Does this man look like a crook???

Just a link back to the suspicious videos on the second page..

http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=28188&p...

If the he did what I think he did then yes! I had people rip me off for lots of money and due to that I trust a lot less these days. It's unfortunate that it has to come to that. It's pathetic to do that. People need to go out get a job and be honest. Maybe make this world a better place.

Oh so glad I read to the end. Best ending ever!!! I mean wow I wonder if it is coincidence but I seriously don't think so. Good catch Riff if anything maybe kent owes you something now.

Quote: Originally posted by cheezycheese

This thread should be locked. It is nothing but poison. Should be handled in private.

While I agreed earlier, I think this really needs to play out to the end until one of the parties confirms what is really going on here. :o

Yes. The new "twist" is rather interesting.

My mind was just blown... what an incredible find!

I think this should have stayed private....

Let's keep in mind that there are other possible explanations..

Wait....wtf is going on? Is April fool type stuff?

I had a sail and mast from Kent but no Blokart. I bought one in Dubai. So I think there may be grounds to file a slander suit against people on this site. You are the venomous ones not a person who is trying to get a refund.

I want a refund for the $1973 blokart that never arrived from Kent.

To Kent:

All that you write sounds reasonable and it makes good PR for your supporters. But it is shrewd stalling tactic and you still don’t want to take what you think may be a loss. You are making a refund contingent on your dealings with USPS and getting money back from them in an insurance claim. As Caritb mentioned in his post, in the US as in the UK, under consumer law I am entitled to a full and immediate refund NOW! It has been 6 months. I have consulted a lawyer concerning this as well as my bank which tells me that VISA can start claiming back funds 30 days after non-delivery of a shipment. I repeat, it has been 6 months.

Quote: Originally posted by mikeskor

So I think there may be grounds to file a slander suit against people on this site.

^^^ ^^^

Sorry, I couldn't help but weigh in. This kind of participation in the community that we value so much should not be tolerated.

Close the thread, ban mikeskor. What a joke.

Show us a legit receipt for the blokart you bought in Dubai.

You do not deserve or merit any explanation. You are a mob with a mob mentality.

Ok...cracking another beer and staying up w/this
U come ring our doorbell and wonder why we ask who is it?
Stupidass

OK, I'm officially voting NO for the refund. When you sign up to go on a forum for the sole purpose of hitting out at a retailer without disclosing ALL the facts or being reasonable about it, you deserve every bit of crap the forum community sends your way. You reap what you sow.

Yup. I hope the Blokart surfaces and reaches it's final destination. Sounds like he's setting up a retail outlet anyway: "Want to know how to buy one of these? Email me".

Congrats, you now have 'inventory'. See if anyone tries to back out of a deal when something you have no control over happens. What goes around comes around.

Not sure on pricing but you received a mast and a sail but no blokart and want a full refund? Isn't the mast and sail included in the price of 1973$? If so you are asking to get something for nothing. Also you bought another kart before you got the first one straightened out? Sounds kinda fishy to me.

Also kinda sounding suit happy to me just saying...

P.s.

Why would you get one from USA and go through all the trouble if you could get one in Dubia?

Quote: Originally posted by mikeskor

I had a sail and mast from Kent but no Blokart. I bought one in Dubai. So I think there may be grounds to file a slander suit against people on this site. You are the venomous ones not a person who is trying to get a refund. I want a refund for the $1973 blokart that never arrived from Kent. To Kent: All that you write sounds reasonable and it makes good PR for your supporters. But it is shrewd stalling tactic and you still don’t want to take what you think may be a loss. You are making a refund contingent on your dealings with USPS and getting money back from them in an insurance claim. As Caritb mentioned in his post, in the US as in the UK, under consumer law I am entitled to a full and immediate refund NOW! It has been 6 months. I have consulted a lawyer concerning this as well as my bank which tells me that VISA can start claiming back funds 30 days after non-delivery of a shipment. I repeat, it has been 6 months.

Why didn't you just buy the thing in Dubai in the first place? :puzzled:

Of the 6 months you're crying about, it seems that 3 weeks was shipping, and 5 months of it was wasted on YOUR END.

So you hoped that coming on a site where the vendor has a strong presence and customer base, accusing them of trying to rip you off was going to... what, exactly?

Shame them into coughing up a refund out of their own pockets rather than through the channels that you agreed on when you paid for the product?

Whip the crowd up into a frenzy of indignation and through force of numbers, shame the vendor into coughing up?

... kinda sucks when the mob doesn't come around to your mentality, huh.

You know my name and where I live. Are either of you man enough to tell me your name and where you live?

Lemme guess Mike your going to pursue legal compensation? Are you a man or a child? You are acting very immature for someone your age. You should be ashamed of yourself!

good luck with that dude LOL Come on down to Va Beach and find me .... Please

I don't think anyone here is ungentlemanly enough to thump a pensioner.

Not at all. We will leave that to the blue hair brigade.

Two different tires on two different steering "forks". What a/an (insert expletive deleted here)!

Let's see how this goes. look very carefully at my posts. At the beginning of the thread, I attempted to get you to understand the US Postal system's relationship with the APO/FPO system. As for your Youtube Page, I've leveled no accusations towards you. I've merely reprinted your own words and descriptions to bring possibly relevant information to a conversation YOU started. I even had the common courtesy to mask your email so as not to subject you to additional SPAM email. Looks closely, I even advised you (along with many others) to take this back offline and resume your dealings with Kent alone.

The only statement I made was,
"You obviously signed up for the sole purpose of venting your frustration.."

which was confirming your point before in the thread where you stated,

"I have gone public as a way to make you realize I am serious about wanting the refund. All these things, you say you are doing on my behalf have come about recently since I said I would go public."

Let's look at a bit of information

Generally speaking:

Defamation is the issuance of a false statement about another person, which causes that person to suffer harm. I've made no statements about you. Merely asked a few speculative questions based on your public information that you posted here and elsewhere.

Slander involves the making of defamatory statements by a transitory (non-fixed) representation, usually an oral (spoken) representation. does not apply here

Libel involves the making of defamatory statements in a fixed or medium, such as a magazine or newspaper. I've made no such statements and there are other factors to consider before you head down this road.



In 1964, the U.S. Supreme Court decided a case entitled New York Times v Sullivan, and applied the First Amendment to hold that where a public figure attempts to bring an action for defamation, the public figure must prove an additional element: That the statement was made with "actual malice". "Actual malice" means that the person making the statement knew the statement to be false, or issued the statement with reckless disregard as to its truth. I only asked questions. I made no statements towards you (false or otherwise), I merely reprinted your words and asked a few questions. You've answered those questions. Whether I believe you or not is irrelevant. I'll make no statement as to my opinion. No malice here..


It is not necessary to be a celebrity or political leader in order to be deemed a "public figure".

Limited Public Figure - A person may become a "limited public figure" by engaging in actions which generate publicity within a narrow area of interest Like say a Kiting forum?. Example: A woman named Terry Rakolta was offended by the Fox Television show, Married With Children, and wrote letters to the show's advertisers to try to get them to stop their support for the show. Her actions attracted media attention, and as a result Ms. Rakolta became the target of jokes in a wide variety of settings. As these jokes remained within the confines of her public conduct, typically ridiculing her as prudish or censorious, the jokesters were protected by Ms. Rakolta's status as a "limited public figure". I'd say your publicity has increased a lot as a result of your actions here.. Nice videos though.


Source information. http://www.attorneys-usa.com/intentional/defamation.html


It might be in your best interest to go back and look at your own statements before calling people out. IMO Kent may have some recourse but that's not my call. I took a good capture of all of the posts to this point so editing your post and changing your words at this point may not help..

You actually gained a bit of credibility with the community by not pulling your youtube videos but you really need to rethink your position here based on the motives you yourself stated..

I still suggest you take this back offline and deal with Kent.

Personally, I feel there's nothing productive to explore from this point.. I'm done with this thread.

This thread is getting good. Almost as good with plot twists as "Breaking Bad". Honey, get another bag of popcorn!

Quote: Originally posted by acampbell

This thread is getting good. Almost as good with plot twists as "Breaking Bad". Honey, get another bag of popcorn!

Wait for it.... wait for it....




ATB,
Sam

As PKF does not allow commercial posting, it's only right that we also curtail customer complaint issues once they have been addressed and exhausted. Now that this thread has turned into a flame, it's time to close it. This matter should be handled between the customer and the vendor in private. This topic is now closed.