FLYSURFER 9.5 Titan. I am going to wear this thing out. If that is possible.
thank you very much John (powerzone, I still want a V13 BTW.)
my first PKF hook up and purchase. total satisfaction, wife is dollin' the t-shirt right now
And a pair of Coyotes.
recycled funstuff is supreme, can't waitpowerzone - 4-9-2008 at 09:35 AM
cool... maybe she will model the Tshirt for a PKF photoBladerunner - 4-9-2008 at 10:05 AM
Alright !
Welcome to the "Dogs " :evil:
I can't go on enough about how much fun I have + see possible with Coyotes. I have just begun progressing and as folks at SOBB will tell you there is
HUGE potential in these thing. In the right hands.
The 2 feelings I can most compare it to are kite skiing and water skiing. On a beach like sunset those skills will take you a long way Very often it feels like riding hard up beside the boat and holding there on
water skis. In a park it feels more like snowkiting on real cruddy snow with short fat old skis
They run amazingly well on hardpack sand. Rough grass is no problem. What will you ride them on ?
You are going to feel my major stoke NOoooooooowwwwwww!!! :evil:PHREERIDER - 4-9-2008 at 10:58 AM
i'll post a pic suitable for the G audience.
pack sand like this
Bladerunner - 4-9-2008 at 12:53 PM
:wow:
You have got a GREAT new ride for sure .
Something I discovered is just how valuable it is to be able to side slide power off on hardpack like that ! Power slides are easy , safe and fun on
that terrain! A good start!
I only wish I had a chance to hang around and get more aquainted with the Ramp Eli built. Coyotes , a ramp , that Titan ( + other kites ) and a beach
like yours will open a whole new world to you Trust me on this ! Now you need
a ramp NOooooowwwww :smug:PHREERIDER - 4-9-2008 at 07:11 PM
had a light wind ride on the water today about an hour (V16), ended it with the first fly for FS Titan 9.5 maybe 30min.
Great prep by John(thanks) on the pack.
solo side launch- no problems
for its size, a powerful kite, wind picked up maybe 20mph and actually got lifty, hoped on the ATB for run upwind about 1/2mile.
the wind was gusty so "overflies" and collapse became something new to manage. I was able to recover all collapses or near collapses. tip fold was
at first a problem but disappeared in about 2-3 min. fast powerful kite, not mindless stable no matter what like PL, but i'm sure more time,
consistent wind, i'll have it on the water in short order. maybe next week maybe tomorrow. nice kite, very fresh. oh the 5th line worked fine.
thanks john,
dropped it, wrapped it up as i found it, "dry cycle" finished.
unpacks & packs quick, Keeping the bars&lines on is new ...no tangles sweet!
bag is nice, the board pouch carries my V16 (rods in) perfectly.
The most difficult part will be coming in to drop my PL @25mph. but change is niceBladerunner - 4-9-2008 at 09:23 PM
I am guessing the Titan will share some charactaristics with my 10m Psycho 2. It needed about 11 mph wind to start to act as it was designed. I loved
that kite but it needed constant attention. I rarely ever felt relaxed under it. Very different than an arc , for sure. My newer Flysurfers are far
less twitchy and a great improvement. That isn't to say that the Titan isn't great ! It has all the good improvements that have been brought forward.
Break aways at the bridle attatchments, jet flaps, blow outs, adjustable bar pressure and all that stuff. Just go in to this kite KNOWING that
Flysurfer has refined the flying characteristics on the newer kites a lot ! Flysurfer is truly " ahead of their time " in my book !
Dropping the Titan at 25mph should be easy with the FDS ! If you can hold on to it at 25
Now get out on those " dogs " and tell me what you think ! :evil:PHREERIDER - 5-9-2008 at 06:40 AM
20 mph seemed fine just started feeling lift. twitchy yes, definitely required attention and a very light touch on the bar. the gust where the
trouble. on the ride with the board really stable and easy to handle. seemed at its best, bar in about 2/3 and as long as you keep it busy powering
the ride very smooth plenty of power. the bar out and higher segments of the window was the when the collapse would occur. i haven't adjusted any
thing so there some room for tweaking.
yes the dogs are gonna be funpowerzone - 5-9-2008 at 12:12 PM
sounds like the risers and mixer are bedding in and need a tweak to make it more stable.
its similar to a Speed1 mixer, but you can get i good idea of the concept of tuning the mixer by downloading the Pulse1 manual or looking at the
online video on how to adjust the tune of the kite.
i'd say set the Cmain mixerball adjuster so that the Criser is about 2cm shorter than the ABgroup risers.... basically move the mixerball towards the
pulleys to shorten the riser relative to the other knots.
you can also move the AB lockout figure 8knot on each side of the AB riser. move the knot down a bit so the Crisers can not go beyond a certain
point... i set the kite to ZERO when it left here, but i only had it up in 10-15mph winds and it was not bedded in yet.
that TITAN was what won me over from TUBE kites back in 2004....and i'll never look back.
have fun !PHREERIDER - 5-9-2008 at 04:42 PM
i'll hook it into some steady wind first for more time to weight the set up and see how it flies, then add the change on the c riser. i had watched
the vid, good reference. thanks for the info .
the trop. storms are mixing up the wind patterns, clean wind coming soon.PHREERIDER - 16-9-2008 at 07:45 AM
A little more time on the titan with the c-riser taken in 2cm, seems to have improved some plus more fly time. def better with the overfly. I
will try 1cm more in on the c-risers definitely light touch on the bar. maybe 2hours on it riding the ATB & STATIC.
better with all that but the invert line twist, if it happens can eat up the time. esp with the 5th line. has the same "psuedo underpowered feel"
like PL( could be a foil thing in general i am just giving my impression) in idle but in flight plenty of power. on a run all seems solid and def
got some smoking power and speed. just keeping it busy in the lulls and idle are the challenging aspects.
OH yeah, PL Venom13 on the way, thanks Don, and unless i fall into a SA 19, I'm done with the gear thing for a while. LEI's FOR SALE!powerzone - 16-9-2008 at 09:39 AM
sent a U2U about an SA 19m...
ill offer it to you FIRST before i list it to the rest of the masses...
you can reply to the thread if you wanna wait and other people can hop on it..PHREERIDER - 30-9-2008 at 05:09 PM
hit the titan again today for about an hour on the atb .
really gettin' a feel for the speed this kite has, wow. the wind window just seems small to me. keeping it back in the window seems to the spot to
keep it . and hard not to go up wind, the downwind whip arounds can really start to smoke thankfully the kite comes around very quick to stay hooked
up, maybe a water run wed/thurs if it feels right.
more funjunk to play with ... PL V13 already hit the water with it but the coyotes are just around the corner this is gonna be wicked sick fun.PHREERIDER - 5-10-2008 at 05:56 PM
saturday out with the V13 smoked the bearing on the ATB ...sooo coyotes are in the backup position , get some time again on these things, really fun
onshore breeze .
incredidble flow with these things. even tried some little jumps. the v13 was right on time. the dogs are on the travelling team. bearings for my
board was the "break" they needed. soon as a good day for the v16 comes up these dogs are gonna fly.
today got a chance to add the v13 on the water. 20-25mph this rig is critical quick my friends, i don't get the easy big air like the v16, but glad
i switched to v13 to finish the last 2hours.PHREERIDER - 11-11-2008 at 07:47 PM
VERY LIGHT, DEFINITELY TOUGHER THAN MY JL 133 AND HOPING FOR MORE RANGE. THE 133 AND ALMOST 200 LBS. REQUIRES A MOUNTAIN OF WIND AND SPEED TO REALLY
ENJOY THIS BOARD. SO I'M HOPING 142X41 GIVES THE FLAT 145 A REST.
REALLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE BOARD...THE SIZE, SHAPE, AND BOTTOM SEEM RIGHT FOR ME AND FOR $200 I WILL FIND SOME GOOD IN IT
ANY OPINIONS GOOD OR BAD...???action jackson - 11-11-2008 at 08:18 PM
Just find yourself a 145x49 and be done with your search. Lightwind-- highwind this board does it all...................ajPHREERIDER - 12-11-2008 at 06:25 AM
the 145 i have will get me out in light, it has NO rocker so it is limited for rougher water, usable, but can catch sometimes. over about 20mph can
be super slick ride.
this board has some rocker and lighter i'll use it today and see.
crazy fly allaround was the choice but this low buck deal has side tracked me ..alittle
fun doing it SO IT'S WORTH A TRYPHREERIDER - 12-11-2008 at 06:32 PM
just finished a session on the water with 142 airush switch.
another moonrise sunset thing but more wind solid 20mph at 4:30 huge rollers coming 10ft maybe a few where 12ft. this spot is know for better surfer
action.
in general the surf here would graded as poor to absent. but does have it's moments
anyway ... board is just right ..planes like a light wind board and handles the rough at speed no problem. very light , comes around in turns and
holds it solid
jumps land alot like the JL, holds alot of load before pops, very forgiving and can really grip with a fast landing
very smooth(definitely in the silky category) and rips up wind effortlessly
it has these little heelside rail fins ...really don't know if they help
the all around board slot is filled ....needs a handle though.action jackson - 12-11-2008 at 07:04 PM
These are the latest fashion!.........................aj
PHREERIDER - 12-11-2008 at 07:45 PM
to floppy, doesn't match my fav shoes any way
i'm def garbage couture, anything new and shiny smells of trying too hardPHREERIDER - 10-12-2008 at 05:04 PM
PL VENOM 16M WITH MODS
I BELIEVE HYPER VENOM IS WHAT THE COLLECTION OF TET AND SECONDARY CANOPY BRAID STRAP SHORTENING OF SOME DIMENSION (NOT SURE ) PER CELL REALLY HADN'T
CHECKED BUT KS DELIVERED ON THE PICS AND LOOKS SO.ANYWAY FLY TIME COMING...SOONlunchbox - 10-12-2008 at 05:21 PM
Hey PR...can you post pics of the mods?PHREERIDER - 10-12-2008 at 05:47 PM
ON IT WITH THE PICS...... BY WAY OF KITESURFER, THANKS
#2 BRAID SHORTENED 2.25" ?, ON BOTH SIDES
PHREERIDER - 10-12-2008 at 05:59 PM
TET FIRST I HAVE SEEN, I THOUGHT IT WOULD RUN UP THE CELL MORE?
7 CENTRAL CELLS
USE THE VEIWER FOR A BETTER LOOK
PHREERIDER - 10-12-2008 at 06:25 PM
NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THEY DO, BUT MAY GIVE BETTER LOW END FEEL BUT KS SAID THAT IT DID NOT SEEM TO IMPED THE TOP END. SO I'LL RUN FOR TOMORROWS
SESSION AND SEE BUT THE V13 MAY BE CHOICE ALL DAY RAIN THING... I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO RAIN RUNStridude - 10-12-2008 at 07:37 PM
TET (trailing edge tuck) is to increase low end and grunt. Ive read of the braid mod but it was external. Said to increase the stiffness of the sail
(both on arcusers forum)lunchbox - 10-12-2008 at 08:04 PM
Very interesting mods...hadn't read about them...Please report back on how she flys...bigsteve - 11-12-2008 at 07:24 AM
Quote:
Powerzone originally wrote:
sent a U2U about an SA 19m...
ill offer it to you FIRST before i list it to the rest of the masses...
you can reply to the thread if you wanna wait and other people can hop on it..
not that im looking to get one or anything... but whats the performance/windrange like as compared to the 17's? Do they take any more wind to get up?
I am still curious how my 17 SA will sit with the new P4 15 coming in from domPHREERIDER - 11-12-2008 at 08:36 AM
AH...BIGSTEVE jOHN (POWERZONE )COULD ANSWER THAT ABOUT THE fLYSURFERS MORE ACCURATELY.
SA19 IS ULTIMATE LIGHT WIND HOOK 17&19 WOULD BE CLOSE, MORE OF A RIDER WEIGHT NEED THAN WIND AVAILABLE. BOTH ARE GNAT FART SENSITIVE SO 3-4KNOTS
IS REALLY MILKING THE BREEZE RIGHT DOWN TO ZERO
I WOULD THINK THE P4 15 WOULD HAVE MORE UPPER RANGE..
ANYWAY ...............WE ARE ON PL TOPIC TODAY SPECIFICALLY HYPER VENOM MODS AS I HAVE ONE AND SHARING MY IMPRESSIONS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF ALL WHO
KNOWS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE LAST ZIPPER IS CLOSED.PHREERIDER - 11-12-2008 at 08:45 AM
SEEMS ANY CHANGE IN THE #2 BRAID WOULD REALLY MAKE THE BACK FEEL VERY SLOPPY SO COMPENSATION WOULD BE NEEDED, KS HAS BEEN ON IT SO I WILL FLY AS IS.
I EXPECT A LITTLE MORE SNATCH IN THE LIFT FROM THE MOD ACCELERATING INTO THE TOP OF THE WINDOW .........
AND IN ABOUT 2 HOURS I WILL KNOWbigsteve - 11-12-2008 at 08:56 AM
Sorry about that i'll bring it up else where at a diff time.. ThanksPHREERIDER - 11-12-2008 at 03:43 PM
OK ...just back from HYPERVENOM session.... 4hours hooked to one PL 16M VENOM ......more laterPHREERIDER - 11-12-2008 at 07:00 PM
wind speed ? 22mph with gust to 28mph local spot meter around miday . 12:30 suited and lit.
wow, trim 80% IN, right to the water , really tight feel alot like a c-kite , the bridal thing seemed to keep things together no flaring (has a LE
line ringed to center cell at #2 braid on the belly), very responsive, improved turning for sure.
if anything it may have robbed from its lower end ... boxed up tight it chokes earlier in lighter wind
same power lift, a little sharper feel
same float maybe a fraction more control
the canopy had little boxier appearance
2+hours on the water
2hours ATB
raining at start til 3PM
and the wind dropped a bit around 3 seemed 12-15mph,
sun came out about 4PM dried out nicely
very nice much tighter set up , glad i got it
thanks KS
FULL MOON RIDE TONIGHT ATB on the same breeze arounnd 1AM ...for the second dose of this tweaked watersnakeaction jackson - 11-12-2008 at 08:10 PM
No fullmoon riding for me. It snowed 3+ inches here last night after blowing 20-30 nw for 36 hrs. That blew all the water out of the lake and bay.
Tides droped 4+ feet. It was quite the challange this morning trying to get off a boat on a fixxed dock with 3 inches of ice. Looking forward to 20=
onshore winds this weekend plus temps back to the seventys..............ajPHREERIDER - 11-12-2008 at 08:22 PM
it was clear but very cloudy now,, but raging 40mph with 45 gust SW hammering through....................... may put off til daytimetridude - 11-12-2008 at 08:25 PM
heres the link with your TET mod and the external stiffner........................
Defer to the forum expert AJ, mods worth trying or not?MadKiteBoy - 11-12-2008 at 08:26 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by PHREERIDER
i'll post a pic suitable for the G audience.
pack sand like this
sorry to jack the forum but quick question... is this folly as well?tridude - 11-12-2008 at 08:42 PM
close.............Hilton Head, he should be at FB on Saturday.....................MadKiteBoy - 11-12-2008 at 08:51 PM
looks like ill be makin a trip to HH soon....PHREERIDER - 12-12-2008 at 06:46 AM
county park at folly will look the about the same
this is a western look so dafuskie is in the background SAV(tybee) is southward.
this pic was last winter and there is a gullyslick washout right through the middle now
the other pics in the gallery (on the water )are just around the corner with dafuskie closer.
the wind here at this point tend to be rough and gusty. the tides are very fast not too many guys like to ride here for those reasons, if its really
nice north or west a small crew shows
road out to the shipping lanes yesterday on a west once you get below dafuskie(south a mile or two) its really nice not so lumpy.PHREERIDER - 12-12-2008 at 07:33 PM
second dose of hypervenom .....carbon copy of yesterday but clear and sunny
4hours all good, even got some loops in cranking through to lulls
gusty 10 -20mph .....all made possible with zippers
Very often it feels like riding hard up beside the boat and holding there on
water skis. In a park it feels more like snowkiting on real cruddy snow with short fat old skis 
Trust me on this ! Now you need
a ramp NOooooowwwww :smug: