What kind of winds do u use a freaking 19m for, that huge!

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Originally posted by xsv21 K I won't put on a strop then, it's cool I got everything I need them, haha I'll put up some pics and vids from my first time

So please tell us what you ended up with !

Welcome to the sport. Keep it safe and you will have a TON of fun.

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I'm thinking of buying a 5.5 handle with kite killers

a 19m depower or arc really isn't as powerful as it sounds. they don't grab air until you want it to, it's like having a throttle. A fixed bridle foil is full power all the time, you control the power by adjusting kite size to suit the wind, that and where you put it in the window. you cannot compare depower to foil. When I can't hold down a 5m, a depower flyer might be able to fly15m or bigger. But when they can't get it up, I'm buggying all over the place. Trust us, you will have so many kites your girl will get mad and jealeous. I can hear it now" all you do is go kite flying,I wish you spent as much time w/ me!" and so on and so on.

A 5.5 what?

Well you can have a closet full of fixed bridal kites or 2 or 3 depowers

5.5m kite, with handles

Yeah, and I love to fly all of them. I will buy more too, and sell none. when they won't fly anymore ,they will be stapled to the garage wall or hung from ceiling of Fab shop.

there are 5.5m that are for buggying( low lift), there are 5.5 for getting lofted( high lift) ,then there is this other catagory called racekites(racing). And this is just fixed bridle foils. They are all different and all fly differently. If you get a 5.5 fixed bridle kite , I bet you a dollar to a doughnut, you get hurt in 1 month.

Yup. I prematurely bought the Venom 19 figuring it'd be a good couple seasons before I flew it and lo and behold it became my most flown kite all winter last year, second was the 15m Phantom. Once you get the bug you'll have a good collection.

Amazing zen-like things happen when you start moving under the power of these things. Search on here for axomoxioxmiaoxa (or something like that. For me it's an astonishing peace that comes only by the contrast offered by shifting the aggressive pull of these things (even a 3m) into moving with the wind. It's because it's so amazing that I have done what I could to make sure I had a kite for any wind speed - so I never miss an opportunity to have that one on one time with Mother Nature.

See I would bet no one gets it till they try it, I can't wait to get mine

Right you are. People still think I'm on crack when I get so excited talking to them about "flying kites". They have no idea

Ik!!! I was looking at kite on a computer in school, ppl think I'm a kid, until I show them a video or explain it, then they think it's awesome

Hi all,

Sorry I saw this 'post chain' a bit too late

xsv21 is in contact with me to buy my Helium I 5.5. The deal is not sealed yet since price for shipping etc was still pending. He mentioned that he has some experience with kites and is looking into snowkiting. He mentioned also that he has very light winds in his area and after some considerations he would like to go with a handle kite. Based on those information (but without seeing his posts here) I told him to be really careful with the Helium. The Helium is a great beginner kite, super stable, BUT with a lot of pull. I recommend this kite for LIGHT wind ONLY and that he should go unhooked with kite killers which I add to the kite.

Myself I started with a small Beamer and a GIN Joz in a similar size as the Helium. Needless to say that I had (and still have) a lot of respect for the wind, so I had a lot of fun with it.

I'm kiting with a group of great people and we all try to give best advise especially to beginners to keep them safe, ensure they have fun from the beginning, and to keep our rare kiting spots open! I think we all feel the same so I would like to be really transparent here. Now having more information about xsv21 I'm not sure anymore if my Helium is the right size for him.

xsv21 - as I mentioned in my email where I asked you for your experience, I do not want to offend you in any way and please take this as an advise from people who really care about other kiters and the kiting sport. You may want to reconsider and think about a smaller size kite to start with. I would have loved to sell you my 3 meter Buster - but this kite is now enjoying Canada

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Originally posted by xsv21 5.5m kite, with handles

Yeah... Thanks for asking for advice. and then completely ignoring it.

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Originally posted by f0rgiv3n Quote: Originally posted by xsv21 5.5m kite, with handles Yeah... Thanks for asking for advice. and then completely ignoring it.

Technically he didn't. He changed both his first post and the title of the thread. He originally asked for something else, not for advice

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Originally posted by Maven454 Quote: Originally posted by f0rgiv3n Quote: Originally posted by xsv21 5.5m kite, with handles Yeah... Thanks for asking for advice. and then completely ignoring it. Technically he didn't. He changed both his first post and the title of the thread. He originally asked for something else, not for advice

now you're just bein' silly. :wee:
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Sorry if it sounded rude but I was a bit frustrated. I see someone come in asking for advice (title shows asking for advice) and we give them advice so they will learn the correct way and not get hurt but they completely disregard it. I get frustrated sometimes. Again, sorry about coming across so blunt like that.

I hve taken plenty of advice from going away from depower, bars, and I was looking at 7 to 9m kites, I chose a smaller kite and one with handles

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Originally posted by f0rgiv3n Quote: Originally posted by Maven454 Quote: Originally posted by f0rgiv3n Quote: Originally posted by xsv21 5.5m kite, with handles Yeah... Thanks for asking for advice. and then completely ignoring it. Technically he didn't. He changed both his first post and the title of the thread. He originally asked for something else, not for advice now you're just bein' silly. :wee: Edit: Sorry if it sounded rude but I was a bit frustrated. I see someone come in asking for advice (title shows asking for advice) and we give them advice so they will learn the correct way and not get hurt but they completely disregard it. I get frustrated sometimes. Again, sorry about coming across so blunt like that.

Shrug. No worries. I was actually being serious. He really did edit the original post.

I hve taken plenty of advice from going away from depower, bars, and I was looking at 7 to 9m kites, I chose a smaller kite and one with handles

I give up :duh:

I did change it

but you are not listening, a 5m FB kite,will propel me and my buggy to damn near highway speed. That is alot of power. You are not gonna learn alot like that. But ,It's your femur,if you really wanna see what it looks like , go ahead and get a traction engine for your first powerkite. They don't call it a power kite for nuthin'. That 5.5 century that I just bought from Todd is a racing kite.( if somehow you could have convinced him that you were experienced enough for it) you would have been hurt . If you don't have a buggy ,you really have no need for a racekite. You would be trying to static fly ,and it would just zoom right out of the window and tangle up. That kite is designed to be used w/ a buggy . it is meant to travel not fly static. But you had no idea what kind of kite it was. You just saw it was 5.5m. You say you wanna snokite, well your gonna need a decent kite for that. And your gonna need decent set of skills to go w/ it.
You need a 3m beamer, learn to fly , gain some respect for the wind and the people who have learned to respect it(sometimes the hard way). Meanwhile save up some cash, and talk to the fine folks here or wherever. And get you a nice rig, used if need be.
Is there anyone in your area that kites? If you could get up w/ someone and start getting some hands on exp.. I think once you get snatched one good time you'll see what all the huff is about. Iwish you lived around here, I'd take you down to the beach.Give you a 4.7 rage in a15 mph wind . and watch you plow a ditch w/ your face, butt,knees, sometimes your feet. Do you even get the concept of how BIG a 5m kite is? My pansh sprint 5.0 is 11 ft long. It an 11 ft long wing , flying through the air ,taking you w/ it.
As far as your wind speed ,do you really know the average windspeed in your area? I bet it blows harder than you think.

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Originally posted by WELDNGOD a 5m FB kite,will propel me and my buggy to damn near highway speed.

I was clocked at 52 mph on my 2.5 JOJO ET Instinct on skis on snow. I'm sure he'll be fine with a 5.5

Time to walk away from this one folks...

... editing your threads is just bad form, old chap leave it open and unedited so that even if you're wrong, you've changed your mind etc we can all learn from it, as it were ...

To quote beamerbob from an old thread previously showing what happens when new people don't follow advice:
"The guy who bought my ace broke his leg really bad that afternoon by not listening to all the advice I gave him."

Bob... wasn't that a 5m?

K, sorry for beating the dead horse.

I'm w/ Todd on this now.:ticking: