Power Kite Forum - first time scared, highest jump yet

first time scared, highest jump yet

piku303 - 13-1-2009 at 05:57 PM

beachrights - 13-1-2009 at 06:20 PM

Deja vu anyone?!

carltb - 13-1-2009 at 06:38 PM

something simalar but not quite a jump.

i was kiting at the weekend and was boosting huge and loving it, but on one run i went to send the kite and just before i pulled in the bar, a little voice inside me screemed nooooooooooooooo! this has never happened before and the conditions were the same as the previous jumps but it just wasnt right. i have lost alot of fear over the years and always try to go as high as possible. i love high winds and small kites. i cant really explain it and its bugged me since. i dont think it was fear that stopped me, so what else could it have been.

nwsurfwakeskate - 13-1-2009 at 06:57 PM

haha,

u know I think even after getting out on the water a dozen or so times this year. my first jump was still my highest one yet.

was out using the pulse 2 12m. sent the kite hard expecting it to not do very much. I must have gone straight up 30ft! floated back down making sure I kept the kite right over head. plopped down in the water and as soon as my head got above water again I sat there for a second and said WOW :shocked2:

PHREERIDER - 13-1-2009 at 07:09 PM

when i first started flying c-kites right before about every session(maybe the first 10)

i would have such an adrenaline rush my teeth would chatter on the drive to my spot.

getting set up and pumping the kite, my stomach a blender of butterflies,,,,

the launch!..............completely chills me out and the first rip..... heaven's ride

fright to flight or jonesin' junkie scores

always fear, it drives your reflexes and like carltb described you know when its wrong ...it says NO!

BeamerBob - 13-1-2009 at 07:11 PM

Mine was with a Blade IV 6.5. It was tridudes, who loaned it to me for a weekend (What a guy) then sold it to furbowski. The wind was about 14 and I had just set up. On medium lift on the AAA. I had been talking to some guys flying a 40 year old single line delta and when it scudded me about 15 to 20 feet on launch one of the guys said out loud, "Wow, I bet that thing could pick you up off the ground"! The little voice inside me said "watch this". I sent it hard and went 10-12 feet straight up and redirected nicely for a floaty landing in the soft sand. Wexler was slackjawed and the guy with the delta asked "did you MEAN to do that"? Never forget it.

revpaul - 13-1-2009 at 08:40 PM

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that's how i felt on my second/recent kick at the moto-X cat but not when i was younger. when i was younger i jumped huge and (lucky) never got hurt at all. the second time around i rode with buddies high-high speed through the bush. enduro/hare scramble. hardly any jumps just for jumps sake. figured i'd better not push my luck.
i feel the same way about kites. keep the wheels on the ground and go fast. i did not follow that policy last weekend though. jumps were my biggest but baby jumps compared to the cool guys. thing that struck me is; watching those guys for one afternoon really answered my "if i wanted to, how do I jump" question. i never really figured the mechanics of a jump by watching the vids.
i here a little voice now telling me "it's OK dude, you can do it too, just start small, you'll be fine...honest".

piku303 - 13-1-2009 at 11:48 PM

for me with static flying, the jumping is the most fun part...my field is not big enough for endless scuds...learn to jump, there is just something about leaving the ground that is special

plus it will add a totally new side to your sport. also i think that as a safety measure you should know how to jump, in the case that you ever did get lofted, you would know what to do to get back down safely. it would be reflex instead of "what do i do again?" by then its too late.

PHREERIDER - 14-1-2009 at 06:52 AM

about 25-30 ft on the water total rush

on land (ATB) about 15ft could be more hard to tell esp. at night you just feel the flow and float redirect slower to soften the drop.

very addictive,

i have to say the jumping was a great progression for me both land and water

but really getting the transition jump redirect with the pause at the apex and really put the heat in a down loop turn from toeside .

down loop turn had to be the most challenging for me real gut check for me and still always a deep breath every time on land not as fast but even more cautious

KYTE SLINGER - 14-1-2009 at 07:18 AM

for me if I can't get 20+ feet off the ground it's not fun ....

once you have confidence in your landings the higher you'll push your self even at times when the unsuspected abductions happens you'll still have confidence landing

I doubt if I would have ever brought my self to push it to what my jumps has become if it wasn't for the fact my beach has the perfect soft sand to land in and a high rise hotel that provides a bubble to get huge air off of ........................

the hotel is 3 stories high with a 5 foot roof ridge line and it sits atop a sea wall 15 feet above the beach ...when I can see over the hotel roof I'm a happy jumper:wee:

if your not on the edge then your taken up to much space

revpaul - 14-1-2009 at 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by KYTE SLINGER
for me if I can't get 20+ feet off the ground it's not fun ....

once you have confidence in your landings the higher you'll push your self even at times when the unsuspected abductions happens you'll still have confidence landing

I doubt if I would have ever brought my self to push it to what my jumps has become if it wasn't for the fact my beach has the perfect soft sand to land in and a high rise hotel that provides a bubble to get huge air off of ........................

the hotel is 3 stories high with a 5 foot roof ridge line and it sits atop a sea wall 15 feet above the beach ...when I can see over the hotel roof I'm a happy jumper:wee:

if your not on the edge then your taken up to much space

how does one , who can't seem to learn by watching web vids, go about learning to jump. like you said, it's the landing that counts.
*i seen the guys jumping and have it figured out to this point. (no doubt a vary basic line of thinking and full of holes)
-moving cross wind with kite low and parked. move kite up and to opposite direction of travel (initiates a pendulum jump). after take-off, turn kite back to original direction of travel and prep for landing.
i watched but can't be sure if the guys ever let off the bar throughout the process.
someone care to fill in the missing parts. i assume wind conditons will vary jump technique/procedure. at what point in the jump do we turn kite back to original direction? just after take off, at apex, go by feel? do we keep bar on full power until landing. what am i missing (aside from practise/experience). i would like to jump but only if i can get those nice smooth landings down pat.
Paul

carltb - 14-1-2009 at 12:52 PM

bar full in until you reach the top of the jump. let the bar out (this speeds up the kite aswell) redirect. just before landing pull the bar in again for a smooth landing. practise practise practise practise practise practise !!!!!!

KYTE SLINGER - 14-1-2009 at 01:25 PM

gosh !!! I haven't jumped in so long on a bar system...

on handles spins are quicker because hands are x far apart

bar ...slower spin because line connection points are X far apart

not only that I wasn't able to get the inverted 360 jump spin w/o getting my feet caught up in the lines ....like smacking the lines in a direction I had no intention in going{not fun inverted} or snagging one line and deflating a wingtip ...... for better control ,spins and safety + depower is a flick of the wrist
i'm a handle person + i feel more center balanced

revpaul - 14-1-2009 at 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by carltb
bar full in until you reach the top of the jump. let the bar out (this speeds up the kite aswell) redirect. just before landing pull the bar in again for a smooth landing. practise practise practise practise practise practise !!!!!!

thanks,
makes sense. want to get the basics steps straight in my head "before" i try some real jumping. i imagine things will, at some point, just go by feel. need to build good foundation technique.
*with FS's, setting steering to the 'hard' side of normal will make kite turn quicker or just less pull on bar to turn kite?
Paul

windsurfslice - 15-1-2009 at 02:54 PM

the unpredictability of smaller kites and higher winds always yields the potential for good stories! keep posting pics, bros, i love it!

crabnebula - 25-2-2009 at 09:51 AM

I understand....here on Xmas in western Massachusetts in USA I was almost instantly 100 feet in the air....

crabnebula - 25-2-2009 at 09:51 AM

funny this was me half way down the total height gained...
basically there was a rising air parcel....and I got in it at the wrong (or right ) moment.

Bladerunner - 25-2-2009 at 09:59 AM

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Originally posted by PHREERIDER
when i first started flying c-kites right before about every session(maybe the first 10)

i would have such an adrenaline rush my teeth would chatter on the drive to my spot.

getting set up and pumping the kite, my stomach a blender of butterflies,,,,

the launch!..............completely chills me out and the first rip..... heaven's ride

fright to flight or jonesin' junkie scores

always fear, it drives your reflexes and like carltb described you know when its wrong ...it says NO!

I know exactly what you mean about the ride there and the shakes. + the scarey C kites. I always wondered am I that excited or that scared :wee:

I don't get those shakes as much as I used to but I still get those " this is a 1st " feelings a lot. The feeling from one of them can leave me with a grin for days !!!!! :roll:

Crazy air for sure Crab' :thumbup:

How was the landing ?

windsurfslice - 26-2-2009 at 05:52 PM

crabnebula, that is awesome, youre a beast