Bummer, UPS isnot bringing my kite until next Friday. Dumb holiday shipping schedule, note to self, dont order a kite just before Christmas.

UPS and I are not on good terms this holiday season. They screwed up two of my purchases.

I am starting to wonder If my shipment didn't get screwed up. I think I might shoot Chris an email, he thought I was going to get the kite today.

Why on earth would UPS send the kite to Texas when its final destination is Minnesota?

UPS said they deliverd my Kite Today! It's 3 days early, there is a god!

To bad I am stuck at work, and tomrow the winds are going to be wiping at 15-20 with gusts as high as 30, and dont forget the -25 below windchill.

Sunday is looking up, light winds at 10 mph and no gusts good day for a first flight!:D

Those 11m foils will pull about as hard in the top end as your average 13-14m LEI. This is me comparing a best kahoona 13.5 to an 11m apex and 11m frenzy. The major difference is that you'll be able to use the foil on land long before the LEI will even fly (or launch for that matter). Depending on things like altitude, temperature, humidity, etc, the frenzy you bought should work just fine below 10mph as long as you're not in deep powder. Depower on the ozone kites is pretty good. Maybe not as good as some flysurfer kites, but good enough that I've had mine out in gusts will above 20mph. Depending on skill and conditions, I would almost be willing to say you could take it out in 20mph base wind speed as long as it wasn't gusting much higher.

Looks like it's too late to recommend a size, but with the average/min/max stats you put up, it might take a little getting used to before you're comfortable with the 11m most of the time. Not sure what the average/ highest speeds actually mean in those stats though.

For the record I am interested to hear what you think of the frenzy vs the apex. Apparently we both own the same two, other than your frenzy possibly being a couple years newer. I never did get around comparing them directly on the same day, so my perception is all based on separate days of using either one. I do think that the frenzy should feel more powerful just because of the improved response to bar input, and for practical purposes, if you're working it a little in the air, you'll get more power out of it.

I have a 9 meter Montana 7. It's like a one kite quiver. I've been able to fly it in conditions when Jeff was on his 7m LEI and his 12M ozone. It's fast as hell and turns quite quickly. That being said, I agree with what Jeff said about the HQ chicken loops, they're a big bulky and longer than need be. I'm not sure I'd recommend a Montana for a newb but I started on a 9.5 montana 3 after learning the ropes on a 4.5 pansh.