talk to powerzone as well.

he is a dealer for both brands

he rides exclusively flysurfer for water and flysurfer/peterlynn for landboarding

I just had fix one of my kites, so I know he is a Jedi Master. But what side of the force does Powerzone use?

Are you saying he is a switch hitter? He uses the light side on water and D'arc side on land? Amazing.

yeah he tends to favor the light side but definitely uses both.

I have a 12m phanny too so I'm technically a switch hitter as well

this will be touchy so dont take this wrong.......with auto zenith the Lynns are awesome for board, buggy, or landboard starts.........the kite flies itself and your learning curve will be on the fastest track. FSer albeit user friendly are not beginner depower foils IMO (at least for me). I say this because my intro to depower was with FSer and in all honesty, I wasnt ready for them. The Lynns gave me confidence and skillz improved fast. My re entry with FSer has been so enjoyable due mainly from my time spent on arcs. I still have two (Arcs) and will probably keep one for land/water use.....both are true quality and a pleasure to fly.......................

Just watched a couple of videos that outlined the need for good safety equipment - relevance to this thread is that they are of a PL Synergy and a Flysurfer (I'm sure someone here will know exactly what kind) demonstrating how they can be misused. The Flysurfer clip looks like the pilot had some difficulty relaunching and continued to mess with it when he should have called it in the wind conditions he was attempting to fly in. The PL vid shows that as much as the PL's are gust eaters, they are not perfect. He should have ejected after the first uncontrolled high "pop".

Peter Lynn
http://www.vimeo.com/5726203

Flysurfer
http://www.vimeo.com/3058467

keeping a little bit of backstall tuned into your sheeting range is useful for those powered flysurfer hot launches.

I never really get yarded anymore when i relaunch now that i have started keeping the bar in right on the limit of backstall to slowly let the kite rise off the water.

its amazing how little power a stalled out Speed 2 has even when its right in the powerzone

I picked up on the backstall method of keeping things calm about the time I got my 7m Pulse. I have been doing pretty much the same with my fixed bridles for a long time.

I think that my 10m Psycho II was too technical a kite for my flying skill when I got it but at the same time I think that my 7m Pulse was a fantastic beginers depower ?

I have had a similar crash to the Flysurfer vid right down to pulling just before a fence like that but on snow. I haven't been lofted like that but somehow think I would prefer it ????

Trying to compare these 2 is constant contradiction in my own mind. One thing is for sure . BOTH are great fun to fly!!!

haha yeah it is hard to compare the two....

at least we arent trying to talk about inflatables in the same threead :singing:

What kind of kite was flying in the background? I couldn't quite tell but it looked like a Peter Lynn to me. I it was it sure is Ironic considering the topic being discussed.

I have only used Peter Lynn, but I like what flysurfer has to offer and will buy one someday. I think they are both great brands. I LOVE how user friendly the synergy has been to learn on.

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Originally posted by live2hover I think they are both great brands. I LOVE how user friendly the synergy has been to learn on.

I think I can say the same about my Syn. It has turned my jumps in to the ones I have been striving for.

For me , it was sort of ......... My 13m was slow on the redirect and my 7 was short on float . Now I have it better dialed I'm sure I can go back to Flyurfer and jump a lot better .( It is important to note that I have been a bit wimpy with my jump attempts until lately. )The Syn sort of turns and feels like the 7 and floats like the 13 for me ???????????

i had an old FS with a depower mod titan , which i know much newer stuff with better handling and range out there.

but a couple of back to back session on PL venom and FS .

after about 20 hours on the FS and a handful of collapses which improved over time . very powerful but a narrow band of performance and the collapse thing just makes for a uneasy feel on the water and brutal on land . very tedious attention was needed to run it, relaunch was easy and quick, very snatchy in and out of sweet spot . when kept in the sweet spot it had ton of power and as you picked up speed felt solid . but that seemed about it. 15-20mph may have been too much timing and input just different from c-kites and PL. different shape of the sweet spot in the FS powerzone. for me this made the edge more vague and smaller. adjusting wasn't gonna happen and jumped back to PL. i would jump at the chance to try a pulse / speed 2.

gusty winds are challenging to begin with and would only consider a PL.
tedious launch but its worth it for that flying comfort

Some good Arc fun from over the weekend... i didn't want to open another thread just for this pic so I put it on the first thread i could find with ARC in the title

So its a 15m Phantom and your scorp?

So what im hearing is that speed 2's and silver arrows are better in the low wind range, but cost an arm and a leg... maybe one of my ribs too.

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Originally posted by BeamerBob So its a 15m Phantom and your scorp?

I hope that's not his Scorp. Since I've got "his" Scorp sitting in my closet.

It looks like a Scorpion in the pic and he had one in his sig when he posted the pic back mid July. What? Someone sold a kite. HERESY!

I'll agree though, it does look like a Scorpion in the bottom right.