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2013 HQ Apex 5.5 and 8 meter BOTH SOLD

FrontRangeJeff - 31-7-2014 at 01:19 PM

Hello all,

Wife and I are selling quiver overlap: 2013 HQ Apex IV Power Kite for sale: 5.5 meter ($425)

Purchased brand new in 2013. We have Quiver overlap with a 6 Unity.

This 5.5 meter (yellow/Red) purchased brand new 11/5/13. RTF mint condition all around. Used very sparingly - Canopy incredibly crisp - bag great shape, chicken loop was never used (was using a custom one I made) bar and lines in perfect condition. Paid $750 selling for $425.


Can't find manual but they are avail online.
Would like to sell local along Front Range of Colorado if possible to give a chance to have buyer fly them both and avoid shipping

Jeff


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FrontRangeJeff - 31-7-2014 at 04:02 PM

Hi again all - obviously totally willing to sell outside of Front Range! Didn't want to frighten off anyone from outside the area in case my orig post came off that way.
Jeff

erratic winds - 31-7-2014 at 04:47 PM

Have seen the 8m in person it's super clean. would call it near new!

great deal for someone who needs higher wind wings, or some killer buggy engines!

Proletariat - 31-7-2014 at 04:56 PM

Yeah, Jeff takes great care of his kites and is a stand up dude. Buy with confidence.

EDBsKites - 31-7-2014 at 06:52 PM

Jeff Does the 450$ for the 8m include shipping? Or is it separate?

FrontRangeJeff - 1-8-2014 at 05:48 AM

Nick and Dave - thanks for the endorsements - means a lot to me!

EDBs - where are you? You can U2U me and I'm sure we could hash something out if you decide you want the 8 alone.

Jeff

EDBsKites - 4-8-2014 at 11:55 AM

U2U Sent

FrontRangeJeff - 5-8-2014 at 03:11 AM

Both are currently still available. Also just to clarify both are complete minus manuals and are RTF.

Jeff

propylene22 - 5-8-2014 at 12:49 PM

How does the 5 handle Denver's rare and scary high wind (gusty) days?

propylene22 - 5-8-2014 at 12:52 PM

PS. Where do all you Denver folks fly at? I go to the RMKA meetups and stapleton is my usual. I'd like to get out with some more of you especially as the end of S****Y wind season is approaching.

FrontRangeJeff - 5-8-2014 at 06:04 PM

Hey Propylene22!

The 5.5 and frankly the 8 too are well suited for the area. I've had both in our gusty conditions (worst ever probably 15 gusting to low 30's with 45 degree direction changes) and they perform pretty well. The Apex is a pretty stable kite compared to kites with dramatically higher aspect ratios yet still can really get you LOTS of power for landboarding,buggying or snow kiting. Static flying the 5.5 requires respect in anything over I'd say 15 mph initially but quickly after being able to fly it blind I found them both to be really good kites for moving. Helmet - full pads, gloves and the full 9 yards I use all the time....here there is always some level of gusting and direction changes and better to be protected then not...

Locations:
I live in Westminster and I fly primarily at some great multi-use soccer fields in Westminster and Broomfield area associated with the rec centers. If you'd have any interest in flying either of the Apex's no pressure or just want to meet up to look at them or fly together using one of your kites let me know - always welcome up this way. Proletariat (Dave) has ridden up here a few times with me and it is always cool to fly with someone. I've only had one other kiter show up ever (that wasn't Dave ;). I've kited a few times at Dove Valley but it is a long haul for me. Winter opens up a lot of options.

Sorry for the book-I tend to be TMI in my responses.
Jeff

propylene22 - 6-8-2014 at 12:32 PM

Jeff I live in Denver and often commute to Boulder so westminster is not particularly out of the way. I've also flown and done some trading with Dave (I'm Dave also). It would be great to fly with you some time. I've got a couple of Montana's. I'm sure that there are things that I am doing wrong that people would correct if I flew with others. Proletariat thought I was crazy for downlooping on every pass. I can't see how anyone gets moving otherwise.. Anyways lets all get together some time and go fly.

BTW sorry for hijacking your thread.

FrontRangeJeff - 7-8-2014 at 02:04 PM

Hey Propylene/Dave!
No worries about hijack. We should indeed all fly sometime. The biggest field I fly up this way is big enough to handle 3 riders no prob. The Broomfield site I fly is just big enough for 2.

Grounds crews are very nice people and I've always had pleasant experiences with onlookers trying to grasp what the hell exactly I'm doing :)

erratic winds - 7-8-2014 at 02:43 PM

don't listen to Proletariat regardin' loopin' he's not yet come around to the Jeremy Clarkson school of kiting..... POOOWWWAH!

yeti - 7-8-2014 at 04:33 PM

Gotta throw in my endorsement for Jeff.

Don't let the modded loop turn you away. Apexes really have too much bulk and play at the loop and if you're not 6ft tall or you don't have abnormally long arms, it is much more comfortable with the bar, brake and top-hat safety a couple inches closer to your body.

Not sure if anyone else on this forum will endorse this particular trick, but on a high wind day in the front range, I have found you can open the dirt-outs on the apexes to bring down the maximum power a little. (prevents kite from fully inflating, but I don't know if this causes other unexpected safety risks)

Proletariat, I hope you don't have buyer's remorse over my harness yet.

FrontRangeJeff - 8-8-2014 at 05:30 AM

Hey all -
The modded loops my buddy Yeti mentioned above worked really well for me. I made my own custom tubing coated 3/8 Amsteel chicken loops for these Apex's. I made these the smallest possible loops possible that were still completely functional. This effectively shortened the reach from the harness hook to everything (bar, trim, brake strap, top hat safety) by several inches. My wife and I are NOT tall people :) and especially my wife found the stock reach difficult to significantly sheet out or to change trim settings without leaning over. If you are tall the stocks are probably great.

I put the stock chicken loops back on both kites but if a buyer wants to try the shorter ones too I'll just throw them in a zip lock bag into the top pouch of the kite backpack and include them...hadn't thought about it but someone especially just learning might like the shorter reach initially. Swapping the loops is an easy 30 second job.

As for Proletariat...if I buy one more piece of gear that is the same as his he'll probably get a restraining order. :D we should all meet up and ride soon....assuming there will some day be wind.

FrontRangeJeff - 8-8-2014 at 05:31 AM

possible loops possible.....GEES

kind of like how I used to feel as if I worked for the department of redundancy department

Proletariat - 8-8-2014 at 08:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by yeti  
Proletariat, I hope you don't have buyer's remorse over my harness yet.


good tip on the dirtouts. Naw, I ditched my HQ harness for the one I bought from you. It's perfect for me. Can't wait to try it on water.

soliver - 8-8-2014 at 10:13 PM

Quote: Originally posted by FrontRangeJeff  
possible loops possible.....GEES

kind of like how I used to feel as if I worked for the department of redundancy department


Hehehe... I love on that "edit" button for just such an occasion... Frequently

FrontRangeJeff - 9-8-2014 at 12:12 PM

Hey Soliver.
Yeah me too - I figured I'd let it ride since it sounded even more stupid then my usual stuff :)

BTW everyone - both kites are currently still available.

Jeff

soliver - 9-8-2014 at 02:17 PM

I'd love that 8m but I've blown my kite spending budget for a while :no:

3shot - 9-8-2014 at 03:27 PM

Yup Spencer. An 8 and 12, you'd be set!!!!

soliver - 9-8-2014 at 04:15 PM

Indeeeeeeed

Proletariat - 11-8-2014 at 10:17 AM

Quote: Originally posted by soliver  
I'd love that 8m but I've blown my kite spending budget for a while :no:


Just tell yer ol' lady that if she didn't explicitly witness said spending of money, it is not "true" and therefore you should be able to spend the money that you never spent. :)

Too soon?

soliver - 11-8-2014 at 10:22 AM

My couch is comfy to sleep on... but my bed is memory foam... i just can't suffer missing that for too long...

In other words, I guarantee that would not go well for me :o

Thanks for the good idea though:thumbup:

FrontRangeJeff - 11-8-2014 at 05:20 PM

Trying to slip another kite into the quiver is something I've tried a few angles on....but Joanna (wife) is WAY too smart and after 17 years she immediately knows when I'm scheming/laying picks trying to rationalize a purchase.

After sort of greasing some skids of rationalizing adding a 7 meter LEI for a trip coming up I told her last week that I was going to buy an Ocean Rodeo Razor...but that after that I probably wasn't going to buy another kite until the end of the year.

She laughed at me telling me that I was making a huge sacrifice - to go 4 months before buying another kite.

I agreed - because if I didn't have such tremendous discipline I could totally see getting a Speed 4. I'd suspect all of our significant others would have all sorts of stories to tell of all of us and our addiction! There is probably a Forum they are all on all the time too....

3shot - 11-8-2014 at 05:32 PM

Now that is funny Jeff!!!!!!
After my wife sees the same kite pulled up on the computer two or three times, I automaticlly get "the look".

FrontRangeJeff - 11-8-2014 at 05:47 PM

The 5.5 was Joanna's first depower but it quickly got repurposed for a high wind kite for me. Now Joanna just uses a single other kite and has shot down future purchases under any claim I make that I think SHE really needs it :D

Same way here 3shot - Joanna's first clue is typically a heavy couple of days looking at what she has started calling "Kite-Porn"

FrontRangeJeff - 13-8-2014 at 11:02 AM

Hey all - Found one of the manuals - same manual for both kites

Doing some bike maintenance today and found it in my tool box. It is included with the first kite to go.

Jeff


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dannyjive - 27-8-2014 at 03:25 PM

do you still have these? I'm interested in the 8m, the manual would be great since I can't find it online...

dannyjive - 27-8-2014 at 03:38 PM

I'm also interested in the custom chicken loop, I'm not a tall guy...

yeti - 27-8-2014 at 07:22 PM

yer manuals
http://www.powerkites.de/Kiteworld/Downloads.html

dannyjive - 27-8-2014 at 07:27 PM

Thanks!

FrontRangeJeff - 28-8-2014 at 03:33 AM

I do still have them. U2U response coming shortly

chicken loops

Chrisz - 28-8-2014 at 07:34 PM

How did you make those chicken loops? I have short arms and have a hard time reaching the bar and the brake. Got any pictures?

FrontRangeJeff - 31-8-2014 at 02:40 PM

Hey Chrisz,

Been out of town...

I'll be happy to compile some directions with pics - I'll get them up in the next day or two - they worked wicked well for me.

Jeff

FrontRangeJeff - 2-9-2014 at 07:57 AM

Hello all:

Update - as mentioned in the title! The 8 Meter has been Sold (Happy flying DannyJive!!). The 5.5 is still available.

Later today I will be adding a post to the Kites, Lines and Accessories forum with detailed instructions and photos regarding my custom ultra-small chicken loops I made for the HQ Apex kites.

Jeff

erratic winds - 2-9-2014 at 10:55 AM

Might want to fully edit the title to something like "2013 Apex 5.5m for sale" and remove any mention of the 8m in the title...

dannyjive - 2-9-2014 at 01:31 PM

Thank you Jeff, can't wait to fly this thing!

FrontRangeJeff - 24-11-2014 at 09:13 AM

Hey all....so going back through my quiver and realized I still have this 5.5!! Would make a perfect holiday purchase:D

kite/bar/lines/bag all in seriously crisp condition