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Great thanks to Colin for the original posting and to Crazy Herb for the suggestion of gentle chewing and saliva. Yesterday I worked a simple overhand knot out of one of my center lines on a Flysurfer Peak2 setup and flew the kite afterwards with no incidents. The knot was like a little pebble at first. VERY light chewing, re-soaked it several times with my saliva and worked it out with my fingernails (which are pretty blunt and soft compared to a lot of people's). The little bugger put up an initial fight but then succumbed to my urging and opened up! I could most certainly tell where the knot had been when inspecting the line (it looked sort of buffed up for about and inch or so).

The little bugger turned out to be on the 5th safety line between the bar and where the line splices back into one of the front lines. I didn't discover that until after the knot was loosened (I had assumed it was on one of the front lines). That probably means it wasn't under a great deal of tension much of the time, but by the time I had loosed it I wanted the little bugger out of there. It isn't possible to run the safety line out through the chicken loop and swivel because it is larks knotted to a little metal ring after it passes through the swivel. It took a little creativity, but I figured out that by detaching that side's power line at both ends that I was able to feed the entire power line/safety line combo through the knot and undue it. Yay!

Good luck to others suffering from similar miladies! :o

Dude. I really think that knot is supposed to be there, from Flysurfer. Like you said, it's on the 4.5 line that isn't tensioned. I think the purpose is to keep the bar from flying all the way up to the kite and creating a tangled mess and danger. I know I didn't put any knots in those lines before I sold it to you. Heck, I only ever disconnected the lines once. I think you might wanna take a second look.

Also, I would never leave a knot in a depower kite line. Trainer isn't AS big of a deal IMO.

Proletariat - doh! You may be right about the knot. BTW you didn't end up selling me your kite. We did engage but then you sold to somebody else. I ended up buying one of Chris' demo kites from his Hardwater school.

It would be pretty straightforward to put that knot back in place.

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I don't know about the Flysurfer bar system, but most if not all bars have a knot/stopper to stop the bar from flying up to the kite. Also if you had to remove / feed through any lines to remove the knot, then the same must have been done when the knot was made...

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Proletariat - doh! You may be right about the knot. BTW you didn't end up selling me your kite. We did engage but then you sold to somebody else. I ended up buying one of Chris' demo kites from his Hardwater school. It would be pretty straightforward to put that knot back in place.

Oh. Well then that jerk you bought it from probably put a knot into it out of spite and malice . I'm glad you like the P2. I miss my P1, but not that bar.

For what it is worth, my own brand spankin' new Peak 12 meter had a knot in one of my own flying lines....straight from Flysurfer.

So sometimes they aren't from prior owner or from a bad pack job. If you don't run each line occasionally they can be easy to miss depending where it is.


Chewing works and so too does very patient fingers with very careful use of an awl or a tooth pick (never used the hammer but heard good things

Some knots too are critical to keep stuff in place :o

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Dude. I really think that knot is supposed to be there, from Flysurfer. Like you said, it's on the 4.5 line that isn't tensioned. I think the purpose is to keep the bar from flying all the way up to the kite and creating a tangled mess and danger.

As Proletariat correctly surmised the Peak 2 knot is supposed to be there. I got a second P2 today and sure enough the same knot was there in the same place. I put the knot back in place where it was on my original kite. All is good in Smallville.