..... love all this feedback on this post ....

.....lots of Arc lovers here ..... and looks like almost everyone agree that those kites are superb ..... autozenith is something that I wish all kites have it .... As for a beginner like me that is a huge help to be able concentrate you attention on getting you self in buggy or snowboard when kite is nicely sitting at zenith ....

thanks for all that info provided on this post .....

Kober

AWESOME info page about PL arcs.......

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/mx5alan/arcs/ARCsetup_FAQ.htm

I like how you can do the peanutbutter jelly time dance with no hands on the bar while the Arc is at zenith. Even with inland gusts.

I hate when the kite acts flakey on launch without a complete prefill. Solution: Get a leafblower.
I don't like re-launching at all. Solution: Don't crash.

Only tried a PL Arc (synergy) once, and it wasn't really my cup of tea.

I can see why people like them. They certainly do have some nice features (auto-zenith). I just didn't care for the way it felt when I was riding.

Unfortunately, I do not really have the time to give one a good try. Partly a matter of not waiting to spend time I *COULD* be riding, messing around with another kite (don't get enough opportunities to ride as it is these days). Maybe, someday, I'll give one another shot...

I love stopping to help a non-Arc user with a tangle or a relaunch while my Arc just hovers there behind my back. I'm just being charitable, but it drives them nuts. :-)

As for inflation problems I learned a very effective inflation trick from a master. Inflate your arc as best as the wind will do. Zip it shut and then squeeze it tight at the zipper from front to rear and left to right 'til the skin pulls tight. Let go, unzip that slack spot you just created, and hold the zip open to top off in the wind. The kite will top off quickly. Zip shut and launch.

Works great on Scorps in marginal conditions.

I sure need to go flying again!

Philip

Nav bar is good for re-ride. Check out from about 7:20 here ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs8ODOHQDCQ
I'd still like a push-away CL though - I tend to hold onto the red knob too tight and as the bar goes shooting away, the bungy breaks and I'm left holding the red knob in my hand :o

Love :
No pumping.
Stability.
Smallness/lightness when packed.

Hate :
Not a parS-P-A-M-L-I-N-K-n'ride kite.
Setup/launch/landing is troublesome at a small site with LEI kite users.
I'm the only user for miles around

easy set up and launch
stable and flies well in gusts
auto zenith if you need a drink, lunch, bathroom break

not the best choice in lower winds
relaunch can be tricky if auto zenith has been a crutch
lighter winds kite feels a bit mushy

all said great kites that will last for ages..............inland pilots or gusty winds need these in the quiv

Phillip, did you see your photo on the Peter Lynn website?

I did, thanks for the feature. It was a nice write up for JIBE.

I was hoping you would like it. Good shot of the phantom/buggy

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Originally posted by flyjump Phillip, did you see your photo on the Peter Lynn website?

LInky? Can't stumble on to it.

here's the link bob.......

http://peterlynn.com/jibe-jeckyll-island-buggy-expo/

What about speed? Phantom 6 has very good speed too.

:evil: Ziggy :dunno:

Most of them have good speed IMO.

F-Arcs, OMG freakin fast. But all the others haul the mail just fine. Depends on the wind obviously but the d-pow range of the arcs really allows riding in some pretty stout wind on some pretty good size wings.