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video run from the north back down to base camp

markite - 27-5-2014 at 03:41 PM

Here is the video from my journey further north along the beach - this is after I turned to come back south to base camp. Only my tire tracks, I'd have to see video of tracks past mine to see if anyone (Errol) went further :P

I had some additional text at the end that got chopped off the video, I may have to re-load it, but here it is anyway. It's just under an 8 min cruise back so grab a refreshment to watch.

Demoknight - 27-5-2014 at 05:12 PM

I didn't want to have to do it, but I will post my longer (because I went farther) video as soon as I pull the footage. 4GB clips take forever to even load into an editor...

kiteballoon - 27-5-2014 at 05:22 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Demoknight  
I didn't want to have to do it, but I will post my longer (because I went farther) video as soon as I pull the footage. 4GB clips take forever to even load into an editor...


Bring on the video! The beach looked wide enough, though Mark wisely chose not to have a hour walk back in case something went wrong.

I wonder who was faster? By my guesstimate Mark averaged not quite 21 mph on his return run. (2.6 miles in 7.5 minutes). Kind of fun to guess speed from video actually.

markite - 27-5-2014 at 05:34 PM

Was that a measurement from google on the distance? I checked distance on the gps and it was 2.1 miles beyond where Angus and Errol turned and I thought it was 3 point something miles in total back to buggy camp (but I was doing a bit of math on the fly and could have been off).
I was using a 12m Phantom at the time and I think Errol was running his 12m Charger 2 - it should be close.
Video! Video! Video!

Now I'm wishing I had filmed all my reverse running too - that way you get to see where you've been.....next year

kiteballoon - 27-5-2014 at 05:39 PM

Quote: Originally posted by markite  
Was that a measurement from google on the distance? I checked distance on the gps and it was 2.1 miles beyond where Angus and Errol turned and I thought it was 3 point something miles in total back to buggy camp (but I was doing a bit of math on the fly and could have been off).
I was using a 12m Phantom at the time and I think Errol was running his 12m Charger 2 - it should be close.
Video! Video! Video!

Now I'm wishing I had filmed all my reverse running too - that way you get to see where you've been.....next year


I measured using this; http://www.daftlogic.com/projects-google-maps-distance-calcu... from the Orange roofs where your vid started until the easy to see sign you pass @ 7:30 into the video. I was originally thinking you had done 2.85 miles, which gets you a couple more mph's if so, but re-watching the video confirmed the shorter distance.

markite - 27-5-2014 at 05:47 PM

Sounds very technical to me, I'll go with what you said;)
Thanks Nick

PHREERIDER - 27-5-2014 at 05:55 PM

thanks for the ride!

3shot - 27-5-2014 at 06:09 PM

What a great ride!! You passed our boardwalk LOL. Next year I'll have drinks and snacks at the bottom of the stairs that you and Errol can scoop up when you zip past!lol

ilivni - 27-5-2014 at 07:31 PM

The comments in the video are great!

soliver - 27-5-2014 at 08:01 PM

That was great Mark! Was that Wednesday? I remember you talking about running really far north.

markite - 27-5-2014 at 09:19 PM

yes it was wednesday Spencer - that's the only day I have video from about an hour before the rain and 2 hours after the rain

Nick - i used that calculator and it's coming out to roughly 2.592 so you are correct in the run north of 2.6 miles from the sign post

Jason, I took a ride down a number of times to our boardwalk steps by the townhouse and saw David and his family at the beach. I took the tandem back to give David a ride but he was on a business call about real estate so I circled the area for 15-20 min but he was still on the call so I owe him a tandem ride next year.

I'd also like to do a tandem with two kites next year if someone is willing - the same size kites and just the right wind to work them a few strokes to get rolling then park and ride. It's just the turn that needs attention in a tighter area if you build up speed

ilivni - 27-5-2014 at 09:49 PM


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I'd also like to do a tandem with two kites next year if someone is willing - the same size kites and just the right wind to work them a few strokes to get rolling then park and ride. It's just the turn that needs attention in a tighter area if you build up speed


Who wouldn't :smilegrin: Maybe you and Errol can do a tandem deadman turn?:smilegrin::smilegrin:

Demoknight - 28-5-2014 at 04:16 AM

Oh good god Itay you just made my head explode! That would be so amazing! Has that even been done before? I am definitely down for attempting, but that has got to take near perfect synchronization.

markite - 28-5-2014 at 06:11 AM

I don't know if it's been done. I've bugged with a buddy on a tandem before two kites and seen others at Ivanpah riding dual kites but not a deadman. I was thinking about it and if you down turn both kites at the same time that would then put the back kite in the lead going around but would be the better way to attempt it.
It would be harder following the lead kite to do the down turn because one would turn and a second later the second kite would turn and you would have the power and pressure all off synchronization.
It would need to be perfect otherwise someone is getting yanked out of the buggy.

Demoknight - 28-5-2014 at 06:47 AM

I was thinking about that too, very high chance of OBE. With me in the caboose while we are making the approach I need to be pretty hard on the brakes to slow my kite down and create enough room for us both to do a synchronized downturn to reduce the chances of getting uneven pull from the kites and ejecting me. Once we get through the downturn, I have to fully release brakes, and you need a little brake tension as needed to keep the kites from colliding. You have to crank the wheel because my kite will re-enter the window first and surge pretty hard. I would be the one ejected if we mess up, not you, lol. I am totally down to try it next time!

ssayre - 28-5-2014 at 07:02 AM

Wait a second, I didn't think you were suppose to end up with an actual dead man by the end of the turn. :lol:

ilivni - 28-5-2014 at 07:04 AM

lol

markite - 28-5-2014 at 07:27 AM

here is a video from Holland of a tandem and a tridem but they are using mixed kites.
I'll see if I can find my video with Luke and Eli running fast with twin Libres in tandem at Ivanpah

acampbell - 28-5-2014 at 08:35 AM

Great Vid. At 3:42 or so you can see what I call "Turtle Rocks" on the beach as Mark heads south. That's about when I turn around. Before that, or north of that, you can see how narrow the beach is and you need just the right wind to get out of there without getting screwed.

For those who have not been to JIBE, this was on Wednesday right after a 40 min rainstorm had mostly cleared the beach of tourists and toddlers, leaving it all for us.

Even with tourists and toddlers there is plenty of room for us. All the more reason JIBE 2015 will be an all-week-day event from Monday to Friday, May 4-8.

Thanks Mark

BeamerBob - 28-5-2014 at 08:37 AM

Thanks Mark! I feel like my beach buggy jones is somewhat taken care of after that. I even felt the splashes. I'm sure I've never been that far north on JI.

The 2 kite deadmans turn would have to have both kite downturning at the same time and the rear kite becoming the lead kite. Seems like it would need to be a medium kite-medium wind kind of day. I might work on an Ivanpah version of that. I'd need to get up to speed on the turns, then Brian and I could give it a try. As I run through a mental video of it, there seems to be trouble at the end of the turn. I guess both kites doing an upturn unwinds everything and puts the front kite back in front.

Demoknight - 28-5-2014 at 09:17 AM

Yeah, the very end where the caboose rider's kite re-enters the window first is the most sketchy part. The buggy is moving very slowly at that point, and almost facing the wrong way, so you have to either do some super sharp turn with the buggy or upturn IMMEDIATELY with the kites to stop the backseat flyer from being ripped out. It seems possible, but would definitely be tougher with larger kites. I think mid teens wind and 5-6m kites would work best and give each pilot enough room to fly and perform turns so close. The bigger the kite, the harder it would be to simultaneously make the turns without getting wingtips tangled in each other's bridles.

3shot - 28-5-2014 at 08:30 PM

Dude I am missing JIBE and all the awesome people already :(

markite - 28-5-2014 at 08:49 PM

the hardest part of JIBE, WWBB, NABX, IBB, SOBB and all ...is the ending, and going home. It's going to be long withdrawal pains.

looking at the video again i just realized I'm using my short light line set on that arc so even though I still have room it's around a 55ft line set - I was wondering why it looks wider than it felt as the beach narrowed.

soliver - 29-5-2014 at 07:40 PM

Quote: Originally posted by acampbell  

Even with tourists and toddlers there is plenty of room for us. All the more reason JIBE 2015 will be an all-week-day event from Monday to Friday, May 4-8.

Thanks Mark


Oh sweet... Is this a definite change?!?!?!?

mougl - 4-6-2014 at 04:46 AM

Awesome video!!!! I'll be back next year!

soliver - 4-6-2014 at 09:15 PM

Hope to see you there Scott!

Demoknight - 27-6-2014 at 09:53 AM

I promised one of my JIBE videos would be my super far north ride, so here it is. It is uploading right this moment, but it should be done within the hour. It is a long one, so grab a snack :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCkWxD02Z7k

ssayre - 27-6-2014 at 03:36 PM

Looked like a fun ride

3shot - 27-6-2014 at 04:38 PM

Bro I sure hope you and the fam make it next year!!!!

Demoknight - 27-6-2014 at 04:40 PM

Well, not sure if the girlfriend will join or not, but Itay loved it, and I won't be missing it ever again as long as I can help it.

ssayre - 27-6-2014 at 05:57 PM

We'll be there next year.

Michael Gaylan - 28-6-2014 at 03:06 PM

WOW I can't believe I missed out on JIBE this year. That was an awesome cruse there! And yea I know there is "longer" ones but still

:wee:

Demoknight - 7-10-2014 at 02:51 PM

Ssayre we should caravan down there. If you are bringing the family, Itay and I are going to be driving from Friday evening till Saturday afternoon I think. You will have the best kiting of your life down there man. It is ten times better than even my awesome little pocket of sand and water here. The space is just hard to fathom for a land locked kiter. You will hit speeds you have never hit before, and learn skills you never thought you would. Going to a kiting event at such a perfect venue like this is a definite must to really build the stoke you have for the sport.

soliver - 7-10-2014 at 08:26 PM

You need to get and bring a GPS to actually clock your speeds and see if you actually do hit 40, Demo!

Sean,... You gotta come!

3shot - 8-10-2014 at 03:37 AM

Can't wait to see you guys again!!!

ssayre - 8-10-2014 at 06:06 AM

If money and work allows, I will come. My wife works at a school and usually never takes any time off aside from the normal breaks the whole school takes. I know she won't want to take the whole week off so I'm considering flying in for the first half or last half of the event. If I fly in, could I take my landboard on the plane or should I ship my buggy back and forth? I would prefer the buggy so I could spend time riding and not falling but it might be easier to travel with the board.

Demoknight - 8-10-2014 at 06:30 AM

If I can't drive down for some reason, I will be shipping my buggy and flying. I have taken my landboard on planes before. The trick was that I had it strapped to a kite bag and it was considered carry-on, but you have to gate check it with the strollers and wheelchairs. You basically just set it outside the door of the plane on the ramp and they take it under for you. When you land, they bring it back to the same place.

Hope you bring both, but I am with you on preferring the buggy. Once I get more practice on landboards, I might see it differently. For now, I am all about the speed, long power slides, and deadman turns :)

ssayre - 8-10-2014 at 06:33 AM

If I end up going by myself I might see if I could ride with you guys. If I go by myself it will upset the delicate balance of fun between my wife and I though :)

3shot - 8-10-2014 at 10:24 AM

Times like this is why I wish I had an extra PL folding buggy. To help those that have to fly, or have no space, and can't bring their buggy. I could just fold it up and toss it on the roof, etc.

ssayre - 8-10-2014 at 03:37 PM

Thanks for the thought Jason. I would probably just ship my buggy if I fly. Hopefully being a small and light buggy, shipping wouldn't be too bad. Has anyone shipped a standard pl xr that know approximately what that would cost?

Demoknight - 22-12-2014 at 03:19 PM

For the record, I have flown with my landboard a few times. Just make sure it is strapped to a backpack or something so it seems like one item. It should be considered carry-on but they will ask you to leave it by the gate as you get on the plane with the strollers and gate check luggage. Make sure you get a tag from the ladies at the gate desk to be sure you have a tag for it. If I had to guess, shipping a buggy would be about $50 each way just because of the large box. If you think about it though, that is barely more than checking a bag.