Power Kite Forum - Need help with my HQ Rush IV 350 pro

Need help with my HQ Rush IV 350 pro

marine_hm - 23-9-2014 at 06:31 AM

I just got my kite off e-bay. It was missing the lines, safety leash. So basically I got the kite and the bar. The kite has two "ribs" that are ripped down the center from top to bottom. I have purchased kitefix repair kit, 500 lb line for the control bar to kite and 220 for the brake line. I have an idea on how it all goes together. I was wondering if someone could post pics to show how the lines are connected to the bar and the safety leash to the brake line. I guess I'll be making my own stops for the brake line. Do they sell just those? Happy Kiting and I hope to hear back soon with positive feedback. Just for the record, my main goal was to get my GoPro camera up in the air for some aerial shots. I started with an HQ 1.3, That was not nearly big enough so I went big. The sale was not a total bust. I got a partial refund and while waiting for the repair parts to come in, I watched a lot of youtube videos. Laughing... Youtube does not make one an expert! Actual experience does. See you on the beach!

abkayak - 23-9-2014 at 06:53 AM

welcome..seems this hasnt gone real well so far..where are you located?

jrhook - 23-9-2014 at 07:29 AM

I'll try to help...factory specs are the safest way to go but you can save this kite if you're determined! Sounds like you need to get the paddles greased up and yell "clear" and see if the heart starts pumping again!

marine_hm - 23-9-2014 at 07:45 AM

Located in Jacksonville, NC. I haven't seen any kiters at the beach aside from the various "beach markers" as I call them. Single line kites to mark where your stuff is while you're in the water.

This is my first power kite and have nothing to reference. I have searched the internet and have not found what I'm looking for.

Thanks for the quick replies. So far this has been a great site. I have frequented others for different subjects and not gotten as quick of response as here.

marine_hm - 23-9-2014 at 07:52 AM

So far I have only spent $160 or so for the kite, line(s), ripstop repair kit. I don't think I need the paddles just yet. My wife needed them when the kite got here and I stretched it across the living room floor and told her how much I originally paid for the kite, then told here there was no line and then told her it was broken. Hehehehe

marine_hm - 23-9-2014 at 08:03 AM

A few days ago, I asked HQ what they thought of "kitefix". They replied it was great stuff. Just now, I got a reply from them stating it can't be fixed with that, it would require a sewing machine. I scrolled back. They retracted the comment as to what they thought of the product. I agree a sewing machine would be best but come on.

abkayak - 23-9-2014 at 09:02 AM

this is a horrible story so far....imo whoever sold you that kite failed on all accounts and kinda needs to be outed
blow cells need real repairs not tape....and this kite is not worth $$ sending out...hate to say it...but if you cant pull off the sewing yourself you should move on...you a Marine or you just like the water?

marine_hm - 23-9-2014 at 09:15 AM

Retired Navy Corpsman and yes, I do like the water. I'm going to do the sewing myself But after I've played around with the kitefix. Does anyone know if regular material shops carry this material? If so, they will probably best advise me as to the right thread and needle for the sewing machine.

marine_hm - 23-9-2014 at 09:25 AM

So where is the most force applied to the kite.... Inside the cells or on the underside of the kite that the bridles are attached? Hmmmmm.

abkayak - 23-9-2014 at 09:40 AM

its when the kite hits the ground leading edge first and no way for the air to escape the cells will blow up....we all try to avoid it but its part of the learning process...i have a blown up rush and its 2line bar w/ lines i can send you..this is all youll need to get life back in that kite if your up for it...just email me an address and no buying kites on ebay anymore w/out running it by us first.....sir.

marine_hm - 23-9-2014 at 10:07 AM

Quote: Originally posted by abkayak

its when the kite hits the ground leading edge first and no way for the air to escape the cells will blow up....we all try to avoid it but its part of the learning process...i have a blown up rush and its 2line bar w/ lines i can send you..this is all youll need to get life back in that kite if your up for it...just email me an address and no buying kites on ebay anymore w/out running it by us first.....sir.

LOL Aye Aye.

I was able to figure out how to send you an email. for some reason clicking on email from here, I would get an error... Go figure.

Oh, yeah... No more eBay! Got it.

indigo_wolf - 23-9-2014 at 11:54 AM

Quote: Originally posted by marine_hm

I was wondering if someone could post pics to show how the lines are connected to the bar and the safety leash to the brake line. I guess I'll be making my own stops for the brake line. Do they sell just those?

This is the line setup for the HQ Rush Pro.

Line stoppers are available from West Maine or similar local sailing supply store.

Usually sold in multi-packs and they come in different sizes depending on the thickness of the line they will be going on.

ATB,
Sam

marine_hm - 23-9-2014 at 08:34 PM

I am totally amazed. In one day... I got everything I asked for and more. Thanks abkayak and indigo_wolf!!!! Remembering one of my favorite movies "pay it forward". I have spent what seems like an eternity taking care of others for no reason. I just got paid. Very Humbled.
Now to pass it on some more.

BigMikesKites - 24-9-2014 at 03:55 AM

FixMyKite.com does a pretty good job at repairs at a great price. I'm a Navy vet as well. Should you decide to go a different route, let me know and I'll help you get going where you want to be.

EBay

skimtwashington - 24-9-2014 at 06:43 AM

eBay is okay...IF you know the right questions to ask...and what to look for. The guarantee covers you from most losses. As a new person It is better to buy perhaps from a dealer or a great site and members here.

The whole thing would have been better if you just had gotten approval to return by either a repentant and cooperative seller, or through eBay and PayPal for an UNREPENTENT and uncooperative seller.

Glad you got a partial refund....But look at the work and effort you now have to go though.

Now you know where to come for help, purchases, socializing and entertainment! The Ripstop Pilots of PKF!

And don't buy a kite from Chumlee:

marine_hm - 25-9-2014 at 12:10 AM

Well, my kitefix kit came in. That little tube of glue doesn't go very far. It made it the length of one rib on one side. I thought I'd be able to do both sides of the two ribs that are torn. That #@%$#! doesn't want to cooperate. As you're smoothing it out the material spreads apart. What a mess. It does seem to hold up nice once it's cured. Set time 20 minutes, full cure is 6 hours. Still not bad for a quick repair.

The other rib is Gorilla Glue duct-taped for for now. Probably wont hold for long. It's got to get my GoPro in the air at least once.

Big Mike; What material are these things made of? Can I get it at a regular material shop? Do you sell the material (white). It looks fairly easy to sew. Pull out the stitching and use the old piece as a template and sew it all back together. What type/size thread, # size needle. It has a dashed stitch. If that's what's there, no reason to change the stitch pattern. Huh?

Hope to hear from y'all soon It's 3 am and I need to get to bed. Life comes at you real fast even after retirement. Just no more meetings, unreps, inspections, etc... Dang that 3MC!

abkayak - 25-9-2014 at 05:47 AM

glue and tape cant keep ribs together...but i guess film to follow? maybe have someone out there w/ a catchers mitt

marine_hm - 25-9-2014 at 07:09 AM

Yes, film to follow. My Gopro battery was dead and I'm to impatient for anything so the repairs went undocumented. I bet y'all would have liked to see me with the roll of duct-tape. Agree, I doubt it will hold even for gorilla glue brand. Putting kite material and thread on my shopping list.

I'm going to take it to the local soccer fields for my maiden flight. There's usually a few spots not being used. The beach is still too crowded for my comfort/flying skills. Don't want to put anyone in the ER. And if that holds...some aerial shots!

skimtwashington - 25-9-2014 at 07:24 AM

Quote:

maybe have someone out there w/ a catchers mitt

best humor always comes from pain..yours or someone elses.

marine_hm - 29-9-2014 at 10:07 AM

Measurements of 8, 13 from above picture of lines?

marine_hm - 29-9-2014 at 10:18 AM

Still waiting for package... Will post reply when it gets here. Again, ABKAYAK; Thanks.

abkayak - 29-9-2014 at 11:43 AM

hommie cant afford fedex...sit tight it will show...use as you see fit

marine_hm - 1-10-2014 at 07:23 PM

Quote: Originally posted by abkayak

hommie cant afford fedex...sit tight it will show...use as you see fit

Kite made it. It's late, I'll open it up after work tomorrow and have a look see. Thanks

marine_hm - 3-10-2014 at 09:11 AM

I used your lines as a template for mine. Measured them and tied off loops precisely. I have extra line, will probably make extensions out of that if I decide I want extra height.. Now I just need some wind!!!

chris - 3-10-2014 at 02:08 PM

Quote: Originally posted by marine_hm

A few days ago, I asked HQ what they thought of "kitefix". They replied it was great stuff. Just now, I got a reply from them stating it can't be fixed with that, it would require a sewing machine. I scrolled back. They retracted the comment as to what they thought of the product. I agree a sewing machine would be best but come on.

For what it is worth, your accusation of a retraction is false. You may have misread my comment. I specifically said kitefix will not fix a broken rib. Only a sewing machine will do that.

Chris

marine_hm - 3-10-2014 at 09:46 PM

Quote: Originally posted by chris

Quote: Originally posted by marine_hm

For what it is worth, your accusation of a retraction is false. You may have misread my comment. I specifically said kitefix will not fix a broken rib. Only a sewing machine will do that.

Chris

Yep; totally misread it, My apologies! Even retraction is false, I somehow skipped it when I went back to look at it. Again, more apologies.

At the moment I'm getting comfortable with the wife's sewing machine. Once comfortable, Ill switch to the ripstop type and play til I get comfortable with that. Nah, I doubt it. Kite repair shop out of Gainesville FL is more likely to get the kite for repairs.

marine_hm - 4-10-2014 at 01:58 PM

Here's my short video of the kite flying for the first time. I needed more wind. 5-7 mph gusts could barely get it in the air. Video is terrible. Kind of hard to hold the iPhone and the control bar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tAG45MwN38

marine_hm - 14-10-2014 at 03:57 PM

I need to work out some issues with stabilizing the camera, but here you go. My first attempt at at Kite Aerial Photography.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICVn4B5ILsI&feature=yout...

skimtwashington - 14-10-2014 at 06:05 PM

:barf: :barf:

I got nauseous from all the shaking and upchucked before the film ended.....

snowspider - 15-10-2014 at 03:47 PM

Gorilla tape may do just fine , it holds key components of my van together (198525 miles , countdown begins soon). Recently kept an upper radiator hose from leaking for almost a week! Carry it with me at all times , right up there with head gear and harnesses.

sadsack - 16-10-2014 at 01:03 PM

Looks like my flying

marine_hm - 18-10-2014 at 04:41 PM

I took the kite to the beach today. It was wonderful - 1 thing. SD card for GoPro was still in the laptop. I had hours of fun tugging on the bar. Really learning that wind window, parking the kite on the edge. Thanks to ABKyayak, I was able to enjoy myself. 1st 5 minutes with the 500lb line I spliced myself snapped somewhere in the middle. Wasnt even under strain. I whipped out the other bar and quickly switched over and enjoyed the rest of the day. So far the kitefix and gorilla glue tape is holding up.

Does anyone normally carry spare line when they go out? I don't think making my own line was wise but I had to see for myself. Any good recommendations. LOL, NOT eBay! I'm not buying anything unless I run it through here 1st.

Big Mike? I didn't see any on your website.

How about this stuff? http://www.windpowersports.com/accessories/line/powerline.ph...

marine_hm - 18-10-2014 at 05:09 PM

Bladerunner - 19-10-2014 at 08:51 AM

Q line is great stuff. You don't need to sleeve it . It can be used for pigtails and extensions, any length of fly line that you choose.

Yes, having a spare set of lines is a good thing to have along.

marine_hm - 20-10-2014 at 08:09 AM

What is a good length for flying my kite, why? 60' -vs- 80 or 100?

Bladerunner - 20-10-2014 at 04:30 PM

Longer lines give you a bigger wind window so longer time in the power zone. They also sometimes allow you to get to better wind up higher. So, longer lines are effective for low wind.

Short lines work well in strong winds because they create a smaller wind window and get you out of the power zone faster.

Average length lines are about 20 - 23 meters. 10 -15 is a typical short set and 30 ( 23m lines with standard 7m extensions.)= long.

Changing line length doesn't equal changing kite size but it does allow you to fly in a wider range of wind speeds.

marine_hm - 22-10-2014 at 06:34 AM

Thinking on this... If I were to add an extension, I would do so from the bar side? If the lines crossed during a loop, the connections wouldn't be sliding against another? There's always a right and wrong way of doing things. Like buying a kite on ebay.

abkayak - 22-10-2014 at 07:42 AM

save that line to make extensions for your next kite...a 4line, and i think the twisting will be further up the line then where you are thinking...unless your going real long

Bladerunner - 22-10-2014 at 04:14 PM

I very much agree. Put the money you would spend on extensions toward your 4 line kite fund. It will be far better spent that way. Flying 2 line is just an introduction. Adding brakes changes the game completely.

If you feed the loops of your lines through each other instead of using the loop to create a larks head you won't have a knot.