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Just in case anyone asks...

geokite - 18-1-2007 at 07:03 PM

http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/~martins/hydro/lectures/proph2o...

Or

http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/explan2.html#comp


Sincerely,
Hyphen

Tigger - 19-1-2007 at 01:12 AM

:?:Huh:?:

coreykite - 19-1-2007 at 12:16 PM

Hyphen,
Thanks for the fact sheet on the compressibilty of water.

In fact I was just asking myself that very question...

>"... compressibility of water is small. An increase of pressure by 1 atmosphere (= 1013mbar = 14.7 psi) causes a decrease of the water volume by 5.3*10-5 of the original volume."<

I still maintain that the cited figure is so small that it renders the argument on the compressibility of water moot.

I know you disagree.

Let the discussion continue.


Safen Up! Buggy On!

"Often wrong... Never in doubt"

the coreylama

jonesing4wind - 19-1-2007 at 09:36 PM

Corey,
I disagree. While the ratio of compressibilty of water (in fact most liquids) compared to an equal volume of a gas is drastically smaller it is not without measure. Now, I dont have my meter calibrated, so cannot comment on the validity of the above measurement. However, when measuring the ratio of compressibility of water compared to an equal MASS and volume of a gas, I think you might find that there is a nearly direct correlation. Comments?

Seany

coreykite - 20-1-2007 at 12:41 PM

Sorry Buddy,
Not a comparrison of gas to liquid.

The small, almost miniscule ability of water to compress is what makes hydro-dynamics a good energy generator.

5.3 x 10 to the Minus 5 If I read the quote correctly.

Now I am not making the argument that water is completely non-compressible, simply that the amount of compressibilty is so small as to make it of interest only to specific scientific calibrations.
To you and me, water doesn't compress in any meaningful manner.

God I love this.

Thanks again to Hyphen for reinvigoration this almost dormant topic.

Safen Up! Buggy On!

"Often wrong... Never in doubt"

the coreylama

jonesing4wind - 20-1-2007 at 06:27 PM

WOOAA!! You guys were serious? I was completely tongue-in-cheek! But if you guys are serious about the topic, I will have to bow out. I have not studied fluid dynamics in this lifetime, nor do I plan on it... Even tho I do have a passing interest in it...

Seany

jonesing4wind - 21-1-2007 at 08:52 AM

Not really an addition to, but more of a branch off of the original post....

I have been puzzling on this all night and did some searches. There was a reference to nanobubbles in one of the above links, so searching on that I found some practicle applications of nanobubbles (very small pockets of Oxygen or Ozone suspended in normal water). One being it appearantly aids the decomposition of organic matter by quite a large factor.

Now you have me curious as to the original topic that brought this line of converstion up. Care to cliff note me?

Seany

deanaoxo - 21-1-2007 at 10:32 AM

it's nothing new, they've been going at this for a while. Also, in case you didn't know by now, the iq range around the mayors van is fairly high in spite of the liberal use of shot cars and other more enlightened safety equipment.

Throw Peters big brain in the mix, and this can go on till dawn, often ending up with a solution to all the problems of the universe.

There is no subject off limits, large or small. In another culture in another time, these folks sat at the feet of the Buddha and this, of course is where all the aoxomoxoa rays really begin to shine.

So polish your shine, bring your grin, when the wind slows down, buggy town hall meetings heat up!

aoxosezs~!

CyberMuZ - 21-1-2007 at 04:12 PM

But you guys are missing the added factors of temperature on the compressibility of the water.

There's a wrench in the gears for ya! :lol:

Tigger - 22-1-2007 at 08:35 AM

Have you considered altitude in the equation?

geokite - 22-1-2007 at 10:53 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CyberMuZ
But you guys are missing the added factors of temperature on the compressibility of the water.

There's a wrench in the gears for ya! :lol:


Um, it was in the section right below, on the second link, titled "Compressibility drops as temperature increases"

Now the question is how much more efficient would hydroelectric plants be if diethyl ether was added to the water (diethyl ether fills in the clathrate cavities, making water even more dense)?

Steve

awindofchange - 22-1-2007 at 01:36 PM

All things considered equal....fat people still use more soap!:spin:

CHANNIN75 - 22-1-2007 at 04:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by awindofchange
All things considered equal....fat people still use more soap!:spin:



Wow with all the high IQ's around Buggytown......:o
and then you throw in a few Bad Influences......
(you all know who you are myself included tee hee)
:smilegrin:
We could TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!:wink2:

Laugh it was funny and you all Know it

Flyin High
Shannon :singing::singing:

sockhat - 25-1-2007 at 10:22 AM

I get a huge kick out of how wacky you guys are!!!

Can't wait to meet y'all this year

~Rob

coreykite - 29-1-2007 at 01:54 PM

WACKY???????????????

You Think We're Wacky?

Buddy, take a peak outside your front door...
The Whole F**king World Is Wacky.

Kite flyers might be amonst the few sane folks left.
At least we know where our reality is...

... In The Wind.

We're not wacky... But we DO think we're funny.


Safen Up! Buggy On!

"Often wrong... Never in doubt"

the coreylama

CyberMuZ - 29-1-2007 at 06:33 PM

You gotta be kidding me!!!

FUNNY?

Every time I am around you my friend, you make my grey matter hurt!

DAMN YOU!

He he he. I Love you ALL the same!

Cheers MATES!

CHANNIN75 - 6-2-2007 at 10:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by coreykite
WACKY???????????????

You Think We're Wacky?

Buddy, take a peak outside your front door...
The Whole F**king World Is Wacky.

Kite flyers might be amonst the few sane folks left.
At least we know where our reality is...

... In The Wind.

We're not wacky... But we DO think we're funny.


Safen Up! Buggy On!

"Often wrong... Never in doubt"

the coreylama


What do you mean we Think that we are Funny...but I have to admit you also make my grey matter hurt......but you always make me smile Corey......;)

Flyin High
Shannon
Counting down the days till I get to be with all of you again :singing: