I would hardly think that someones opinion about something they have actually tried is misinformation, I stand by all my statements. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one that notices the issues. Have you even flown a smaller sized peak 2 Feyd? Well Its generally not a good idea to give an opinion about something you never used. Pilot error huh, that's a good one and very laughable. so I guess next we will be presented with a video showing a 12m without the tip tuck. I guess that would prove that those who had the issues just didn't know wht they were doing. :P

Haha, has feyd flown a 4 meter? That's a good one. You must not know much about Feyd's experience.

Here is one review amoung many he has done

http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=29766

Well That's great but his review of the ozone access and peak 2 basically confirms my statements the kite is finicky compared to the most of the reputable branded kites we have out now, along with that I'm sure all the issues about the kite were not listed due to certain reason I wont go into. My goal is not to criticize the kite just for the hell of it but to bring out the issues so that hopefully flysurfer can make it better like I said before I'm all for new technology but if it dosent improve on what we already have I don't see the benefit of it.

I'm quoting from his own words in his review :

("After about an hour and a half of riding various sections of the lake Paul and I landed in a wind shadow and swapped kites.

I took off on the Peak 2 and after riding the Access it was a stark difference in how it felt and handled. The bar pressure was considerably higher than the Ozone. The 4m Peak had a bit more power than the 6m Access and the delivery of that power could be smooth or abrupt depending on how you sheeted in. The Peak 2 is not nearly the friendly cruiser the Access is but it is a lot of fun to fly. The nice thing, about the Peak is that even with the higher power you can still ride with little to no worry of getting lofted or yarded. But it is definitely more work to fly than the Access.

After about another half hour or so Paul and I met up to compare notes. Like myself, he was amazed at the stability of the Access. While he was playing on the Peak, at times fighting with it, he noticed how easily I was cruising around and how stabile the Access was. After taking it for a ride he understood why. ")


Like I said in my original review of the kite the issues I encountered were, a small windrange, heavy bar pressure, an on and off power delivery, loosing some power in turns and loops, not very stable in gusty winds , tip tucking in lighter winds when depowered. The things I liked were the near 100% depower and small packing size and the slight increase in power per size. I think his review confirmed most of the things I originally stated. so I don't knw why I would be quoted as putting out misinformation.
with that being said I think ill refrain from talking about the peak and let others try it and give there opinion as I see we have a little bit of a flysurfer fan club going. :o

If people think the brake lines are too tight, look at this frame capture. Tell me again the brake lines are too tight. The kite only moves little forward, and the brake lines has very visible slack. But again, will retry at some point with lighter brake lines.

@povlhp - I don't think the brake lines are too tight. Rather, as you mentioned, I think the brake lines are too HEAVY. It would appear from the videos that you were dealing with light winds. Strong enough to launch a feather weight single skin like the 1.5 Uniq but not enough to really power it. I used to own (and promptly sold) the 4.5m Uniq. I wanted it as a buggy engine and didn't feel it was suited for this purpose. Too small a wind window. Not as small as the one in your video, but notably smaller than a kite I could compare it to at the time on the same day, a PL 4.0m Hornet.

I suspect the 1.5m Uniq is so small as to be overburdened with its lines, essentially stalling the kite as they pull the kite down from the sky due to gravity. Your idea of light weight lines might work and I wish you the best of luck with that. However, I fear you may be heading for a re-sale at a loss with this kite as I was.

As you are over in Denmark I might suggest you take a look at Born-Kite out of Germany. http://www.born-kite.de/

The NASA Star-3 single skin kites are WONDERFUL. Check out my auto signature and you'll see that I own one or two. The Uniq doesn't hold a candle to Born kites.

Povl, I could tell in your last video that your brake lines were not too tight, so that is not the issue. You might send peter lynn a message and see what they recommend.

Gemini, everyone is entitled to their opinion but a lot of us have been flying the peak for awhile now and have a pretty good understanding of it's flight characteristics. You said you had only flown it once? not sure about that but if that's true, then that's not enough time to judge a kite compared to everyone else that have hundred's of hours on them.

Peaks are certainly unique beasts unto themselves, that's for sure. I own four of them and have over time come to really appreciate them a lot. Yes, I deal from time to time with the dreaded "tip tuck". I found that putting the outside lines on the knot farthest from the handle (under the foam pads) seems to be the best setting for me. I rarely get tip tuck anymore, and if I do a couple of pumps of the bar or some back and forth mini turns tends to pop the kite back out to full shape. I've had a lot of hours in a buggy with the full range of Peak-2s at this point and can say, at least in my hands, that tip tuck generally tends to happen either when the kite is grossly overpowered or when pilot error (i.e., me) goofs and lets the kite lines go slack.

While I've not spent any real time with other DP kites from what I've read on PKF the Peak is just a different flyer than "traditional" DPs and takes a specific flying style to get out of it what the kite is capable of. Now that I've got that down they seem to fly beautifully.

It seems a shame for us as a kite-loving family to sink down into a pissing match over contrasting kite designs. I for one don't want to head in that direction. I look forward to seeing how the various kite companies innovate, and hopefully continue to improve, over time. Reading through the lines I suspect PL will come out with a single skin DP at some point. FS will probably have a Peak-3, and Born-Kite has the fabled Ultra-Star in the works. I'm not going to take the time now to find it, but I've seen some other single-skin DPs out there in development as well. Exciting times for us single-skin fanatics! :D

Wow, just like that! "Tip Tuck" on a non-Peak kite. Who'd ah thunk it? :evil:

http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=30937