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PHREERIDER - 15-4-2009 at 06:53 AM

my ATB is tattered and tired.

coyotes are in the top of the rotation

did a sunset session about 1.5 hours rigged with the P15

i think i'm on my 6th session with these things

light wind @12-15mph scored a few choice jumps height somewhere around 8ft and float out about 60 ft. i can clearly see over and past the dunes+sea oats. maybe even higher

some smoking hot down loop turns and snappy switches and 4-5 foot trans airs .

front side to backside pop with a jump

jump/ trans. air both directions forwards and backwards

the landings are much softer than on the ATB esp. on the transitions. although my redirect on the ATB is sometimes harder. i think a loop will fill in better for the blades IF I HAD MY V13 i would've probably already done it. i can loop the phantom on the water but it won't come around in lower winds on land and i need it higher in the window.


AHHH fallin' in love

i know they'll be junk in a few months so i'll play as long as they last. i feel the plastic rims are a weak point(ALUMINUM would be choice) the tires ..they 'll be the first to go....just a matter of hours, fresh they may be now, but looks to be maybe 50-100hours and they 'll be an issue. so by june i'll need new junk , probably will go to the doom set by default they have crappy bearings that may last maybe 20hours which is about 2 weeks.... that show will be short

any way today ... we'll see what the flow brings us

BeamerBob - 15-4-2009 at 07:31 AM

For the use/abuse you give your equipment and the hours that you put in with them, you should have the best top/drawer ATB out there. Your skills and time spent would extract everything the equipment has to give.

You also ought to make a thread that is your own little blog of your daily exploits. I know there are others that would be just as interested as me to hear your condition/equipment used/accomplishments big and small. You stand out here with your time spent, and deep familiarity with your equipment, so I know lots of us could learn from whatever you share with us. Keep the flow flowing.

PHREERIDER - 15-4-2009 at 09:07 AM

thanks bob, consumption data, i consume fun things. def have the info in my head

the style that is coming out these things fairly light and smooth but down wind switching runs can really heat the tires up. i have no idea what it looks like from view but feels cool if I HAD A V13 or quicker kite it would be even better.

the skates have few moving parts and that's a good sign. even the brake is coming off it's just in they way. some booth articulation points will show trouble but that's just custom seasoning in bloom

the bearing show is always in effect but i am making a point to keep them dry

the top draw stuff is nice but very light ..that it's feature. light is good for swing weight and quickness and ease of handling in flight.

time on top self just makes for $$$junk in the end. i hate ruining nice things but when you don't have many items to spread the load out on , something gonna get abused

the ATB "board" is tough absolute, maple lam. MBS 16 CORE. trucks go to junk <1yr. i'm sure there are better,

moving parts are doomed.

skate truck style are far better esp. if you like it super loose

it's a total exchange of wear at pressure points
-stiff stuff you smoke the tires and eventually the bearings
-loose stuff eats the trucks
-gotta balance rigidity or breakage arrives quick
-too soft you loose performance and wears quick

anyway the only things holding solid... PL kites and me.... everything in between is ground into oblivion.

i am sure as my style lightens for the skates things should more mileage, hopefully

Bladerunner - 15-4-2009 at 09:22 AM

I have been talking with Screwyfits about Him fabricating a set of Alum' rims for me. I agree that they are the weakest link and I have had failures. I'll mention that He may want to pop off a second set for You or someone else.

I have a link to tires and tubes.

My bearings have seizes up after forgetting to wash them after a salt water session. Once they were forced to roll they actually loosened up again !

My Coyotes are coming on to 2 years old now. I bought a back up set from Ebay because I agree that the life of the whole system is limited. Big shout out to Rollerblade though these things ARE TOUGH !!!! Pity they quit making them .


As far as I know NOBODY on EARTH has jumped 8ft high and 60ft.

Chad is going places that NO MAN has ever gone before. :wow:

How cool is THAT in this day and age !!!! :wee:

P.S. inspect your Frames each time out. I bit cracked off of mine !

PHREERIDER - 15-4-2009 at 09:58 AM

he 's also got a line on the suspension board that needs a life

a few extra tires and rims would be nice back up, i have a bucket bearings to go through, determine to keep them dry as possible

PHREERIDER - 17-4-2009 at 05:52 AM

couple more coyotes sessions

yesterday , did a 10mile down winder on the water then rest for WILD E. COYOTE AIR SHOW for 2hours.

wind has been around 12-15 but find myself wanting more .

15+ is when things flow a little better kite gets around better and i'm not waiting on the rig so much

the jumps are cool but the whipping down wind power slides are deluxe the sand spray fans just like water about two feet high, then pop over and do it the other direction .

loop turn and then back for a jump yields nice float out with decent height .. this is where the loop at the top of the jump would fit nicely to keep the kite out in front more. the skates will reach up wind nicely ,,did a 2 mile upwind run with about 50-60 trans. the balancing edge is narrow so even head position in the slightest will affect the upwind line and rig position.

some neat nuances are coming out lending to more things to come and conditions tolerance for rides in higher winds

at 20 mph the P15 is at its best but a quicker turning/ lifty rig like A V13 (that hopefully comes to me soon) may prove better

i'm sticking to the coyotes the ATB(i have completely forgot about it) is rusting in the back of the truck

BeamerBob - 17-4-2009 at 07:21 AM

Have you found a top end for your phanny yet? I haven't had much chance to explore its boundaries yet. I've had limited winds every chance I've had to fly it. I figured high teens and lower 20's would be well powered. I'll have to make sure I can still stay in the buggy seat though.

Bladerunner - 17-4-2009 at 08:55 AM

I know exactly what you mean about the power slides as my avatar shows :wee:

It is good and bad though ! I can't hold down as much power on the hard pack like that as I can on good turf or the Playa. It is also nice that you slide out a bit when missing a landing or landing hot.

Someone better take a video camera to Jibe 'cause I want to see a video of you going BIG on those old dogs ! :yes:



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Originally posted by PHREERIDER

the jumps are cool but the whipping down wind power slides are deluxe the sand spray fans just like water about two feet high, then pop over and do it the other direction .

BeamerBob - 17-4-2009 at 09:12 AM

Wexler is a youtube hound. He'll have our point and shoot which takes ok video. SHOWTIME!

Bladerunner - 17-4-2009 at 09:20 AM

VERY COOL !

I promise that there won't be anything like the video you get on Youtube now :cool2:

Wexler will be filming History ! :ninja:

Nijdam skates?

lad - 17-4-2009 at 10:35 AM

I see these Dutch skates all over eBay -are they just a cheap Coyote substitute?

Bladerunner - 17-4-2009 at 10:37 AM

Those look the JOB !!!
:thumbup:

How easy is it to get size 12 , 13 etc. ?

BeamerBob - 17-4-2009 at 10:58 AM

looks like 7-8.5. my story all the time.

Bladerunner - 17-4-2009 at 12:13 PM

What are you using for a search term to find these on Ebay ?

BeamerBob - 17-4-2009 at 02:04 PM

off road skate

lad - 17-4-2009 at 08:08 PM

I think you can google the nijdam site, or other (prob. Euro) distributors for more sizes - or just send the ebay seller a question.

PHREERIDER - 18-4-2009 at 03:57 PM

gonna start the day tomorrow, running the dogs ...maybe we'll catch something....

then a clean up water session,



and then we feast on our catch.

PHREERIDER - 18-4-2009 at 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by BeamerBob
Have you found a top end for your phanny yet? I haven't had much chance to explore its boundaries yet. I've had limited winds every chance I've had to fly it. I figured high teens and lower 20's would be well powered. I'll have to make sure I can still stay in the buggy seat though.



BOB, the P15 can be a monster over 25mph

20mph is incredible

but all day fun in 12-15MPH

for safety in higher winds i will go to the water. in higher winds it dosen't like to be snatched around unless kept FULL ON. which is ok when running on water .. unless its dead on shore with plenty of space.

be careful

BeamerBob - 18-4-2009 at 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by PHREERIDER
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Originally posted by BeamerBob
Have you found a top end for your phanny yet? I haven't had much chance to explore its boundaries yet. I've had limited winds every chance I've had to fly it. I figured high teens and lower 20's would be well powered. I'll have to make sure I can still stay in the buggy seat though.



BOB, the P15 can be a monster over 25mph

20mph is incredible

but all day fun in 12-15MPH

for safety in higher winds i will go to the water. in higher winds it dosen't like to be snatched around unless kept FULL ON. which is ok when running on water .. unless its dead on shore with plenty of space.

be careful


Thanks Phree. I'll keep that girl in the bag above 20 then. I haven't been sure what its limits were hearing you talking about 13m venoms in 40 mph winds. 20 sounds like it could be my limit with the phanny though. You coming to JIBE so I can pick your brain a little?

PHREERIDER - 18-4-2009 at 07:58 PM

JIBE is on the calender. i(maybe the family as well) should get 2 days.
P15 is a fantastic kite the air cradle it produces in 15-20 is rock solid, it's turn speed and lift/power band are smooth and steady make for easy timing felt through the bar.

PHREERIDER - 26-6-2009 at 04:23 PM

wife drops in for a session (making sure i'm really kiting)

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PHREERIDER - 26-6-2009 at 04:29 PM

oh and the helmet was hot ! but was indeed on for 1.5hours

and a few in the gallery

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Bladerunner - 26-6-2009 at 05:12 PM

Right ON!

That is probably the BEST kite skate shot I have ever seen ! :eekdrull:

Kamikuza - 26-6-2009 at 05:31 PM

I got TrailSkates on the way from Canada now :cool2:

mgatc - 26-6-2009 at 07:19 PM

Bangin air Chad! My compliments to the Photog. What were you flying that day?

GOT to come see you soon.

m

PHREERIDER - 28-6-2009 at 08:14 PM

tripped to seabrook island on SAT.

mother nature pumps in right on time with 15-20mph

did some of this

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PHREERIDER - 28-6-2009 at 08:15 PM

and some of this

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PHREERIDER - 28-6-2009 at 08:16 PM

it was a ..

beautiful day

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PHREERIDER - 28-6-2009 at 08:20 PM

results brought to you by helmet wearing chad,

coyotes under venom(13m in about 20mph)

THE WIFE with camera

and a big thanks to mother nature for the puff

PHREERIDER - 29-6-2009 at 04:54 AM

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Originally posted by mgatc
Bangin air Chad! My compliments to the Photog. What were you flying that day?

GOT to come see you soon.

m



hey mel, V13 in about 12mph, shore breeze is finally rotating in. i have been run off by lighting several times already, friday a huge nasty cell dropped in with lots of sparks. went to Charleston area over the weekend they definitely get a few more knots there. that's a great spot ride

PHREERIDER - 30-6-2009 at 06:31 AM

last day of june and the skates are dry and rolling problem free


oh yeah, the special flight feature seems to be just fine

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