Power Kite Forum - New website for used kite equipment

New website for used kite equipment

getakite - 9-2-2017 at 12:54 AM

Hello there,

I started a new website with kite classified advertisement. The website is called Get a Kite.

You can find it here:

www.getakite.us

If you have any suggestions, critics or ideas for improvements feel free to contact me.

Kind regards
Jan

bigkid - 9-2-2017 at 05:51 AM

Whether your legitimate or a scam, doesn't matter at this point. You come here looking for a gimme gimme gimme gimme.
It would be nice to show up on the forum and say,"hi I'm new" but no you didn't do that.

Windstruck - 9-2-2017 at 08:20 AM

Site looks legit, but I fully agree with Jeff. IMHO, PKF is first a site to share amongst fellow kite enthusiasts the joys, pitfalls, and questions that arise from the pursuit of traction kiting. A distant second is the commerce aspect. A little easing in goes a long way. No, we don't need to joke about that last comment.

bigkid - 9-2-2017 at 09:20 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Windstruck

A little easing in goes a long way. No, we don't need to joke about that last comment.

Can we comment on your avatar, pokey? :lol:

skimtwashington - 9-2-2017 at 09:20 AM

......................www.GotTooManyKites.com..............

Windstruck - 9-2-2017 at 11:06 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bigkid

Can we comment on your avatar, pokey? :lol:

Absolutely! I actually think it is a highly appropriate Avatar post my accident. :D

Cheddarhead - 9-2-2017 at 11:10 AM

Quote: Originally posted by skimtwashington

......................www.GotTooManyKites.com..............

I think your on to something here. Perhaps a support group aimed at helping kite junkies. "Hi, my name is Cheddarhead and I have a problem".

Ed Cline - 9-2-2017 at 04:11 PM

A full quiver of venoms with 2 bars.....450.00
If I wasn't set on single skins right now or had extra cash I might investigate.
If there is a hook it's tempting bait. Especially including a little used 10m.
Somebody Stop Me!

Bladerunner - 9-2-2017 at 04:15 PM

Interesting concept? Please tell us more.

It looks like you are creating something like Trivago for kite gear? Using some kind of engine to search multiple sites for specific gear? Who do you search???? I see a lot of dealer stuff / Ebay + Ikitesurf stuff? If that is how it works do you get permission from these websites to link to their for sale sections? Are you linking to OURS?????????

As folks have mentioned, while we have a very good for sale section this forum is about sharing information 1st. You will get a LOT more respect if you introduce yourself and answer a few questions.

abkayak - 9-2-2017 at 04:16 PM

I'm not looking... for once

Windstruck - 9-2-2017 at 04:20 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Ed Cline

A full quiver of venoms with 2 bars.....450.00
If I wasn't set on single skins right now or had extra cash I might investigate.
If there is a hook it's tempting bait. Especially including a little used 10m.
Somebody Stop Me!

Ed - stop! Don't fall into the trap of going broke saving money! You have built a fine quiver. Time to put on the brakes and really get to know the kites you do own. Plenty of time to modify the quiver in the years to come AFTER you've worn out the kites you already own.

Windstruck - 9-2-2017 at 04:30 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bladerunner

Interesting concept? Please tell us more.

It looks like you are creating something like Trivago for kite gear? Using some kind of engine to search multiple sites for specific gear? Who do you search???? I see a lot of dealer stuff / Ebay + Ikitesurf stuff? If that is how it works do you get permission from these websites to link to their for sale sections? Are you linking to OURS?????????

As folks have mentioned, while we have a very good for sale section this forum is about sharing information 1st. You will get a LOT more respect if you introduce yourself and answer a few questions.

I have comfortably bought and sold a lot of pairs of skis on eBay but would personally be distinctly uncomfortable selling a kite to somebody I haven't gotten comfortable with on PKF.

bobalooie57 - 9-2-2017 at 07:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by skimtwashington

......................www.GotTooManyKites.com..............

Ski, your link don't work!:evil:

getakite - 9-2-2017 at 11:56 PM

Hi there,

thanks for your feedback so far and sorry for not introducing me. I am Jan a 33 year old Kitesurfer from Hamburg Germany.

I started the German version of this website two years ago and now thought it would be awesome to have a international version.

Your question is whether it is allowed to link to the websites like eBay for exanple from my website. And I am glad to tell you that linking is allowed. Websites like Facebook and twitter for example highly depend on linking other websites and they do not ask for permission on the linked website.

Sorry for the noise and not introducing myself.

Kind regards
Jan

Windstruck - 10-2-2017 at 04:38 AM

Quote: Originally posted by getakite

Hi there,

thanks for your feedback so far and sorry for not introducing me. I am Jan a 33 year old Kitesurfer from Hamburg Germany.

I started the German version of this website two years ago and now thought it would be awesome to have a international version.

Your question is whether it is allowed to link to the websites like eBay for exanple from my website. And I am glad to tell you that linking is allowed. Websites like Facebook and twitter for example highly depend on linking other websites and they do not ask for permission on the linked website.

Sorry for the noise and not introducing myself.

Kind regards
Jan

Jan, thank you for the introduction, congratulations on your success to date in Europe, and best of luck with your international expansion.

Can you please directly respond to the question posed as to whether you plan (or perhaps already do) link specifically to PKF's For Sale and Wanted sections? Thanks in advance for your reply.

getakite - 10-2-2017 at 05:52 AM

Quote:

Can you please directly respond to the question posed as to whether you plan (or perhaps already do) link specifically to PKF's For Sale and Wanted sections? Thanks in advance for your reply.

At the moment I do not link to any posts of the sale and wanted section.

Windstruck - 10-2-2017 at 06:41 AM

I erased my original comments because I've had a change in my thinking on this matter. With great freedom comes great (personal) responsibility. I need only buy and sell from who I want to.

flyguy0101 - 10-2-2017 at 07:05 AM

@windstruck- I think it is a great idea to open the audience for stuff that we may be selling on PKF- it is the sellers decision about who they decide to sell to- but if you are selling something - I for one would love to have a larger audience and find more prospective buyers- although I think I have sold all the kite stuff I plan on at the moment. And I agree that PKF is a nice tight community that I have enjoyed being part of for many years it has been getting noticeably smaller over the last few years. realize it is just a link- I think if you put a specific search in google - it will show for sale links in PKF as well so why not have it consolidated.
@getakite- thanks for putting something like this together I think it helps everyone that likes to swap gear over time

Ed Cline - 10-2-2017 at 07:15 AM

Seems like a lot of unwelcome inquiries might result. Maybe even some objection to sending money to strangers without legal recourse. IPman style. On the other paw it's another place to look, and that's the gift Ms Pam was probably trying to give us, yes?
Also.
Thanks Auntie Steve, I'm not buying twin skins yet. I'm not done with single skins. Waiting with a worm on my tongue (baited breath) to hear how you like the Longstreet new.

Ed Cline - 10-2-2017 at 07:16 AM

Longstar two. I have to auto correct, on account of I don't spell to pretty good on my own.

getakite - 10-2-2017 at 07:18 AM

@windstruck
I get your point. But then a car seller might also worry when he sells his car to someone who freshly got his driver license?

The forum is public and can also be searched by for example google or any other search engine.

Ed Cline - 10-2-2017 at 07:32 AM

I use google to find things in the forum myself, it's my way to find the bits without going through a whole thread. In fact it's how I found y'all in the first place.
If we want blocking on our search engines we have to move to Red China. For now anyway.

Windstruck - 10-2-2017 at 08:06 AM

Quote: Originally posted by getakite

@windstruck
I get your point. But then a car seller might also worry when he sells his car to someone who freshly got his driver license?

The forum is public and can also be searched by for example google or any other search engine.

I'm not dying on this hill and I see the open access point of view. I withdraw my position.

Auntie Steve - ouch! Deserved, but ouch! :evil: :moon:

Ed Cline - 10-2-2017 at 08:23 AM

Looking through the rules, I don't see anything against kidding with fellow kiters. You're just afraid the Auntie tag might catch on. Guess I shouldn't exceed my newbie license too quickly though. My apologies....Auntie.
Autozenith me if I pull too hard sir.

Randy - 10-2-2017 at 09:18 AM

This definitely goes into the category of "modern problems.":D

bigkid - 10-2-2017 at 09:18 AM

Business is business, a sport is a sport. You can't have it both ways, or can you?
Get a kite is in it for the money, not the sport. That was obvious from his first post. If it was a sport to him he would've said hi I'm new to this and want to say howdy or whatever. But instead he says I want to make money.
Sell to who ever you want, or don't want. I don't regret any deal I did or didn't do. If I want to buy and sell without any responsibility I will use eBay. If I care about any part of the sport I would deal one on one. Hard to teach someone how to fly when I'm running to the bank.
Business or sport? You can only love one or the other. You can't serve 2 masters.

Interesting post, good read, did anyone read the fine print about security and personal info? A better question might be "who cares?"

indigo_wolf - 10-2-2017 at 10:23 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Ed Cline

If we want blocking on our search engines we have to move to Red China. For now anyway.

Not entirely true, I am a part of at least two other forums that have basic requirements for access to the Buy/Sell/Trade sections. One requires that you be a registered member. The other required that you be a registered member and have 15 non-trivial posts.

To the best of my knowledge, because the B/S/T is part of the respective websites that requires logging in, they are not "spidered/indexed" by Google.

ATB,
Sam

Ed Cline - 10-2-2017 at 03:53 PM

Maybe not. Wonder how come we have a page rank of 3/10.?
Also we are a first page search for post info in for sale, and all the informational pages including personal profile "mood statements". There are spiders searching every day and bots at work.
Because of the update frequency we are likely crawled more than once a day?
3/10 is my sites rank with all the SEO I can muster personally.

Please to explain to a simple country boy from North Carolina?

I was referring to blocking of google itself, and YouTube especially, in Communist China and the consequential popularity of VPN's to subvert this censoring. It's hard to lock people out of a free internet and the linking to various sites. No?

Ed Cline - 10-2-2017 at 04:06 PM

I just used my quiver listing as a search, which I only added day before yesterday. PKF is top of the page. Which post it first appeared in and how many replies was right there.

Bladerunner - 10-2-2017 at 05:06 PM

Thanks for the follow up Jan.

I get what you are doing and see how it can be useful. As far as what site you link to I think any forum that doesn't have built in blocking should be legal to use?

I think BigKid missed the part in your reply that explained how you are a kiteboarder who saw a way to make life easier when searching for your own gear. I am not clear how you would be making money off of this venture but if you are pulling in a nickel then balls on you! Something tells me this little project isn't taking away from your kite time and I'm SURE it's not allowing you to retire and kite full time. Fly them on Sunday, Sell them on Monday!!!

I can see why some members would prefer you didn't link to us. This forum is kind of unique in that we take the buying and selling of kites a bit more serious than others. As I see it your site would expose our gear sales to more " outsiders ". Most of the sellers on here are more interested in getting their gear in the right hands than making money. This makes for some amazing deals but ....... many of our sellers may offend your customers. Sort of the seller questioning the buyer rather than the other way around. Most of us will turn a buyer down (this puts them off ) if we don't think our kite is what they need. Throw in our oddball way of trusting each other with all sorts of payment methods and we have seen our share of unhappy " outsiders " .

That said, You have stumbled on possibly the best source for land based gear in North America. If you intend to link to us I suggest you contact the administrator. Bob aka Doomwheels is very open to dealerships and such sharing information on here. WE, the members LOVE them for their up to date information and reviews!!!! It is just not intended to be a commercial space for them.

:bigok:

UnknownAX - 12-2-2017 at 01:14 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bigkid

Business is business, a sport is a sport. You can't have it both ways, or can you?

Yes, you can. And it's often how the best innovations and companies/startups happen and get born. Also, if this wasn't the case, both would eventually die out.