others may not be....I do not tell anyone what they should or should not do, they make their own choices in their lives and hopefully right choices.

I never went out to break any records, just to capture on board buggy video footage, and this was 5-6 years ago....there was very little on board footage at the time, and this was a great way to let viewers have a little insight to what our sport looked like from our point of view.

Nowadays, there are great sports cameras and great camera mounts, I have no need to carry people on my rear axle

I BTW, am not trying to wind anyone up or cause any controversy, but I do enjoy these types of disscusions

shehatesmyhobbies - 27-11-2012 at 03:16 PM

Very well said Carl!

I know my wife has gotten used to the idea that I put a big kite up and take off on a buggy or board. Or strap a kite to me and go into the water. She used to hate it,(hence the name here shehatesmyhobbies) but has gotten used to it. I am lucky enough to have only scored a couple broken ribs, and a bruise here and there. But that is the risk I was willing to take when I took in to this sport. Eventually we all get hurt sometimes, it's part of the game. We can do our best to minimize the consequences, but the risk will always be there.

Stay safe boys and girls!

Ride on!

csa_deadon - 27-11-2012 at 03:45 PM

I hate veggies!

sunset-Jim - 27-11-2012 at 04:21 PM

I like turtles

mougl - 27-11-2012 at 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by sunset-Jim
I like turtles


X2

soliver - 27-11-2012 at 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by shehatesmyhobbies
Actually, Ricardo still holds this record. It sits at 86 kmh. Brian holds the record for fastest 1 buggy, 1 pilot, 1 kite.


Oh poop!!! I feel like a major dufus.... I totally missed the bit about "1 passenger"

Thank you for pointing out my lackluster skills of observation :lol:

Woot woot! Go Rips!!!!!!!

sunset-Jim - 27-11-2012 at 06:43 PM

I forgot to add this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y&noredirect=1

shehatesmyhobbies - 27-11-2012 at 06:47 PM

That's funny!

RedSky - 27-11-2012 at 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by bigkid
Quote:
Originally posted by RedSky
Also, nobody is asked to do something they don't want to do. I wouldn't ask our wives unless they were fully aware of the risks. The candidate must be a fellow buggy rider, not wife or kids. That's just common sense. No one is placed on the back.

I had to have a second look and now I understand.
The way life in the UK is NOT like the West
Coast of the USA. The East Coast of the US is just as different as the West Coast is. Not that we are people with 1 eye and 3 arms, but the thoughts, ideas, and attitudes are as different as day and night. Unless you are from here, you really have no idea of the people or the way of thinking.
We do not need or require insurance for anyone in the USA to operate a wind driven vehicle. If we belong to NAPKA or NABSA we are covered by the insurance if we attend one of their events. Most of us have personal medical insurance, but it is not required.

As for the wind blowing 50mph and someone riding on the back axle of a bug, where there are people, there is an idiot ready to fill the spot of stupidity. You tube is full of those type of people, if it is possible for someone to think up an idea, there are those that will do it whether or not they are able to pull it off. Why do you think the words,"don't try this at home" came about?

I wouldn't ask my wife, my kids, my grandkids, or YOU, to sit on the axle while I try to be the fastest. I have a bit more respect for everyone including YOU, than to put someone else in a position of danger for my own pride. Whether we have a waiver or some type of disclaimer to sign, we are still liable for anything that could happen. Maybe not where you live, but here we have to many lawyers and greedy idiots who can and will take your money. Or maybe I am wrong.


There's no legal requirement here in the UK to have insurance for buggy riding, just as in the US, it's entirely at the riders discretion but nearly everyone here does because we love our sport and we know it wouldn't take much for the knee jerk reactive authorities here to cast a blanket ban.

We do what we can to show that we are responsible, that's all. And yes I agree with what you say.

I was just defending the right of people to act foolishly whether we see them as hero's or not so long as they exercised all precautions and didn't put our sport at risk.

And anyway, all credit should be given to the brave soul hanging off the back axle. The buggy pilot has the easy job.

These records keep things interesting and I'd like to see them stay, otherwise kite buggying will become as interesting as mowing grass.

:)

buggeyed - 27-11-2012 at 11:31 PM

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I forgot to add this

That was breaking news worth watching!!!!

DAKITEZ - 28-11-2012 at 02:49 PM

I'll sit on the back Beaver ... might need to add weights to the front so we dont pop a wheelie.

Disclaimer: If you dont approve or agree with what I am willing to do ... Dont watch! I trust the buggy and pilot and I want a free ride.

bigkid - 28-11-2012 at 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by popeyethewelder
I BTW, am not trying to wind anyone up or cause any controversy, but I do enjoy these types of disscusions

I agree, I enjoy the bantering back and forth. Some of the other stuff gets under my skin when , nevermind.


I would still like to hear from Maria.

I do have a set up for adding weight to the front of the apex, if anyone is interested. I found that adding a little less than 1/2(less if they are leaning forward) the riders weight to the front(if they are over the axle) will make the bug handle great. I dont carry any more than 100lbs, so the big ones will have to watch.:wink2:

BeamerBob - 28-11-2012 at 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by DAKITEZ
I'll sit on the back Beaver ... might need to add weights to the front so we dont pop a wheelie.

Disclaimer: If you dont approve or agree with what I am willing to do ... Dont watch! I trust the buggy and pilot and I want a free ride.


Ok Dino, it's on! I don't imagine we'll be slipping around any.

geokite - 28-11-2012 at 03:32 PM

Sorry, I should have clarified my usage of the term "insurance". I was not referring to personal insurance, rather event insurance. You know, that stuff that events have to have to get permits from the BLM and other government agencies.

Yes, stupid people do stupid things, nothing can stop that, and so forth. But in the interest of looking good to event insurance, this type or record/activity doesn't do us any good.

In case anyone cares about those sort of things.

buggeyed - 28-11-2012 at 08:06 PM

I have to agree with Geokite.I don't really care if people decide to do something unsafe it's there choice.But I'm sure the insurance companies do and will not hesitate to increase our premiums if something happens.I do care about how much I have to pay to get out and enjoy what I love to do.
In short let people do what they want ,but we should not sanction it as an organised group.
Just my opinion.:alien:

geokite - 29-11-2012 at 06:53 AM

Irrelevant post, deleted

rocfighter - 29-11-2012 at 10:27 AM

I rode motorcycles for well over 20 years. I rode all year round in Newengland. I never crashed and I was never injured in all those years. I also never attempted to jump over 18 buses, a tank of sharks, or the Snake river canyon.
On the same scale I have been buggying for 4 years plus. I have never attempted to set or break a record. Want to know how many times I have crashed or been hurt. It's frightening and I let my son do it as well.
There really isn't a choice to be made. I am one of the most cautious people you are gonna meet here. And yet I get hurt doing this. For me it is worth it just to have met all the other lunatics doing this too. So as always I have gone way off course with this one but my point is. If you get rid of the category on PTW's list are people going to stop doing it? NO they will still do it and folks will still get hurt. All we can do as a group of at least semi intelligent people is push for safety gear and safe behavior. Lets all have some fun.
And now back to your scheduled programing already in progress.

arkay - 29-11-2012 at 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by geokite
Irrelevant post, deleted

cheezycheese - 30-11-2012 at 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by rocfighter
I rode motorcycles for well over 20 years.I also never attempted to jump over 18
buses




You Lie !!! :wow:;-)

rocfighter - 30-11-2012 at 06:47 AM

Mark thanks for the great laugh. Man I have tears in my eyes!! :wow:
OK I can't even look at this without cracking up again!!

cheezycheese - 30-11-2012 at 07:18 AM

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Originally posted by rocfighter
Mark thanks for the great laugh. Man I have tears in my eyes!! :wow:
OK I can't even look at this without cracking up again!!



That's what friends are for....
:wee:

rocfighter - 30-11-2012 at 01:00 PM

Hours later and it's still freaS-P-A-M-L-I-N-K-n funny!!I looked because I needed a pick me up after this morning.
Has Ripp not been back here about this yet? Or did he change his name here to now?

ripsessionkites - 4-12-2012 at 09:09 AM

call me what you want, as i just finished getting all the video and pics and gps image together on the mac

it will shut you all up ... i know what i did and have achieved with my GF at Alvord.

new record stands and evidence as required will be sent to PTW first for approval.

BeamerBob - 4-12-2012 at 10:55 AM

It's just a big boast to make this statement, then vanish for 2 weeks with no pics, no vids, and no follow up posts. It made your OP look like a hoax.

ripsessionkites - 4-12-2012 at 12:52 PM

Sorry I have a life outside of the forum.

Between work, bugging, travel and court crap. There isn't much time to sit on the Internet.

Anyone wanna question my credibility? Go look on PTW for my speed, all the events I attend. Driven with most of you in the past.
I didn't get here from sitting on a forum.

Go Vimeo my movies from the past.

erratic winds - 4-12-2012 at 02:04 PM

http://popeyethewelder.com/world-buggying-records/1-buggy-1p...

Information is still your old run. I look forward to seeing the new stats.

geokite - 4-12-2012 at 04:34 PM

Thanks rip, I'm sure event organizers will appreciate it!

maybe it won't make a difference, I could be wrong.

RonH - 4-12-2012 at 07:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ripsessionkites
Sorry I have a life outside of the forum.


Wow... Life beyond the internet??? Really?

How does that happen?

DAKITEZ - 4-12-2012 at 07:24 PM

I didnt know there was a bus that stopped at Alvord :lol:

sorry couldn't keep it in :saint:

soliver - 4-12-2012 at 08:13 PM

Just checked the PTW site erratic posted above,... Still no change, but hopefully your new record will post up soon, Rips....

Of all things, I do understand how life interrupts everything else.

Congrats to you.

RonH - 4-12-2012 at 09:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DAKITEZ
I didnt know there was a bus that stopped at Alvord :lol:

sorry couldn't keep it in :saint:


You're not really sorry are you?

:ninja:

rocfighter - 7-12-2012 at 06:09 AM

Rip I personally am glad to see you posting again. Where ever your life is heading and what you are doing is yours. I look forward to seeing this on the list if all works out. If not I have no reason to disbelieve your achievements in the past. Lets all see what the future brings and enjoy the ride.