Ok, so I've been lurking around Ikitesurf.com looking for a good deal and here's what I found. A 2004 Niash V4 for 150 complete. What do you think?

i have one .

it not a depowerable kite like a bow with a bridle.

it is a lei c-kite. very powerful its med. AR allows for decent handling. i like it. for water and land . this version is considered a "nervous" kite. it dosen't like to sit still. alot of constant input and attention. it favored my flying syle at first.

this type of kite really likes to be left open without much sheeting action, pretty much on or off.

the series that replaced this kite Boxer (it is a c-kite as well)
much friendlier and stable. one of don montague's best all-around rigs. kinda decent for anything

lei c-kites to me represent true machined apex power

150 is a steal if the rig is solid. but most would n't touch it because it is a c-kite. a punishing piece of garbage. sad but true. naish put a lot kites on the planet

So your saying don't get it? I most likely not get it because it's a 2004 model.

it not a beginner kite. and you'll need to know how to repair it.

Not a good choice !

If you MUST get an older C kite it should have a minimum of a fifth line attachment and a 5 line bar.

As a rule of thumb, most kites got a lot better / safer from 05 on.

yeah I'm not going to buy any kite that's older than 06. When did they start putting D-power bars on kites?

I think about 2,000 ? Good question !

Was it Wipiki or Naish ???????

Or ...... was there a depower foil 1st ?

ok, so that's a big "I don't know" hahahahaah



So mean time while I was waiting for a good deal to pop up on Ikitesurf I ordered the Progression Beginner Series and that helped me A LOT with understanding stuff :bigok:

we had a wipika in 1990, not depower, but inflatable 2 line scary

2006 was the experimental year for tubes on the depower road

2007 best for bow and depower tubes

lei '90 2-line ......ready for your lesson grasshopper!

How about a "2007 Blade Kites Vertigo Hybird kite. C shape with bridal on LE"for 200/w bar and everything? do hybrid kites have a lower wind range than normal LEI kites?

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Originally posted by PHREERIDER 2006 was the experimental year for tubes on the depower road 2007 best for bow and depower tubes lei '90 2-line ......ready for your lesson grasshopper!

I started on a '02 fuel and it was a 4 line depower C kite. Are you taking about bridled LEI kites with this date range?

I must be a hardened old fool because I'm still a fan of the old raw power of kites. I don't like the new flat kites. I like firm bar pressure and lots of power, not that loose feeling. If I could go back again all those years ago, I probably wouldn't learn on a Fuel, but I survived with no injuries. The most important thing is making sure that the kite has a safety system that will release the kites power, and a back up to release the kite if you need to and knowing how to use it properly at a moments notice. Then any kite can be fun.

I'm going to wait till all those old C kites are $50 and snatch them all up and stockpile them!

should have narrowed it with "bow" SLE with a bridle.

yes the flat bow kites, i felt like they have enormous depower range certainly when compared to older four line kites

yes i love my old c-kite which are 04 /05 . really taught me alot about flow of power and kite control